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Notable Events from the GB Community: His Name was Endogene

Hello again fellow denizens of Giant Bomb! If you are reading this, you probably know what's coming because it's yet another instalment of....

Notable and Interesting Events from the History of the Giant Bomb Community

Previous instalments in this series include:
1. Persona 4 Endurance Run Ep. 50 Uproar
2. The Modelling Gig
3. ItalyCanadian9 Gets Exposed
 
It was June 21st, 2009 when one user's final blog post left a legacy, but will this legacy be one recognizing his major contributions, or one of a melodramatic farewell?

My name is Endogène,
 
I'm the 6th most important contributor to GiantBomb.com out of a total of 42985 members with a total of 57329 points that i got on 3523 different pages. I joined the site July 21, 2008, the day the site was launched. Including this final blog post i will have posted 3858 comments on the site. I am in the top 10 poster rank of both the "delete and combine" forum and the "editing and tools" forum. After I was chosen to become a moderator I moderated over 6000 submissions and posted  232 times in the "moderation hangout" placing 3rd on the top poster list. Today i turn my back to this all. 

His name is Endogène
 
A user of many qualities; knowledgeable, witty, inexplicably random at times.  Endogene was a Giant Bomb regular that undoubtedly had an immense passion for the site, most of his attention focused on the site's Wiki. He is not quite the 6th most important Wiki contributor this site has anymore, but he is still up there as one of the Wiki's main contributor at 12th place. Notable for his defence of NAKED CARTOON PUSSY, he laid the precedence for allowing all games in the eroge or H-game category in the site. But not only that, he was outspoken and strongly defended his views. It was a no-brainer that he became a Wiki-mod. Even in reviewing submissions, he scrutinized every user's contribution. Ensuring the info was original and accurate. Apparently this was all for nought as he came to a realization.
 
His name is Endogène   
  
He had concluded that the site's Wiki, the main feature of the site as advertised, was neglected by the founders and staff. Whilst responding to users' submissions, he had found that the reply button in the submission queue for mods was broken since launch. Devoting as much time as he did, he felt that with the giant influx of new content on site, including the ongoing Persona 4 Endurance Run and linking achievements to your profile, the staff have ignored the key component of the site. Witnessing many suggestions from users concerning improvement of the Wiki; experiencing and trying to rectify a Wiki issue; and seeing no response from the staff, he decided to tender his resignation. He sees this as an example of the staff ignoring the Giant Bomb community.

" Do the founders live in a tower so high above ground that they do only see clouds under them and not those below struggling? "

 
His name is Endogène 
 
Unfortunately, his final blog may be most remembered for his melodramatic style of including a detailed backstory, interspersed with exclamations of what his name is. In the unfortunate event that the reader forgot what his name was, Endogene would remind them. Pride and self-appraisal abounds as he listed what he thought had gone wrong with the site. His point would have undoubtedly been made clearer if the reader weren't confronted with the statement of Endogene's name after every paragraph. Of course, to end it all, he posts a symbolic poem. All before reminding everyone one last time with an exclamation that his name was Endogene.

" I didn't read any of that because its a fucking wall of text but one thing i do gather: his name is apparently endogene."

 
His name is Endogène
 
Considering how much the site has changed in nearly a year, would you think that Endogene would come back to the site in its current state? Do you agree with his assertions concerning the staff and Wiki? What would he make of all these new features notably; the Wiki Tasks and Quest System? How did you react to Endogene's departure and farewell? How would he be received if he were to return? All things considered, he was a hardworking contributor with nothing but love for this site. But people will remember one thing and one thing only...
 
His name was Endogène!
The blog can be found here.
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@armaan8014 said:
" @FrankCanada97 said:
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@Sweep said:

" @FrankCanada97 said:
"Considering how much the site has changed in nearly a year, would you think that Endogene would come back to the site in its current state? What would he make of all these new features notably; the Wiki Tasks and Quest System? How did you react to Endogene's departure and farewell? How would he be received if he were to return? "
 We should ask him ;) "


 

He actually told me he liked my write up, didn't make any comment on the site. "
I noticed his profile is active. So he's back? "

Guess so, he's been making some posts in different threads.
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@FrankCanada97 said:
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@Sweep said:

" @FrankCanada97 said:
"Considering how much the site has changed in nearly a year, would you think that Endogene would come back to the site in its current state? What would he make of all these new features notably; the Wiki Tasks and Quest System? How did you react to Endogene's departure and farewell? How would he be received if he were to return? "
 We should ask him ;) "


 

He actually told me he liked my write up, didn't make any comment on the site. "
I noticed his profile is active. So he's back?
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@Sweep said:

" @FrankCanada97 said:
"Considering how much the site has changed in nearly a year, would you think that Endogene would come back to the site in its current state? What would he make of all these new features notably; the Wiki Tasks and Quest System? How did you react to Endogene's departure and farewell? How would he be received if he were to return? "
 We should ask him ;) "


 

He actually told me he liked my write up, didn't make any comment on the site.
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@FrankCanada97 said:
"Considering how much the site has changed in nearly a year, would you think that Endogene would come back to the site in its current state? What would he make of all these new features notably; the Wiki Tasks and Quest System? How did you react to Endogene's departure and farewell? How would he be received if he were to return? "
 
We should ask him ;)
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I love these threads, first off. Second, I also want to nominate the stupid, stupid, stupid "Civil War", only so people can finally have a solid account of how pointless and dumb and overly dramatic everything was. All the people I talk to either missed out or were like me and complained about how stupid as shit it was, then went back to ignoring the babies on the forum.

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I can definitely see his point, but I'd think that at least the few quests have improved things, somewhat. Not enough, though, since there are still a billion pages left blank, even a few that I've created.

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@Rallier said:

" @kmdrkul said:

" @creamypies said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself. "
Dude what?! For whatever reason I simply refuse to believe that. "
Ya he was drunk and probably didn't even realize what he did.  I refused to believe what I saw. "
Man that was amazing, creepy but amazing "
Man, I must have been really hammered, because I don't even remember doing that :P . 
 
@Sweep said:

"That time when Snide yelled at me."

Dave is awesome for occasionally going on huge rants when people criticize him. Another awesome one is here.
 

Anyways, going back on topic, talking about Endogene - At the time, his leaving the site seemed totally melodramatic and over the top. However, with hindsight, I can totally see why he did it in such a way. If he had just briefly explained why he was leaving, we'd have said a couple of goodbye's, and forgotten about him & why he left. But as a result of the "My Name Was Endogene" stuff, it stuck in our minds and we're still talking about it today. It was a very smart move.
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@Red12b said:
"Frank, is Leigh Alexander next? that was balls man, totally fucking balls. I thought she was good, but man some of the comments directed at her were harsh,  I suggest you do something more cheerful though, Good stuff is harder to remember than bad stuff, so good luck to you.  "

It won't be the next one, but considering what video-game event is coming up in June, you'll know when it be chronicled.
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There's a proverb - it's not important how a man starts, but how he ends. And I think it's very true in Endogene's situation.

Yeah, most of his points were valid. But he really deserved all the ridicule he got if he thought that being pretentious and treating a website as serious business - no matter how hard he contributed to it - is a good way to go. Maybe the Wiki really meant so much to him he couldn't do it in another way, or maybe he was driven by the love for his own words, I don't know. But if he wrote that blog in a normal way, I think he'd make a more lasting impact that could possibly change anything.

He still made an impact with his departure, but clearly not the one he wanted - the only effect he had on us is that now we're posting "MY NAME IS ENDOGENE" whenever some douche posts a graphomanic wall of text concerning the website, or rather his unwarranted self-importance.

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Frank, is Leigh Alexander next? that was balls man, totally fucking balls. 
I thought she was good, but man some of the comments directed at her were harsh, 
 
I suggest you do something more cheerful though, Good stuff is harder to remember than bad stuff, so good luck to you. 

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Good job to you, and to Endogene, but given moronic posts like the above I guess mods will once again be excused in locking it, instead of telling those people to behave. Or will things actually change this time? Yeah, right... I'm glad I didn't contribute anything otherwise I'd feel so used and thrown away >_>

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Wasn't around for any of this but if its him that has the wiki full of Hentai shit then good riddance.

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Endogene was a bitch.

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@Linkyshinks said:

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In hindsight, I can see exactly why he kept stating "I am Endgene" before he fucked off. The very valid points he made have travelled through time well, and we've never forgotten him or his parting criticisms. Sadly, the staff haven't given a fuck about them, as he predicted well in his parting shot. Man, that dude was clever, lol     "

Yep, I wish I was on the site when he was around, I joined up right before this went down, well, not joined but joined in on the forum,  
 
And he was right, it's all been new stuff which is nice, these new sites and all, I mean I love movies and I would love to be able to have an upgraded IMDB because that site is outdated as all hell, but it's at the benefit of keeping the site bug free,  
I just don't see the logic of moving forward without trying to get things that need fixing fixed,  
 
I could draw parallels to MW2 But I am tired and I am going to sleep,  
 
But that doesn't mean I don't love this site, It's still one of the best user friendly forums I've been on, (Although I wasn't really a forum goer till giantbomb) It's just I want to see it better than it is, 
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I love these Notable Event threads. They're a great idea, so thank you for sharing some of them. As for Endogene's final blog, I did think it was a little too melodramatic after reading it. The fact he reminded the users of his name every paragraph is a great idea, assuming the reader has amnesia. In which case they might want to read it again. And again. And again. Sorry, that was a failed joke. But anyway: I do remember getting some of my wiki submissions approved by Endogene, and he seemed like a great Moderator. 
 
He does have a point though. A lot of the site is buggy, or never even used. And that is a shame, because there are some ideas with great potential, such as the Trivia section. And what's it used for? Nothing really, that I can see. A way to waste time when bored on the Internet. Unfortunately, it's nothing more, and there is no appeal for using it. Regardless, I love the bomb. And evidently, anyone who returns here daily must love it as much, if not more than Endogene did. If I truly loved a site I would try to endure any flaws with it, and continue to use it regardless.

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@FrankCanada97 said:
" @natetodamax said:
" @FrankCanada97 said:
 I think I'll document the "Giant Bomb Civil War"
Don't do that. Seriously, no. That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. "
But, the unknowing masses deserve to know what transpired that afternoon! "
Please write it, I'm very interested in reading an accurate account of what happened. Not like I realy care, but just seems interesting to read while on the crapper.
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@Linkyshinks said:
" @Claude said:
" @Linkyshinks said:
" Haha :) "
That was your 11,000th post. Fantastic. "
 I didn't realise.  It's undergone an edit to make it more so.  "
It is kind of crazy that you are quite near to being the top poster on Giant Bomb.
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@PenguinDust said:
"
 What elephant?
 What elephant?
This is another one of those happenings here on Giant Bomb that completely passed me by without notice.  Maybe I just get a sixth sense to avoid forum drama, or maybe (probably) I have nothing to say on such matters so I pop in then pop out again moving on to something more mundane or upbeat.  Reading some of these "notable events" is surprising to me even though I was an active member when the controversies were unfolding.  Keep up the good work.  I've learned a good deal about the community I enjoy.  "
Dude, do you see that elephant, it's right next to you. 
 
 
you don't? 
 
 
Wow, that's strange.
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 What elephant?
 What elephant?
This is another one of those happenings here on Giant Bomb that completely passed me by without notice.  Maybe I just get a sixth sense to avoid forum drama, or maybe (probably) I have nothing to say on such matters so I pop in then pop out again moving on to something more mundane or upbeat.  Reading some of these "notable events" is surprising to me even though I was an active member when the controversies were unfolding.  Keep up the good work.  I've learned a good deal about the community I enjoy. 
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" @FrankCanada97 said:
 I think I'll document the "Giant Bomb Civil War"
. "
please do!
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God,way to go over the drama on this one.It's the internet.It's not like he died or something,he just refused. 
Still,good read.

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Drama sucks donkey balls. That's all I have to say on this matter. But also I agree with the points being raised here, most of them anyway.

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@HandsomeDead said:
" @oldschool said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" I always thought his overwrought melodrama was funny but, like always, the userbase didn't get the joke. "
Just fill me in a little here, just in case I misread you.  Do you mean that the blog by Endogene was intentional humour, but it was missed by the masses?  If you do, then we agree, but we never agree, so that can't be right.  I always thought he was trying to make the point in a way that would be remembered, and it was, but the whole "ego" thing was just exaggerated.  I miss him anyway, his name was Endogene and he was my friend. "
I do indeed. And yeah, he was a decent fella and it's a shame he left. "
I feel the same way.  
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@oldschool said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" I always thought his overwrought melodrama was funny but, like always, the userbase didn't get the joke. "
Just fill me in a little here, just in case I misread you.  Do you mean that the blog by Endogene was intentional humour, but it was missed by the masses?  If you do, then we agree, but we never agree, so that can't be right.  I always thought he was trying to make the point in a way that would be remembered, and it was, but the whole "ego" thing was just exaggerated.  I miss him anyway, his name was Endogene and he was my friend. "
I do indeed. And yeah, he was a decent fella and it's a shame he left.
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@HandsomeDead said:
" I always thought his overwrought melodrama was funny but, like always, the userbase didn't get the joke. "
Just fill me in a little here, just in case I misread you.  Do you mean that the blog by Endogene was intentional humour, but it was missed by the masses?  If you do, then we agree, but we never agree, so that can't be right.  I always thought he was trying to make the point in a way that would be remembered, and it was, but the whole "ego" thing was just exaggerated.  I miss him anyway, his name was Endogene and he was my friend.
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I always thought his overwrought melodrama was funny but, like always, the userbase didn't get the joke.

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@ArchScabby said:
" @Feser said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself."
Do you really expect me to believe that? "
It was nothing.  People like to pretend like something big happened, but nothing happened.  I mean that in the most literal way possible, NOTHING HAPPENED. "
Absolutely nothing, it was so fucked up, 
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I remember civil war stuff being pretty serious. . . . . 
Still you should do one of these about it

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@Feser said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself."
Do you really expect me to believe that? "
It was nothing.  People like to pretend like something big happened, but nothing happened.  I mean that in the most literal way possible, NOTHING HAPPENED.
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@kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself."

Do you really expect me to believe that?
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@Linkyshinks said:
" Haha :) "
That was your 11,000th post. Fantastic.
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@FrankCanada97: Aha... yeah sounds like it. If you need any help... just give me a shout.
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@creamypies: Man, I can tell I have a lot of research ahead of me for the next entry.
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@Rallier said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself. "
Dude what?! For whatever reason I simply refuse to believe that. "
Ya he was drunk and probably didn't even realize what he did.  I refused to believe what I saw. "
Man that was amazing, creepy but amazing.  So what is this thread about? "
Baha! Man... I'm not sure if I should be glad or disappointed that I missed out on that!
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Endogenes points were pretty valid, in all honesty the Wiki here is lame compared to "Wikia Gaming".  It doesn't cover as many games, but it's structure and layout are light-years ahead of the one here.  This Wiki needs some basic layout for every Wiki bad.
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@kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself. "
Dude what?! For whatever reason I simply refuse to believe that. "
Ya he was drunk and probably didn't even realize what he did.  I refused to believe what I saw. "
Man that was amazing, creepy but amazing.
 
So what is this thread about?
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@DOUBLESHOCK said:
" "Civil War"?  Ugh, that stuff was stupid, and so is the fact that some people refer to it as a Civil War, as if it was that significant.  Ihate forum drama. "
Yep, and there has been about four or five stupid shit that's happened this year alone.
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"Civil War"?  Ugh, that stuff was stupid, and so is the fact that some people refer to it as a Civil War, as if it was that significant.  Ihate forum drama.

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@creamypies said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself. "
Dude what?! For whatever reason I simply refuse to believe that. "

Ya he was drunk and probably didn't even realize what he did.  I refused to believe what I saw.
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@AjayRaz said:
" @sopranosfan said:
" @AjayRaz said:
" @Colf said:
" @Cube said:
" @natetodamax said:
" @FrankCanada97 said:
 I think I'll document the "Giant Bomb Civil War"
Don't do that. Seriously, no. That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. "
Because you cried and "left" the site?  Or is that a soft spot? "
Nate and sunny both said that they were going to leave the site. (I think Ajay did too.) But then one day later they were back acting like nothing happened. The mods should have banned them, since they were not coming back they would not have needed their accounts right? "
whaat. i don't even know about that o-o  "
I think you were without internet but some people said that you left because of the "civil war".  "
i had no internet at the time, but from what i'm hearing it sounds dumb and over dramatic. i want to know about it!  "
You would have loved it. You picked a bad time to lose your internet. I think I was drunk during the civil war. I never got a purple heart.
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@kmdrkul said:
" @creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself. "
Dude what?! For whatever reason I simply refuse to believe that.
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@FrankCanada97:  What is this civil war you speak of? And how do I go about getting on this IRC?
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@creamypies said:
" I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened? "
Pretty sure one of the mods (Matty I think) posted nudes of himself.
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I don't really remember this "Civil War" either, what happened?

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@sopranosfan said:
" @AjayRaz said:
" @Colf said:
" @Cube said:
" @natetodamax said:
" @FrankCanada97 said:
 I think I'll document the "Giant Bomb Civil War"
Don't do that. Seriously, no. That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. "
Because you cried and "left" the site?  Or is that a soft spot? "
Nate and sunny both said that they were going to leave the site. (I think Ajay did too.) But then one day later they were back acting like nothing happened. The mods should have banned them, since they were not coming back they would not have needed their accounts right? "
whaat. i don't even know about that o-o  "
I think you were without internet but some people said that you left because of the "civil war".  "
i had no internet at the time, but from what i'm hearing it sounds dumb and over dramatic. i want to know about it! 
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Oh man. I remember when that happened. For as overly dramatic and self-pitying as that post was, he did have a point, and the wiki is still kind of broken. It also doesn't help that the quality of it is all over the place. Sure, there is the Wiki tasks tab, but that thing has faded faster than trivia.

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@AjayRaz said:
" @Colf said:
" @Cube said:
" @natetodamax said:
" @FrankCanada97 said:
 I think I'll document the "Giant Bomb Civil War"
Don't do that. Seriously, no. That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. "
Because you cried and "left" the site?  Or is that a soft spot? "
Nate and sunny both said that they were going to leave the site. (I think Ajay did too.) But then one day later they were back acting like nothing happened. The mods should have banned them, since they were not coming back they would not have needed their accounts right? "
whaat. i don't even know about that o-o  "
I think you were without internet but some people said that you left because of the "civil war". 
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@Colf said:
" @Cube said:
" @natetodamax said:
" @FrankCanada97 said:
 I think I'll document the "Giant Bomb Civil War"
Don't do that. Seriously, no. That was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. "
Because you cried and "left" the site?  Or is that a soft spot? "
Nate and sunny both said that they were going to leave the site. (I think Ajay did too.) But then one day later they were back acting like nothing happened. The mods should have banned them, since they were not coming back they would not have needed their accounts right? "
If you think I should be banned direct your complaints to the mods instead of the forums.
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and this, was my first memory of giantbomb. haha

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@Claude said:
" @Hamz said:
" @Claude said:
" @Hamz said:
" Sorry folks but any topic speculating and gossiping about the moderation(s) of any user(s) on the site will get locked or deleted. It's how a clandestine operation like ours rolls! "
If he does it as a blog and doesn't attach it to the forums, he's cool. Right? "
Nope. I'm afraid he isn't! "
You mean I can't spam my blog with speculation about the goings on of GiantBomb and the moderation at hand.   It sounds like a job of a mass PM then. "
That's what the IRC is for, Claude. What on earth do you think we talk about in there? Videogames? Not for fuck.