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#1 Edited by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

Meh, people misspeaking about a game isn't a big deal. Saying someone shouldn't talk about a game unless they are "experts" at it is the same idiocy super fans others when they say anything less than "its perfect!" about their favorite game.

Or another way to look it, if the only time the GB Staff should ever talk about LoL is "from expert authority" then everyone must live with the fact it will never be mentioned.

Side note: Brad is by no means an expert on Dota 2 and it is no a big deal to misspeak on details and mechanics.

#2 Posted by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@jesus_phish said:

Folks, you're all wrong about the best Zelda game.

The best Zelda is The Binding of Isaac.

Go sit over in the corner with the Darksiders fans. :P

Huh...funny that this was mentioned because there could be some parallels with Darksiders 2 and Zelda 2!

#3 Posted by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

I have a question for those who have played a fair bit of both LoL and Dota. I often hear that there's much more straightforward heroes in LoL, for the most part. Always wondered what that mean. Does that mean no equivalents to Puck, Storm, Furion, Enigma, Tinker or whatever the hell a skilled Earth Spirit is doing to my health bar?

To get things straight, I have nothing against straightforward heroes. I love playing Viper or Drow if I ever carry and of course it doesn't make LoL a worse game. I don't really have the time or energy to practice a decent Puck "Get in and. Zap the supports. Silence and coil everyone. Disappear and blink away" -combo.

To that end, are there "whombo-combos" on LoL? The synergies in some team combinations can be "explosive" where at the pro-level you need to counter draft to avoid it.

#4 Posted by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

That reminds me that I watched The Grand Budapest Hotel last night. That was definitely a Wes Anderson Wes Anderson film.

#5 Posted by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

CoD is one of the most played console games right now. Why is no one asking about the lack of coverage about that as well?

This needs to be repeated: There is nothing strange about a team of people that don't care for any game where in fact it happens all of the time. It isn't about popularity or respect but instead they just don't care for it. The answer to the question of "Why doesn't the GB staff like what I like?" is the same as "Why don't you like what the GB staff likes?" You just like different stuff than they do. No mystery there and pressuring them to like what you like is a terrible thing to do.

#6 Edited by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

Players still called heroes by their classic names (Nature's Prophet = Furion, Terrorblade = Ilidan, etc). And what is wrong with "Dragon Knight"? He is a knight that transforms into a dragon. :)

#7 Posted by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

Side thought: Do people really care about "lore"? The lore for MOBA games makes about as much as sense as the lore for Team Fortress 2 (the rich narrative of building two bases across each other and trying to get in). I always thought it was an amusing side thing where at best it adds flavor to in game chatter but it has never ever effected the game.

ps. Dota 2 "The International" start tomorrow with the "Wild Card" play offs!

#8 Edited by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

Getting back to Zelda, I've always said Ocarina was boring but that could have been due to multiple factors (I played very late in the N64 life cycle, played it after so many PSX RPGs, etc). I cruised through the game and found myself thinking how weird it offered no challenge compared to previous games and I even wondered if I simply outgrew the series. To this day I wonder what they saw when they claim Ocarina is the definitive Zelda. Majora's Mask was more daring and Link to the Past was more of a challenge.

#9 Edited by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

@dystopiax said:

@extomar said:

What do you mean "designed around its systems first and foremost while still remaining penetrable"? I've tried watching recent LoL matches off of Twitch and it nonsense to me akin to an unknown fighting game (stuff is flashing, bars are moving, etc.). I've got hundreds of hours in Dota 2 and original DOTA but I can't see through the game without way more time investment.

I don't think either game is very approachable suggesting that one is easier to pick up than the other is laughable.

idk I picked up League without any MOBA experience and was able to get into it fairly quickly (after a couple matches).

As for OP's question I think a fair number of the gaming industry dudes got into Dota 2 because it was coming out/was big news and they wanted to try a moba, then all the dudes already playing Dota/started playing Dota 2 wrapped other industry dudes they know into playing it.

It is more the case of trying to watch Cricket but only knowing how Baseball works. From just observing one can figure out a number of things on their own: It is a bat + ball game. The batter stands before a post which the thrower is trying to throw past while the batter is trying to protect/hit. The score seems to be driven by the number of times the batter can run between the posts before the ball is returned. I believe these are all true but very incomplete and doesn't explain why stadiums are filled with fans let alone still make sense for me watching a game.

And that is what I mean by being mystified by LoL games. As I wrote a bit ago I come from a lot of time playing DOTA and then a lot of recent playing Dota 2 and I clearly see the MOBA in LoL but that still doesn't mean it makes sense to me where it is just heroes running around a map triggering things for the ultimate goal of killing the throne/ancient.

As a casual observation, the big thing "new to Dota 2 players from LoL" seem to miss isn't some crazy skill but turning speed and attack delay/back animation. These players don't realize they've over extended or how precarious their situation is when other lanes call "missing".

#10 Edited by EXTomar (4441 posts) -

What do you mean "designed around its systems first and foremost while still remaining penetrable"? I've tried watching recent LoL matches off of Twitch and it nonsense to me akin to an unknown fighting game (stuff is flashing, bars are moving, etc.). I've got hundreds of hours in Dota 2 and original DOTA but I can't see through the game without way more time investment.

I don't think either game is very approachable so suggesting that one is easier to pick up than the other is laughable.