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#1 Edited by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

@thisiseric said:

@extomar said:

@flyingroman said:

"Whatever legitimate concerns some members of GamerGate had concerning the industry have been drowned by threats of violence."

Uh, @patrickklepek , by this logic, since a lot of people on GG have recieved threats, this article has been drowned out? What?

As usual GG is brought up as if 99.999% of us had anything to do with this. If anyone has proof connecting me or anyone else to this CONTACT THE POLICE. I'm tired of this quasi-libel being thrown around everytime a tragedy such as this happens.

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You misunderstand the grammar of that quoted sentence. Whatever legitimate concerns GG had concerning the state of "video games" has been dwarfed by the very visible, shocking and absurd nature of these threats. Why pay attention to whatever ethics issues in video games when the much more sensation "women is chased from her home for talking about video games" happens?

And threats of violence, deaths, whatever against "XCloud7HunterX" is not even as remotely as disturbing as releasing personal information and "scheduling" times and places to attack people at public venues.

This is called the Appeal to Worse logical fallacy. If you want to play that game you should be talking about recent ISIS events which involve entire villages being massacred (which is equally absurd, perceived importance does not dictate order of discussion).

No it is not. Who do you call the police for "XCloud7HunterX"? Only one person knows where that person is. Threatening "XCloud7HunterX" that only appears to post bunch on Reddit iis like threatening Aristotle. There is no way to protect or harm XCloud7HunterX or Aristotle. On the other hand, people know exactly which police to call about someone being threatened because they know their home address is in a city and they are going to make a public appearance at a school.

If you want to play this game you need to actually remember what "Appeal to Worse" actually is. Let me help: "If we take these threats serious, then what about threats to people in the Middle East?" is an "Appeal to Worse".

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#2 Edited by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

@flyingroman said:

"Whatever legitimate concerns some members of GamerGate had concerning the industry have been drowned by threats of violence."

Uh, @patrickklepek , by this logic, since a lot of people on GG have recieved threats, this article has been drowned out? What?

As usual GG is brought up as if 99.999% of us had anything to do with this. If anyone has proof connecting me or anyone else to this CONTACT THE POLICE. I'm tired of this quasi-libel being thrown around everytime a tragedy such as this happens.

[clipping for brevity and absurdity]

You misunderstand the grammar of that quoted sentence. Whatever legitimate concerns GG had concerning the state of "video games" has been dwarfed by the very visible, shocking and absurd nature of these threats. Why pay attention to whatever ethics issues in video games when the much more sensation "women is chased from her home for talking about video games" happens?

And threats of violence, deaths, whatever against "XCloud7HunterX" is not even as remotely as disturbing as releasing personal information and "scheduling" times and places to attack people at public venues.

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#3 Edited by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

@sylect said:

This is timely, @patrickklepek makes the case for why GameGate should continue:

"We can't control what other people do on the internet, you can introduce tools, but ultimately, we are responsible for what each of us contributes to the noise."

I would love to know why this advice is no longer valid

Actually this makes the case for why GG should stop and people on their own figure out how to push for changes.

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#4 Edited by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

What is your problem? Did you overclock or hack something you were not supposed too? It is very unusual that going backwards would improve anything especially for new cards like 9xx.

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#5 Edited by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

@spraynardtatum said:

@rorie: Real evidence...I'm not sure what you want me to say. A name, an IP, a location, a manifesto about the horrors of games journalism, an interview, other tweets related to the name/ip/location, the walls of the harassers secret lair covered in gameinformer clippings of evidence of corruption, anything you can find to confirm that it has anything to do gamergate. Any kind of research that would prove that it's related to this movement. Anything at all.

Do you mean the evidence they left on GG sites and locations revealing coordination and details so others can harass is not sufficient enough?

And that really is common complaint that pops up over and over again. Supporters seem to say "it is not us!" but seem to be unable or unwilling to act when needed. I don't expect them to "Clean Up The Internet" but claims of innocence are light weight when they refuse or can't police or keep their own sites clean.

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#6 Posted by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

@slag:

I had a a teacher who was always fond of reminding people that Maximilian Robespierre was great at controlling the powerful groups and unruly mobs during the "Reign of Terror"...except for that last time. All of the machinery and privileges he had built up where immediately turned on him. If any "rational people" think they can control this or any movement, history has shown that the movement just bucks and brands them as a traitor and gets rid of them.

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#7 Posted by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

@mb said:

I don't take reviews that seriously since they are inherently subjective and just opinion pieces anyway. If a reviewer wants to discuss social issues in their games reviews, I just tend to avoid their reviews. I mainly only watch Quick Looks, though. Reviews aren't that useful to me.

To echo this idea, "Quick Looks" and "Lets Play" have overtaken the role of reviews for me. You get the impressions and feelings of the player immediate and in the context of the game which seem way more useful for "gut check" purchases.

Which goes back to what I wrote earlier where I pondered how reading something could "be a disservice". If I feel something I am reading is bunk or poor I stop reading it.

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#8 Edited by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

Who is Armond White? I guess they aren't that famous....?

The short answer is: It depends on the editor and what tone they were hired to bring to the publication. If the editor has been directed by the owners to bring a lot of "cake" into anything they publish then writers need to put "cake" into whatever they talk to or risk lower pay or their job.

ps. What does "At some point are those kind of reviews a disservice to the readers?" mean? How do you disservice a reader?

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#9 Posted by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

The question on my mind for any movie like this: Is it more entertaining to play the game for the duration of the movie or watch the movie?

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#10 Posted by EXTomar (4838 posts) -

Meh, this isn't worth "fighting" for. Nintendo should be free to make up whatever rules it wants while others should be free to accept or reject it.

ps. Youtube-ers are more valuable than "established press".

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