EXTomar's forum posts

#1 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

"Hostile" is not the right word where it seems more like "apathy". Its like trying to "get hype!" on another Nook. I'm sure people are excited about another e-reader...as long as you ignore that next gen hardware and software that looks much more progressive from Android and Apple.

#2 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

@xyzygy said:

I really don't see this as an issue. Why are people so angry? This is great news, the game is awesome.

That is fine because I don't see why this is so awesome.

#3 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

How about going back to the old/non-3D display to lower prices before adding candy colored buttons and face plates? That would be a real feature change worth spending money on.

#4 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

A refund policy would be nice but I could work with Steam without one. I have in the past just thrown a game away when I found returning it was too much work or effort and I do the same thing with digital games.

#5 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

Just in time to compete against latest Android and Apple wearable devices, tablets, and phones...?

#6 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

@random45 said:

I know it's fun to jump on the 'Fuck Police' bandwagon, but I think they did the right thing here. They got a call that someone was murdering people, so they reacted accordingly. Taking time to research the call could potentially lead to a much worse situation, so they had to act fast. Yeah they were rough, but it's not like they were beating the shit out of the kid, they were just doing what they were trained to do.

The one who should receive the blame is this sub-human kid who made the call.

Again and again, the issue isn't "the police should respond to calls for help" but the issue is "the police are responding to calls for help heavily armed and without a clue what they are going into". And again the issue is that they could have figured out something was amiss by checking a couple of details electronically. Storming a house just for any call for help is crazy because it is risky for them and for the people in the house. What started as a prank ESCALATED into an armed encountered where luckily no one was hurt.

I'm not excusing the prankster either but to suggest that this is how the police should always respond is nuts.

#7 Edited by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

@jarmahead said:
@extomar said:

The point is that just like the internet, because someone calls the police saying "Something is happening!" doesn't mean anything is real. There was no "very real threat" at that location. This would have been discovered by doing some simple things.

To be clear, I am saying that the police should take these calls seriously but "seriously" doesn't mean busting out a heavily geared team with little or no "intelligence".

You clearly have NO IDEA the kind of threats these guys are trained to deal with. And intelligence is never to be trusted until you see it with your own eyes. They cannot choose not to take it seriously, and they do not have time to ask if the threat is real. They need to respond in as little time as possible to avoid causalities. These guys are, as far as they know, putting themselves in danger to keep civilians like you safe.

And note, this guy is perfectly fine. I doubt he had so much as a light bruise on him by the end of it. He probably got enough publicity from the situation that he benefited more than not. He was not abused, he was not struck or anything like that.

But you clearly do or are implying something else? My dad who retired as a cop in even a small town bemoaned how poor information was responding to help. Addresses where wrong. The number of people in the incident was wrong. What was actually the problem was often wrong. To suggest that everytime they get a call THEY CHARGE IN LOCKED AND LOADED because of "unknown knowns and unknown unknowns" is preposterous. My dad would recount to us stories where bad information would lead to over actions lead in which money and time were valiantly wasted while scaring the hell out of people who didn't really mean too. He specifically says that police are pressured too much to jump into high tension and dangerous situations too quickly making sometimes simple problems much worse. Skip forward to today and a large city and I can see how unfunny and dangerous this is. And go figure, we have a situation where a simple problem made much worse.

And again to be clear, did I write "Oh the police should not bother"? No I did not write that. Did I write "Oh the police shouldn't protect themselves?" No I did not write that either. There are simple steps and protocols that can be taken to help eliminate false calls. I was suggesting we do those before going "5 Star GTA Mode".

#8 Posted by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

@andrewb said:

It's at least awesome that the guy was fully cooperative. That's the least you could do to alleviate the otherwise stupid situation everyone involved has been placed into.

On the one hand, yeah, it's totally ridiculous that this level of force is so easy to invoke. On the other hand, I hope you guys realize why taking every threat seriously is kind of necessary. The double-edged sword of people being scumbags on either end of the spectrum of crying wolf and posing a legitimate threat.

I guess...? The issue isn't that the police shouldn't take the reports seriously but that "seriously" shouldn't be: Go into 5 star GTA mode.

What keeps happening is that we have people charging in without "intelligence". It wouldn't have taken much investigating to discover the report wasn't that accurate so this charging in is expensive and risky when another approach would have been more appropriate.

#9 Edited by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

@bones8677 said:

Whatever happened to just ordering a bunch of pizzas as a prank?

Evidently these guys respond just as fast or faster than the pizza guy.

#10 Edited by EXTomar (4722 posts) -

The point is that just like the internet, because someone calls the police saying "Something is happening!" doesn't mean anything is real. There was no "very real threat" at that location. This would have been discovered by doing some simple things.

To be clear, I am saying that the police should take these calls seriously but "seriously" doesn't mean busting out a heavily geared team with little or no "intelligence".