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Adieu my friends, i bid you all farewell, My name was Endogene

My name is Endogène,

 I'm the 6th most important contributor to GiantBomb.com out of a total of 42985 members with a total of 57329 points that i got on 3523 different pages. I joined the site July 21, 2008, the day the site was launched. Including this final blog post i will have posted 3858 comments on the site. I am in the top 10 poster rank of both the "delete and combine" forum and the "editing and tools" forum. After I was chosen to become a moderator I moderated over 6000 submissions and posted  232 times in the "moderation hangout" placing 3rd on the top poster list. Today i turn my back to this all.

I've genuinely enjoyed the countless hours I've spend on Giant Bomb. I loved helping out others, I loved adding information for others to see, I loved all the silliness of the forums and the great personalities that visit them yet i do no longer want this all.


My name is Endogène


When i first visited the forums things where wild, uncertain, nothing was decided, no rules existed same was for the Wiki part of the site, the one promoted to be the big feature of GiantBomb that was buried under submissions that moderators who were chosen out of those who had the most points in the early hours that the site launched. I've got the my first real attention by defending non censured images from adult games, most notably Bible Black. I've spend days saying that if the site wants to be a encyclopedia it should allow everything without exception be it offending or not while being yelled at and called names by others before finally a staff member came out with a small message saying that it was an okay thing to do. I then gained some more popularity helping others out with wiki related questions and moving data over from duplicate pages. It was great being a meaningful part of something constructive on such a big scale.
Once i had hit 5000 points i started adding new pages to the site at alarming speeds so that users who did not already had 5K points whould have pages that they could work on without having to wait on moderation. I continued working on the wiki to a point that i reached the top 100 that was crowded with people who gamed the system be it by bugs or willingly. I was proud, my name on that page meant that i had helped others out.
As i continued working on wiki pages my rank as my "notoriety" climbed, I was never afraid to defend what i believe in and and take on  the things I oppose. I've often got into conflict with other users due to this, however I am proud of the amount of self control and objectivity i've shown during these arguments and that I have never verbally disrespected others. 
During my stay on GiantBomb I've done my best promoting games that needed attention by either posting about them or filling in their wiki articles as good as i could, I was always proud and happy once i was done making a wiki page for a game yet sad at the same time since i knew that if i did not do it nobody would...
After some months I as well as another two users were added to the moderation team, two wiki mods, one forum mod. I delved into the submission queue checking everyone of the for plagiarism and correcting them if needed, i would always leave a detailed comment for the users explaining when i would deny a submission explaing how they should do it next time. At the end all my effort was for nothing, the reply function of the moderation queue was broken since the site launched, nobody told me... I was upset.


My name is Endogène

I am tired, tired of seeing so much of everyone their effort being wasted. GiantBomb is supposed to be a community site, yet it's founders neglect it all together. How is a community supposed to prosper if it's founders do not support it? It pains me to see users troubled with the site, asking it's creators directly for change, proposing ideas be they hard or simple to implement and seeing no word what so ever from these founders to a point that the mods have to come over and to say the GiantBomb team is but small and can't take care of everything. I agreed with those who said that when the site was created but seeing the same issue still exist now that the site has almost hit its one year mark makes it hard for me to believe that they even care. GiantBomb's business model seems to be to pump out as many different features as possible that will lure new users in but by doing this they are neglecting what their core, the people who invest their personal time in making the site what it is want. The never ending trivia and the achievement feature might be nice but there are so many things that actually matter that need to be done.
After I had become a moderator I've done nothing but try and make the founders realize the things that were absolutely needed being fixed, added, clarified all in vain. Never did the founders even answered my request even when supported by the other moderators, the only time i had contact with one of them is when i started doing what they had always neglected out of my own, delete duplicate page. I used the tool that allowed us moderators to rename game pages to change duplicate games into games that were not yet added to the database. I got a message asking what i was doing and after explaining how i was "deleting" pages I was told that it was okay to do. Afterwards i discussed it with the other mods and we stumbled upon some cases where this method might break the site. I messaged the founder again asking if i still had green light  ot use this method despite the risky pages, i never got an answer and thus found myself uncertain if i could continue or not, I had no choice then stop. With pain I would see the list of pages that needed to be deleted more and more. As time passes more issues rise, the community discusses them, proposes solutions, no answer, nothing happens... Do the founders live in a tower so high above ground that they do only see clouds under them and not those below struggling?


My name is Endogène

No longer will I stay here, no longer will i accept this behavior towards those who support you. I hope that I will be the only one who has to leave for you to understand that they way you are neglecting your core is unacceptable. I hope that you will see reason and that GiantBomb will become what it is supposed to be, a community site!


For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows
And did it my way!


My name was Endogène!

Mirror: http://lastwordsbyendogene.blogspot.com/


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WTF!!   What the heck is he crying about?

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dude make me a mod now!

No but seriously, does anyone else see the topic creator (I forget his name) as a bit selfish? From what I gather this chap is basically leaving because he says the staff aren't doing what he wants. Isn't that because they're too busy doing what everyone else wants? I want Quick Looks. I want Endurance Run to continue despite technical difficulty. I want a fast, streamlined site. Maybe they can't bow to his every wish because they're appealing to people like me, the average user, as that makes up the majority of the site at the moment. And as snide said, there's only 4 people. Count em. Four. Quattro. Yon. They can't do everything at once. Maybe this has been said before, and either way I don't want to stir up a whole bunch of trouble and get people annoyed at me, but this is how I saw it.
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@Joe said:
" @Stang:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm "
How somebody would deduce sarcasm from that post is beyond me. It came off as desperation. Sorry, I lost my omniscient abilities last week.
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sad to see ya go,keep blazin that endo

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@Stang said:
" @Joe said:
" @Stang:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm "
How somebody would deduce sarcasm from that post is beyond me. It came off as desperation. Sorry, I lost my omniscient abilities last week. "
Well, it was a direct reply to Hamz, and Hamz definitely knew it was sarcasm. Nobody really asked you to deduce whether it was sarcastic or not. :S
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And yae it was that the Endogene did not get the recognition he expected from contributing to wiki articles.  And yonder he did go to take a nap and come back after he realizes that no one ever gets that sort of recognition unless they themselves run the site.

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Being a bit dramatic aren't we?

Anyway, I wish you the best in everything you do.

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*sigh*  So I guess the honeymoon period is over?  Shame.

As much as I hate to agree with Milkman; I agree with Milkman.

I think it's abundantly clear from the tone of his post, that his contribution - as valuable as it may have been - was as much about stroking his own ego as actually improving the site.  If you care about a site and the guys running it, you don't spit your dummy in public and then attack the staff on the way out the door, just because you aren't getting the attention you crave.

The wiki has never been the main draw of this site and we all know it.  The Wiki may be what ties it neatly into WM's structure, but first and foremost GB is a vehicle for Jeff and his posse.  If they choose creating content over dealing with the minutiae of the Wiki, then I'm glad, that's absolutely the correct decision.

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goodbye, and Go with God.

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@Stang said:
" @Joe said:
" @Hamz: But I want to be a mod!!!!!!!! It means more to me than anything in life "
If that is true, I will say a prayer for you.editI made a rhyme! "
Brilliant
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Damn Endogene, I never knew you but I wish I did after reading this. It's not everday I can say I know a dude from the internets who is in the top 10 poster rank of both the "delete and combine" forum and the "editing and tools" forum; not to mention he has posted 3858 comments on the site, 232 of which were in the moderators hangout (placing him 3rd in the top posters list).

How could you turn your back to all of that serious business.
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Man, that sucks. I do agree that the founders of this great site don't even seem to acknowledge our existence.

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@Binman88 said:
" Damn Endogene, I never knew you but I wish I did after reading this. It's not everday I can say I know a dude from the internets who is in the top 10 poster rank of both the "delete and combine" forum and the "editing and tools" forum; not to mention he has posted 3858 comments on the site, 232 of which were in the moderators hangout (placing him 3rd in the top posters list).How could you turn your back to all of that serious business. "
You know, I thank that sums this whole thing up better than anything else.
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lol @ emotional blackmail

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You have a point... but does this mean your leaving Giantbomb for good? Or just abolishing your moderator position.
Because if you leave the site for good, I think that's taking it a wee bit far...

Anyways, Au Revoir.

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Hit the road jack, and don't you look back no more, no more, no more, no more, hit the road jack and don't you look back no more!

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@Binman88 said:
" Damn Endogene, I never knew you but I wish I did after reading this. It's not everday I can say I know a dude from the internets who is in the top 10 poster rank of both the "delete and combine" forum and the "editing and tools" forum; not to mention he has posted 3858 comments on the site, 232 of which were in the moderators hangout (placing him 3rd in the top posters list).How could you turn your back to all of that serious business. "

KABOOM!
KABOOM!

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@MB: Is there is one, give it to StarFoxA. He deserves it.
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 Why does it seem like all the mods are leaving?

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:_(            Have fun with life.  :-)

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@ParanoidFreak said:
"  Why does it seem like all the mods are leaving? "
Because we're too awesome for them.
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@Meltbrain said:
" @Milkman said:
" Wow, that's a lot of message in my inbox. I guess people really like this dude. Well, I'll just say one more thing:

@Rhaknar said:
" the TC might even have a point, and his reasons may be valid, but that whole "my name is endogene" thing was honestly one of the most ridiculous things ive ever read, its hard to take him seriously when he does that "
Pretty much this. I would no problem with this guy coming here and expressing his opinion but when he ends every three sentences with "My name is Endogene" and acts like he's some sort of Giant Bomb superhero, then this just gets stupid. I really have no interest in this dude and I doubt I would have even noticed that he's gone. Call me ungrateful but at the end of the day guys, it's a video game website....Obviously, this site is a lot more important to some other people than it is to me. I come here for the commentary of the guys who actually work here not for Endogene. "
I kinda have to agree. Endogene has done some good stuff, but the way this blog was written is pretty... daft. "
I'm going to stack another agreement onto this.
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I really don't know what to think after reading his post and all the comments that followed. I have always thought of Endogene as a cool dude who made some serious contributions to the site, and I feel that he may be taking it too far by leaving like this. Actually, he is. I don't agree with what he is doing, and there may be some problems on the site but, overall, this is a one of a kind website that has so many pros that outweigh the cons that leaving seems a bit dramatic. No matter what, however, I will miss you and we all will, even if some have had a different outlook on your personality and demeanor with this final post.

First BoG now Endo...it's sad to see some moderators go.

Oh, and thanks for Snide for replying on this thread, and, I know it is not a concern right now, but I nominate StarFoxA for Wiki Mod position if it is open ;)

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@Meltbrain said:
" @Milkman said:
" Wow, that's a lot of message in my inbox. I guess people really like this dude. Well, I'll just say one more thing:

@Rhaknar said:
" the TC might even have a point, and his reasons may be valid, but that whole "my name is endogene" thing was honestly one of the most ridiculous things ive ever read, its hard to take him seriously when he does that "
Pretty much this. I would no problem with this guy coming here and expressing his opinion but when he ends every three sentences with "My name is Endogene" and acts like he's some sort of Giant Bomb superhero, then this just gets stupid. I really have no interest in this dude and I doubt I would have even noticed that he's gone. Call me ungrateful but at the end of the day guys, it's a video game website....Obviously, this site is a lot more important to some other people than it is to me. I come here for the commentary of the guys who actually work here not for Endogene. "
I kinda have to agree. Endogene has done some good stuff, but the way this blog was written is pretty... daft. "
word

btw, my name is Stephen Von Cloud
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@AndrewGaspar said:
" @Gunner said:
" Sometimes i feel as if giantbomb is run by nothing but meme's and the endurance run... "
/me begins to speak up to contradict.../me walks away. He's already lost the argument. "
This=LIFE.
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Endogene...you deleted one of my threads. -_-

See you anyway.

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Thanks for that mountain of self-important melodramatic garbage, Endogene.  You want some cheese with that whine?

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What does the mighty Fr0Br0 have to say about this tragedy? He says it is a tragedy. As his voice booms down from the heavens and echo off the mountains. Past foreign lands and through foreign ears. May the world have to hear what a god has to say. And the god say it is a tragedy. Oh, and what a tragedy it is. May my worshipers take the side of the mighty Fr0Br0 and may they pray for the health of Wiki. When what he says is a tragedy that has covered the Giant Bomb forums. NAY! not just the forums, but the entire website. I will attempt to smite any abusers that dare attempt to molest the purest members of the site. For when those poor ones turn around, I will be there. And they will know thy name was Fr0Br0 as I strike down upon them from the heavens with a force even greater than lightening. AND THY WILL KNOW, HIS NAME WAS FR0BR0! And may he have pity on their poor souls as they travel through the burrows of damnation and through the fire and the pain of a thousand deaths. For no sorrow shall come across against those souls as it has for the mighty Endogene. From one god to another, may a thousand weeps fall across your grave.

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I think some of you are being a little harsh. Endogene was a funny guy and a great contributer. Just because he posted one overly dramatic blog doesn't mean all that should be forgotten.

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K, I'll bite. 

Quit crying, while you were a great contributor, it's not as if there is nobody to replace you. 

Far too dramatic, had you cut it short maybe I would not have viewed is a giant bitching, and I might even have cared about what you were saying.

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@RsistncE said:
" Apparently one of my posts has also been deleted."
yay

Did you ever think that it was deleted for a REASON before posting it again? Gosh you are irritating...
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@crunchUK: Really? There's more sarcastic posts in this thread with just as snarky of a tone as my post than I could count on a set of 10 hands. The guy who posted it was melodramatic and made himself look like a douche. Fact. Therefore people are replying with the appropriate and measured response. Seems to me someone wants Giantbomb to turn into a giant drama like all the other shitty game forums out there. Sorry that's not why I'm on Giantbomb and I'm sure most of the users here would say the same thing.
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Bye! doors over there by the way. ---->

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@RsistncE said:
" @crunchUK: Really? There's more sarcastic posts in this thread with just as snarky of a tone as my post than I could count on a set of 10 hands. The guy who posted it was melodramatic and made himself look like a douche. Fact. Therefore people are replying with the appropriate and measured response. Seems to me someone wants Giantbomb to turn into a giant drama like all the other shitty game forums out there. Sorry that's not why I'm on Giantbomb and I'm sure most of the users here would say the same thing. "
Fact: Your post got deleted, you reposted it like a twat, so go cry to a mod if you disagree
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@MB said:
" @Commando said:
" @MB:
I'll do it! But I doubt I'll get it since I have so few points, but I'm pretty sure you know I won't abuse it.
"
I accept major credit cards through PayPal. But seriously, wiki mod is a thankless position that only the most dedicated editors should even consider applying for. If we decide there is a need, that is. It's kind of a group decision, the wiki mods will really need to band together and decide if they need the extra help or not. "
I'd be willing to help. Up until the end of August, I should be available all day. Then past September, I'll be available every night.
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Suddenly...

BAM! KNIFE FIGHT!
BAM! KNIFE FIGHT!

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@RsistncE said:
" @crunchUK: Really? There's more sarcastic posts in this thread with just as snarky of a tone as my post than I could count on a set of 10 hands. The guy who posted it was melodramatic and made himself look like a douche. Opinion. Therefore people are replying with the typical uppity "mature" response of someone who ignores content and only focuses on tone. Seems to me someone wants Giantbomb to turn into a giant drama like all the other shitty game forums out there. Sorry that's not why I'm on Giantbomb and I'm sure most of the users here would say the same thing. "
Fixed. 

Try reading what he actually wrote instead of focusing on his (I'm guessing half-sarcastic, if I know Endogene) over-the-top stuff. He makes points that nobody should be ignoring simply because they find it more fulfilling to post their "stop whining, crybaby" 2c in.
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@Jayge: Seems to me like you guys just can't deal with most people pointing out the FACT that his post was melodramatic and made him looks stupid. That's unfortunate.
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@RsistncE:
That's not a fact that's an opinion based on how one would view his post.
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@RsistncE said:
" @Jayge: Seems to me like you guys just can't deal with most people pointing out the FACT that his post was melodramatic and made him looks stupid. That's unfortunate. "
Either you're that stupid, or you're just that bad of a troll :-/
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after re-reading that wall of text, my opinion on this matter has changed and all I can think is " get the fuck over yourself endogene"  yes you did some great things, yes GB is a great website, no it isn't perfect, GET OVER IT and enjoy it or don't. but don't make such a big deal about it

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you are the worst

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@Xeno said:
" you are the worst "
me?
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I just LOVE how this shit is still going on. Guess the Giant Bomb community really is as shitty as every other video game website community.

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I'm going to lock this down now.

I think everyone has said what really needs to be said and it seems the discussion is taking a turn for the worse. If you want to say your goodbyes to Endogene then do so via his Wall or send him a PM. Let us not start bickering at each other because one person has decided to throw in the towel on his moderator duties and the site as a whole.

Locked.