Nvidia push PC gaming graphics to compete with next gen consoles

Two months ago Nvidia announced they had formed a partnership with Ubisoft to push enhanced versions of their next gen titles to PC. The deal is rumored to be worth 5 million and whilst it benefits Nvidia to guarantee full SLI support as well as high end Nvidia developed features like TXAA

A few days ago people noticed the appearance of this page giving some fairly high minimum system requirements for Call Of Duty Ghosts, 6GB of RAM, a DX11 graphics card and a 64 bit OS. Normally we have to take these with a grain of salt, wildly inaccurate placeholder or estimated minimum specs have appeared for games before but in this case it's backed up by this recent page for Watch Dogs from Ubisoft that also asks for 6GB of RAM, a DX11 graphics card and a 64 bit OS.

The spec increase is quite a large jump from what most games were asking just last year but it's backed up by the Steam hardware survey. 44% have 6GB or more of RAM, 62.79% are DX11 and 79% have a 64 bit version of Windows.

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Edited by believer258

Who is buying a PC version of Watch Dogs that doesn't have a 64 bit OS these days anyway?

Edited by kagato

I thought Microsoft where supposed to be killing off 32 bit windows when they launched 7? It should have been changed years ago, i think the majority of gamers who have a PC have upgraded to a 64 bit architecture a long time ago.

Posted by joshwent

There are already other threads talking about the PC specs for Watch_Dogs and CoD: Ghosts. We should probably just continue this conversation there.

Edited by jimmyfenix

I am with Brad "Dota 2" Shoemaker. Since the next gen is coming PC games will start to look better. Every one wins well except if you own a wii u......

Posted by DystopiaX

Could be way wrong but the fact that Nvidia is not in either console means that they might be pushing hard for PC this gen, which would be good news for PC gamers.

Posted by YoThatLimp

Could be way wrong but the fact that Nvidia is not in either console means that they might be pushing hard for PC this gen, which would be good news for PC gamers.

I think they are partnering up with Valve for the Streambox versions of the steambox.

Posted by DystopiaX

@dystopiax said:

Could be way wrong but the fact that Nvidia is not in either console means that they might be pushing hard for PC this gen, which would be good news for PC gamers.

I think they are partnering up with Valve for the Streambox versions of the steambox.

For the prototype, which doesn't mean that AMD won't be on some Steamboxes later.

But that's still pretty much pro-PC IMO, since you could just dual-boot that shit anyway and a Steambox is even closer to a PC than consoles. And just because they're working on a Valve box doesn't mean they're also not gonna push the shit out of the PC market.

Posted by YoThatLimp

@yothatlimp said:

@dystopiax said:

Could be way wrong but the fact that Nvidia is not in either console means that they might be pushing hard for PC this gen, which would be good news for PC gamers.

I think they are partnering up with Valve for the Streambox versions of the steambox.

For the prototype, which doesn't mean that AMD won't be on some Steamboxes later.

But that's still pretty much pro-PC IMO, since you could just dual-boot that shit anyway and a Steambox is even closer to a PC than consoles. And just because they're working on a Valve box doesn't mean they're also not gonna push the shit out of the PC market.

Does AMD have a hardware streaming solution?

Edited by Klei

Don't want to sound like a dick for stating the obvious but, PC doesn't need to compete with next gen consoles, since those consoles games are built on PC's to begin with. As long as you keep your rig up to date, it'll always be the most competent gaming machine you can get.

Posted by FritzDude

6GB RAM, DX11 GPU and a 64-bit operatingsystem seems like a perfectly normal leap towards Next-gen games to me.

Edited by JoeyRavn

I am with Brad "Dota 2" Shoemaker. Since the next gen is coming PC games will start to look better. Every one wins well except if you own a wii u......

You buy a Wii U for the Nintendo exclusives, not for dem graphix.

Posted by mikey87144

Uh PC games will already look better than there next-gen counterparts. Devs have already stated that. Watch Dogs, (an please stop writing the underscore), is 30fps on console and Battlefield won't have as high a texture detail. Plus the new Need For Speed is capped at 30fps on console.

Posted by Scampbell

I suspect AMD will have much bigger influence PC gaming this generation than Nvidia, due to the fact that the next gen consoles will basically be AMD based systems with GCN-based GPUs. The fact that by using 'Mantle' performance optimization for PC could be a lot easier, especially if your system got GCN-based GPU.

I guess it depends on the different developers actually making use of it though, we know EA will, at least on Frostbite based games. Activation have commented they might have to. Though it also depends on Sony and Microsoft not creating roadblocks. I could imagine Microsoft doing so simple because they've stunted PC gaming before via Direct3D. Though it would be bad if Sony went the other way and directly supported it, which could mean performance on the PS4 would be objectively just better (in "Mantle" games). There seems to be lots of possibilities, in any case AMD kinda needs Mantle to get as much support as possible or it might just be another "Glide". Having every next gen console support their API seems like good start though.

Posted by ll_Exile_ll

@yothatlimp said:

@dystopiax said:

Could be way wrong but the fact that Nvidia is not in either console means that they might be pushing hard for PC this gen, which would be good news for PC gamers.

I think they are partnering up with Valve for the Streambox versions of the steambox.

For the prototype, which doesn't mean that AMD won't be on some Steamboxes later.

But that's still pretty much pro-PC IMO, since you could just dual-boot that shit anyway and a Steambox is even closer to a PC than consoles. And just because they're working on a Valve box doesn't mean they're also not gonna push the shit out of the PC market.

Steam machines are just pre-built PCs that have Steam OS installed instead of windows. They aren't just close to PCs, they are PCs.

Posted by Phyrlord

I'm really happy 760's were around 300$ this year. I have a 660 GTX ti so I'm looking at the 860's when they come out as a upgrade.

Posted by Flappybat

@mikey87144: We will know for sure around a year after release. Launch games usually don't looks so great, compare Perfect Dark Zero to Gears Of War which was released a year later.

Edited by MonetaryDread

This is the launch of a new generation of consoles / game engines. Every time this has happened in the past people, who probably build a PC within the last year, cry foul at the jump in system specs.

There is nothing unreasonable about requiring 6 gig of ram on a PC game. Previous engines ran at 32-bits and that meant games were limited in the amount of ram a developer could use. Eventually, that requirement has to change because 32-bit engines were limited in the accuracy of certain simulations (like AI, or physics). Unfortunately, moving to 64-bit engines, and using more detailed simulations, means that the game will be significantly more resource intensive than before.

Since the new consoles both have 8-gig of ram, the requirement of 6gig ram + a video card with 2gig of ram (total 8-gig) is a fair requirement. Both consoles have 8-core CPU's, so games will be designed around that feature faily soon as well. Consoles also both come with Blu-Ray as a storage medium, this will allow developers to develop games without the silly 7.5gig size limit like last generation, so that is why COD requires 50gig's. Remember, almost all games are developed for consoles first, then brought over to PC. That is the reality of game development in todays society.

To all the people who built a PC in the last year, and were told stupid reccomendations like, "a GTX 660 will be fast enough if you only run a 1080p monitor", or, "you only need 4gig of ram because no games use more than that," or, "an i5 is all you need for a CPU," I am sorry that ignorance, and spread bad information, was able to fool you. Listening to people on the internet burned me in 2004 and yet again in 2007.

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Posted by GERALTITUDE

Basically all of us in the mid-tier PC class just got 1-upped by the oh-so-pathetic next gen consoles. If you bought a PC in the last few years and *only* paid 600-1000 then it certainly sounds like you want to be buying your games on console if you care for peak performance. Coupling this new evidence with reports about the size of downloads (50+ gigs for Shadowfall) it sounds like we're heading back to ye old days where games came on discs and the game machine sat under the TV.

Posted by RoarImaDinosaur

@monetarydread: yeah I definitely feel caught off guard with the spec bump this time around. I just figured ports were so good that maybe I could ride the storm till next October and decide on what I wanted fr my next build. My rig will be pushing about 3 years so I guess it's the perfect time to upgrade.