@S0ndor said:

@Toms115 said:

@S0ndor said:

@Toms115 said:

@S0ndor said:

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

no, people who sell things would just lower prices to the point where buying second-hand would be effectively useless.

Yes, because everyone will magically agree to work for 5% of their former wages and people will be handing out free oil and metal like candy.    

if that situation actually took place (everyone buying second hand) they wouldn't have much of a choice. read before you double post me.

Which is why that could and should never happen, which was my original point. Jesus, I can't get over how flawed your logic is. I'm done with this shit.

you understand the concept of a hypothetical situation, right?

@Toms115 said:

@S0ndor said:

@Toms115 said:

@S0ndor said:

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

no, people who sell things would just lower prices to the point where buying second-hand would be effectively useless.

Yes, because everyone will magically agree to work for 5% of their former wages and people will be handing out free oil and metal like candy.    

if that situation actually took place (everyone buying second hand) they wouldn't have much of a choice. read before you double post me.

Which is why that could and should never happen, which was my original point. Jesus, I can't get over how flawed your logic is. I'm done with this shit.

I like buying full price games and potentially selling them (not trading in) when i'm done with them, I feel as if the less you payed for a game the less you may care.
Heres an example everybody.

Oh hey! gamestop is having a b2g1 sale!
*Buys 8 games averaging for around five dollars a pop*
Never finished any of them because they are old games, long, and I have newer games to play.

Basically I have a huge collection filled with games I got for cheap but never played, sometimes feel like I have a bad habit buying L.A Noire and metro (Which I am playing and enjoying both, plan to finish soon)  then stalking cheapassgamer for more cheap game deals.

Got a damn huge backlog, don't listen to this guy.
If you have the money and want the games, support the developers and enjoy new games, however going the way of playing eight games for the same price if money is a real tight object for you can also do you very well, just having so many games to play will distract you and cause disinterest in all of them.

Haha, wow. I created a monster.

For the record: I also pay full price, so I guess that makes me an idiot. But when I was calling 'you' an idiot I was calling out anyone that complains about the price of new releases, yet continues to drop the full price on said games, as if they have to.

FUCK YES BROTHER! Here's a list of game companies I want to go out of business:

@S0ndor said:

@Toms115 said:

@S0ndor said:

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

no, people who sell things would just lower prices to the point where buying second-hand would be effectively useless.

Yes, because everyone will magically agree to work for 5% of their former wages and people will be handing out free oil and metal like candy.    

if that situation actually took place (everyone buying second hand) they wouldn't have much of a choice. read before you double post me.

@Toms115 said:

@S0ndor said:

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

no, people who sell things would just lower prices to the point where buying second-hand would be effectively useless.

Yes, because everyone will magically agree to work for 5% of their former wages and people will be handing out free oil and metal like candy.    

@S0ndor said:

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

no, people who sell things would just lower prices to the point where buying second-hand would be effectively useless.

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo: yeah i mean crazy me not wanting to be completely ripped off!

No, crazy you for thinking that you are being ripped off.Sure, I felt ripped of when I paid £40 for Brink because it was the biggest piece of crap I have ever played, however the amount of time and effort that goes into many games leaves me feeling that my spending was justly.

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

no game is worth £40. i also condone waiting a while (a few years is a bit much) and getting games cheaper.

If you think no game is worth £40 then you have a warped sense of value...

if you willingly pay £40 for something that should and could be much less, then you too have a warped sense of value.?

If something gives me hours of entertainment for the price of a single person at a decent meal out, then what is the problem?£40 is not a lot of money for the amount of entertainment you receive from a good game.

books and movies give me hours of entertainment but i rarely spend more than £10 on those.

Amazon>Half.com>Ebay

But yeah, I don't really think you can brag about saving money by buying a game ~4 years after it came out.

I think the bigger idiot is buying PGR4 4 years after its release.

@SuperSambo: yeah i mean crazy me not wanting to be completely ripped off!

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

You don't need eBay to do that. Plus, not buying games at full price will hurt us all in the long run.

If everyone bought second-hand people would stop producing goods, companies would cease to exist and the global economy would collapse, chump.

Amazon > Ebay

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

no game is worth £40. i also condone waiting a while (a few years is a bit much) and getting games cheaper.

If you think no game is worth £40 then you have a warped sense of value...

if you willingly pay £40 for something that should and could be much less, then you too have a warped sense of value.?

If something gives me hours of entertainment for the price of a single person at a decent meal out, then what is the problem?£40 is not a lot of money for the amount of entertainment you receive from a good game.

books and movies give me hours of entertainment but i rarely spend more than £10 on those.

Books have a much lower production cost, and movies only last a few hours.

and that affects their entertainment value how, exactly?

"Awesome, Portal 2's out! I can't wait till 2013 so I can play it!"

ha ha joke.....

@laserbolts said:

Your thread title is fucking stupid.

This.

I'm fine with paying full price. That way I know what I'm getting. I've bought a few things off Ebay like a replacement bolt for my antique .22, but only because you can't buy them at stores.

"All you gotta do is wait a few years..."

I do the same thing, but six months to a year old and Steam or Amazon. That doesn't make anyone else an idiot, I just don't think many games are worth more than $20. The last game I bought within 3 months of its release was Mortal Kombat ($30 at Toys R Us less than two weeks after it released lol), and before that it was Fable II.

Amazon > Ebay

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

no game is worth £40. i also condone waiting a while (a few years is a bit much) and getting games cheaper.

If you think no game is worth £40 then you have a warped sense of value...

if you willingly pay £40 for something that should and could be much less, then you too have a warped sense of value.?

If something gives me hours of entertainment for the price of a single person at a decent meal out, then what is the problem?£40 is not a lot of money for the amount of entertainment you receive from a good game.

books and movies give me hours of entertainment but i rarely spend more than £10 on those.

Books have a much lower production cost, and movies only last a few hours.

I don't understand why people complain about games prices. You don't have to pay full price for a new release. All you gotta do is wait a few years then pick it up for next to nothing from some chump on eBay.

Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine!

I only buy games on sale thanks to Steam and Amazon.

I have spent over 1500$ on games on my ps3 AND buying my ps3 in the last year... Am i an idiot for helping sony and the many companies that make its games stay open?

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

no game is worth £40. i also condone waiting a while (a few years is a bit much) and getting games cheaper.

If you think no game is worth £40 then you have a warped sense of value...

if you willingly pay £40 for something that should and could be much less, then you too have a warped sense of value.?

If something gives me hours of entertainment for the price of a single person at a decent meal out, then what is the problem?£40 is not a lot of money for the amount of entertainment you receive from a good game.

books and movies give me hours of entertainment but i rarely spend more than £10 on those.

Books have a much lower production cost, and movies only last a few hours.

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

no game is worth £40. i also condone waiting a while (a few years is a bit much) and getting games cheaper.

If you think no game is worth £40 then you have a warped sense of value...

if you willingly pay £40 for something that should and could be much less, then you too have a warped sense of value.?

If something gives me hours of entertainment for the price of a single person at a decent meal out, then what is the problem?£40 is not a lot of money for the amount of entertainment you receive from a good game.

books and movies give me hours of entertainment but i rarely spend more than £10 on those.

books and movies give me hours of entertainment but i rarely spend more than £10 on those.

PGR4 has been given away for free for years in xbox live bundles. Even $2 is too much for it at this point.

If nobody paid full prices for games then the people who spent years and years on the game would not get any money. And if everybody bought games off eBay then the people who made the game wouldn't get enough money so they won't be able to make a sequel. Feel good about yourself now?

OR you could buy games at Kmart/Amazon on release day and get gift cards. I bought LA Noire at Kmart on Tuesday for $59.99, and I got a $20 gift card AND a $19.99 game for free. Am I an idiot for that?

@Toms115 said:

@SuperSambo said:

@Toms115 said:

no game is worth £40. i also condone waiting a while (a few years is a bit much) and getting games cheaper.

If you think no game is worth £40 then you have a warped sense of value...

if you willingly pay £40 for something that should and could be much less, then you too have a warped sense of value.?

If something gives me hours of entertainment for the price of a single person at a decent meal out, then what is the problem?£40 is not a lot of money for the amount of entertainment you receive from a good game.

I don't understand why people complain about games prices. You don't have to pay full price for a new release. All you gotta do is wait a few years then pick it up for next to nothing from some chump on eBay.

@MysteriousBob said:

@crusader8463 said:

@nintendoeats said:

I payed like 10 dollars for PGR4...in a store...it was used, but who cares?

The money grabbing publishers who finance developers to continue making great games.

Fixed.

More fixed. 

I hate how ridiculously expensive games are in Australia, but I still want to support the industry I love so much by paying full price for most games.

I just keep up on deals, for example just saved £20 off the rrp for L.A. Noire as I found it on Best Buy for £29.99. Keep your eye open and there are always deals to be had. I really only venture to ebay for retro stuff.

I got PGR 4 for free.

Project Gotham Racing 4 is a brilliant title. It's a shame that Bizarre had to be shut down. I only bought PGR4 recently, for £5 at a local retailer. While I didn't get it as cheap as you managed to find your copy, it's worth every penny I paid and more. Sure, it's better to pay full price to aid the developers but at the same time I can't afford to continually do that. Used games don't bother me - if there are enough copies bought new and then sold used the company is still making a decent bit of profit and that's what matters. I'm looking forward to buying stuff from eBay in the future, because there are some brilliant deals there.

@crusader8463 said:

@nintendoeats said:

I payed like 10 dollars for PGR4...in a store...it was used, but who cares?

The money grabbing publishers who finance developers to continue making great games.

Fixed.

But I want to play L.A Noire and Dirt 3 now and not 6 months later when they're cheaper.

Hey guys N64 games are really cheap now so I figured I'd finally pick some up.