FearfulInsomniac

I'm glad to see Sunshine and Double Dash getting love, I feel like I hear so many people saying the games were awful! I don't see why though, Sunshine was huge, presented a ton of challenge, as well as a crazy plot, but still felt like a Mario game, even with the water gun mechanic. Double Dash cemented my love in Mario Kart; I got the first as a kid, and even though I loved it, it was NOT an easy game by any standard. Double Dash got cruel and punishing later on, but it was a really fun game to play with others.

Awesome list!

Videodrome is a sick movie. It's honestly kind of bad, but Chronenberg films are some of my favorite. Even if Videodrome isn't your cup of tea, everyone should see the amazing adaptation of The Fly that he made. It's a masterpiece.

Now I have an excuse to rewatch Videodrome, when I should be watching Die Nibelungen. Whoops.

Holy crap, and I just reread it and saw Lake Placid. That is one of the best bad movies ever.

Shadows of the Damned. I still haven't finished it, but the touches Suda 51 put on it, and the music Shinji Mikami composed, brilliant. I love turning it on and seeing the cheesy b-movie intro.

If we're talking finished, probably Flower, Sun, and Rain, for loads of reasons, including the anti-gameplay it had. Touching, brilliant, and twisted, just like any Suda game. Killer 7 is just as fantastic.

Oh geez, I almost didn't catch that spoiler if it wasn't for dungbootle. I laughed afterward.

Also, I'm glad that Kotaku has an article about why I shouldn't by a console from a newspaper. Wow, I'm just baffled at that awful title.

@believer258: I actually feel bad for having aggravated you. I mean it.

All I'm trying to get at is that people are blindly speculating through sensationalizing. I didn't mean for you to feel attacked, or anything like that. The long reply thing I've caught a hundred times looking over forum posts. It was a joke, although the amount of quoting earlier in the thread was totally silly. I didn't mean to hit a nerve.

I'm splitting hairs, you're right, but it all gets to the point that we're all speculating at this point. "Destiny" could be totally different down the road. My problem also lies in that people are speculating without saying so. Calling it an "MMO" is speculation, because we don't know what it is, but it's being thrown around as being a fact. That bugs me. Saying "I hope" and all that is okay, but when you're unintentionally saying things that aren't necessarily proved to be true, it can get silly, stupid, or dangerous.

Anyway, I'm really sorry that you ended up on the bad end of this, especially since you were really the least offending member of those quotes I happened to pick out. Sorry.

@believer258: It's really as simple as this: The game hasn't been shown to us, we don't know what it looks like, or if it will even resemble what this document lays out, and that blind sensationalism is causing people to make ludicrous statements (not to be confused with Ludicrous' statements). Yes, massively multiplayer is the first two words of the MMO acronym, but my point is that, well, "you're just wrong in assuming this is an MMO, especially when the document makes certain not to use the exact words you're throwing around."

You wouldn't call all of the games I listed (here for reference: Dark/Demon's Souls, MAG, World of Warcraft, Warcraft/Starcraft, Diablo, Call of Duty, or Hybrid) MMOs, but they are pretty much in lieu of the ideas that the MMO presents. Would you call XBOX Live, Steam, or the PSN an MMO? You have lots of people online, sharing pretty much the same space, having the same aspects of what MMOs do visually, but you put them figuratively in the same "realm." But you wouldn't call them MMOs, unless you really wanted to prove a point.

As for the "sci-fantasy," once again, you're blindly talking about something you have no clue about. Will there be healers? Spells? Magic? Maybe. To quote Rod Serling (The Twilight Zone), "science fiction, the improbable [is] made possible; fantasy, the impossible made probable." But we don't know what they mean by this, we could be getting something like Xenoblade Chronicles for all we know, or we could get something like Star Wars, where magic is kind of there but not so prevalently. Bungie might completely scrap the fantasy at the end, or might completely scrap the sci-fi at the end, with only some lingering hints of either scattered across. In short, and in the words of Forrest Gump, "you never know what you gonna get."

Also, stop quoting so much of everything, it's freaking annoying. And get a sense of humor that's identical to me so you stop getting so offended by my preciouscomments. That's sarcasm, if you don't catch it.

EDIT: I fixed a spelling mistake that I'm an idiot to have made, and added a quote by Rod Serling to make myself look super smart.

@Dany said:

Don't be rude. This is whats posted, what are we 'blind' about?

The fact that MAG was also "massively multiplayer" but nevertheless didn't resemble some fantasy game. That came out of nowhere, and as far as MMO goes, it never says it is an MMO, you're just simplifying it into error. A huge error, because, you know, this could mean just about anything, especially if this deal doesn't hold together for the release of the actual game.

Just to go into why MMO ≠ "massively multiplayer style," here's some examples of games that use the basis of this idea differently: Dark/Demon's Souls, MAG, World of Warcraft, Warcraft/Starcraft, Diablo, Call of Duty, or upcoming Hybrid. You might argue that Strategy games, or CoD just don't cut it, but you have to realize that when you've got a million or so people playing online at the same time, even if it's 4 v 4 or 16 v 16, or whatever MAG has, it still could be said to resemble something that has a massive amount of multiple players that are online.

TL;DR: Nitpicking I may be, you're just wrong in assuming this is an MMO, especially when the document makes certain not to use the exact words you're throwing around.

@believer258 said:

Massively multiplayer style,

I DON'T WANT AN MMO BUNGIE! WWWWHHHHHHHYYYYYYYY!?!?!?!?!?!?

sci-fantasy action shooter

Why the fuck can't we do this without the MMO part?

@Dany said:

A quadrilogy of FPS MMO's with sequels every 2 years.

Good luck with that!

@believer258 said:

Halo doesn't have any elements of fantasy in it, though. Master Chief can't shoot an SMG with one hand and cast healing spells or fireballs with the other.

@isnipeyoudie said:

...They have to sell 5 million units? For a MMO with sequels every 2 years? Dude, what the fuck?

AAAAAAAAAAA IT ISN'T AN MMO. EVEN IF IT WAS, WHY WOULD IT BE STYLED LIKE A FANTASY MMO, WITH SPELLS?

Do you guys read? At all? I get irritated when other people arrogantly insult other people, but seriously, READ. THE. ARTICLE. Hell, read the bulleted points the original poster has. How are you guys even coming up with these points if you're not reading those? How are you guys even typing to me, how are you even alive at all? WHY DO YOU EXIST?, etc.

Self-satire aside, what the hell are you guys doing to miss these points? Do you have learning disabilities?