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#1 Posted by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

At some point it's that fuzzy line between damaging discourse and the validity of the initial speech and losing context. Death threats, while increasingly and rightly talked about, are almost a classic example. Personally I think law enforcement agencies do a poor job of providing real life consequence to harassment and endangering of people's lives, speak nothing of angry hate speech. It's an interesting question though because ignoring the bigger issues with state control over internet in terms of censorship, a ton of horrible things get posted to internet services all the time that need moderation. Photos and videos of torture, beheadings, rape, and so on down the line that get moderated by third party companies.

Keeping internet free can mean a lot of things but so it can in the physical world. Freedom is an important value in modern society but one which usually shouldn't be absolute because it doesn't play out well. For as much as police systems are subject to corruption and a whole host of issues, when dealing with populations of a certain size, the institution itself becomes necessary in order to maintain some amount of peace and accountability. As such policing is inherently tied to law and other systems and so with freedom comes that execution concerning law and rights. As it happens, the internet is an imperfect derivative, caught somewhere between the current jurisdiction of physical life and more anarchic freedom.

The way I see it is that freedom on the internet as a value can only take us so far since we don't successfully operate that way in real life. The internet can and has been liberating, vital, disruptive, important, enlightening. But in all that vast space, there's also a lot of opportunity for hate, violence, damaging content, and all the ugliness that comes with people being able to do stuff. I don't know if all that ugliness will go away but I have to imagine we come up with a better compromise to address the cost associated with human interaction without sacrificing what's valuable about it.

Exactly the answer I was looking for. Very well put, thanks.

#2 Edited by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

So, OK I guess mods are internet police in a sense but I mean on a global scale. Can the internet be policed? should it be? Where should virtual lines be drawn?

I've been thinking about this more and more with whats been happening with the game industry in the past year or so. There are some outspoken people out there along with people that are looking for something to follow. The internet gives those people a voice and a place to belong and that's fantastic but there is a huge grey area tucked away in a corner somewhere that every now and then peeks its head out and yells "boo!" and disrupts productive discussion and discourse. I'm not talking about trolling or anything like that just obvious abhorrent behavior.

To be clear I'm not saying lets raise a coalition to get rid of negativity. That cant and probably shouldn't be done but maybe not let the people that abuse the freedom of the internet use it. I have no examples of how this could be handled just a mega spitball of a question.

What do you guys think?

#3 Posted by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

They probably didn't archive it on the site and just streamed it on Twitch but seeing as Twitch cleared out most of their database of archived video it's probably not there anymore. I remember Drew saying that they were working on uploading most of that stuff to youtube so you can try checking their channel. Other than that it might be just lost to the Internets. Let us know if you have any luck finding it though. I know I would like to watch it again.

#4 Posted by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

@sirthirdfilms: same here... Isn't this 2014? I thought things were supposed to be instant in the future?

#5 Edited by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

I would say (if you don't have a Mac) get Mixcraft for PC and just use your normal computer keyboard and use virtual instruments to start with. Take existing songs and just fuck around with them for awhile. Then start trying to make your own music and when you feel comfortable enough get the equipment. For recording instruments externally you need a good interface Focusrite’s Scarlett are some of the best around. You will also need studio monitors I recommend these and a decent MIDI keyboard like this one. That should be enough to get you started. Take it slow and build your own identity. Music production can take a lot of work and patience but its rewarding and a shit ton of fun. Good luck.

#6 Posted by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

Happy trails Alexis! Once a duder always a duder. Be good man.

#7 Edited by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

My first job was a bus boy at IHOP when I was 17 or so. Only worked there for about 2 weeks... I don't miss it.

#8 Edited by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

I was just going to say mine but I am outclassed by whats already been said. Anyway, from the ones available I really like Citizenoffeecake I'm surprised that one didn't get more votes.

#9 Posted by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars comes to mind. It's pretty good too but I don't think its on steam if that matters. Can't think of anything else though.

#10 Posted by fatalbanana (203 posts) -

I'm deeply sorry for your loss Jeff. If your father is anything like what I know or seen of you then I'm sure he was a pretty swell guy. I wish you and your family well.