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@evanbower said:

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@clank543 said:

I feel bad for them, but did anyone HONESTLY expect this game to be a smash hit? At some point, these developers and publishers need to get realistic about what sells and what doesn't. While this game seemed well playing enough, it was destined to failure when they slapped the 60 dollar price tag on it instead of making it a low cost downloadable game.

I'm sure the developers were being realistic. You don't see them making some kind of bitter outcry about it. It's the audience that are not being realistic, with their "smash bros killer" mindset and thinking devs always have the time and funding to make every single idea they have into something that will blow everyone's minds.

But really though, should I feel obligated to pay sixty dollars for a game that isn't as good as Smash Bros and doesn't blow my mind with its ideas? I don't think it's totally unrealistic for an audience to be indifferent to a game when that's the transaction they're offered.

I don't find $60 for an "ok" game to be worth it either, but a ton of them are made and no one does anything about those. I'm only pointing out the fact the devs are being blamed for bad sales, when it's more the fault of publisher and consumer. Sure the devs could have come up with something totally different, it could have been a way better. But they are not to blame for bad pricing and the people who can't enjoy the game because its not smash bros.

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@clank543 said:

I feel bad for them, but did anyone HONESTLY expect this game to be a smash hit? At some point, these developers and publishers need to get realistic about what sells and what doesn't. While this game seemed well playing enough, it was destined to failure when they slapped the 60 dollar price tag on it instead of making it a low cost downloadable game.

I'm sure the developers were being realistic. You don't see them making some kind of bitter outcry about it. It's the audience that are not being realistic, with their "smash bros killer" mindset and thinking devs always have the time and funding to make every single idea they have into something that will blow everyone's minds.

@GrantHeaslip said:

While some of the emotions and motivations you’re attributing to me are straight-up wrong (“burn him at the stake”? Metacritic worship? “Superior taste and intellect?”), I get it, you’ve made your point, and I’ve made mine.

(If you want to reply, please send me a PM, I don’t want to keep filling up the comment section with something that I’ve managed to entirely divorce from the actual topic!)

This particular comment is what's giving him those "passive aggressive" vibes he was talking about. You're not letting it go, and it's a really bad thing. Just do yourself a really big favor and don't reply to this. I'll try to help you by not replying if you do.

@spankingaddict said:

I've never had to wait even 10 seconds to skip a scene . You can skip 90% of cutscenes instantly , not just some .

One of us has to be wrong :P

IF you're playing the PC version, I can understand not having to wait long at all to skip cutscenes, since it's reading info off a HDD which should be much faster than off disc media.

Just got the game. Plays flawlessly(aside from screen tearing, going to try the hardware v-sync later) on a GTX460. I would recommend this with a gamepad, I haven't tried keyboard and mouse but I feel like this game would be much less enjoyable without a controller.

@GrantHeaslip said:

@gesi1223 said:

If you disagree with Patrick so often, why do you continue to take his opinions seriously any more? It's like you're trying too hard to make sure everyone knows GiantBomb does not make your opinions for you.

That’s not the reason at all. I know I took it a bit far yesterday, and it’s because hyperbole drives me nuts.

I’m fairly invested in this site — I’ve been following some of these guys since the early GameSpot days — and I think they’ve been setting bad examples for the community with respect to criticism lately (not really talking about this article). I think, on some level, you can draw a line between the staff’s often-hyperbolic opinions and the way the community carries itself. Should it really be a surprise that community members thought shitting on DmC and anyone who likes it was kosher when the staff present similarly antagonistic opinions so regularly? There’s stuff said on the Bombcast and live shows that, if transcribed and posted to these forums, would be rightfully torn apart for being mean-spirited, closed-minded and badly supported.

I’ve got no problem disagreeing with someone’s opinion, but they’ve got to present it in an open-minded and nuanced way. That means not writing off genres, series, and critically-lauded games as “boring” or “shitty” because they’re not up your alley. That’s what this is really about, not any one example.

I understand and I agree that it would be nicer if they were less biased when it comes to games they do not much care for. However I don't feel it has been much different lately, and I am not expecting the editors to change any time soon. I am not letting it spoil my enjoyment of this site.

@GrantHeaslip said:

@druv said:

@GrantHeaslip said:

Yeah, this is another example of Patrick stating his opinion as fact. Yes, I know Metacritic has its issues, but about 550 games (minus multiform duplicates) scored better than ZombiU last year (it’s sitting at 77). Other games within 1-2 points include The Darkness II, Shank 2, Soulcalibur V, Nintendo Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Skylanders Giants, Transformers: Fall of Cybertron and Twisted “Dog Shit” Metal.

If Patrick wants to say it was one of his best experiences of the year, that’s great, but calling a game sitting at 77 “one of 2012's best experiences” betrays a weird lack of distinction between personal opinion and critical consensus.

There is no "fact" in regards to measuring experiences. If you want a site that either only reports other people's opinions ("which rated so-and-so on Metacritic" or "which game site x called one of the best experiences of the year") or hedges by constantly writing "according to me" you are certainly free to do so. I'm happy that GiantBomb is not one of those sites, but rather a site where the staff has opinions and writes their reviews and articles based on that. If you don't like a particular staff member's opinions, you are free to not read it. If that staff member brings the entire site down in quality, you are free not to visit or subscribe.

Sure, but there is objective truth regarding how a game was received, and words and phrases do have implied meanings. Saying something in an authoritative voice communicates to the reader a different message than “according to me.”

I realize it looks like I’m splitting hairs at this point, but I very genuinely see a broad, meaningful distinction here.

The “if you don’t like it, leave” stuff is tiresome. I do like the site, I just don’t like the way they sometimes express their opinions in an exclusive way, especially since it’s been happening more lately (and it’s by no means just Patrick). If I didn’t think the site was great (and I didn’t think these problems were addressable), I wouldn’t be bothering to bring up complaints.

If you disagree with Patrick so often, why do you continue to take his opinions seriously any more? It's like you're trying too hard to make sure everyone knows GiantBomb does not make your opinions for you.

I think getting testaments from both men and women who think this statue is totally dumb would have been a much better idea. Patrick would have at least made himself look a little better. But maybe he just doesn't care that much about what his audience thinks of him.

Edit: I felt like the anonymous person's post was the best one when I think of being levelheaded about this entire issue, with Anna being close second. However being anonymous for the fear of backlash just makes me go "now i don't really wanna take you seriously", which is a shame. Being afraid of what people think of you for your opinions feels like taking a step in the opposite direction when you want to have a say in something you supposedly care about.

@Counterclockwork87 said:

Underrated. Really good game in my opinion, and was glossed over way too much when it was released. After Resident Evil 6 and that other RE game I think people appreciate how good Revelations was in many ways.

I assume you mean good in a "for a Resident Evil game" sense. Because I own the game and at most it's OK. It does not even touch good when compared to most games in the third person shooter and even survival horror genre these days.

Personally if the statue were a bloody stump of a foot being advertised as "zombie bait", it'd be much more humorous and something i'd consider purchasing a collector's edition for. It's a dumb thing even if it were a foot, but it's much less embarrassing AND stupid looking than this torso. It's too bad they made it the cruddy torso.