" @Godot said:I'm saying it's fine. But society at large is hyper-sensitive to this sort of thing. All the other factors are valid, but to most people, the race absolutely is a factor. The entire subjugation of a race by another race sorta makes things a bit awkward when a member of the once-dominant race cracks a joke about the once-enslaved race. That carries much more weight than if a member of the enslaved race cracks a joke about the enslaving race, because they weren't the ones that kidnapped them from their homes, sold them into slavery and denied them basic human rights. The only way race wouldn't factor into it if their were no history between the different races whatsoever." @audiosnag said:I get what you're saying, but again, it doesn't make any sense. I've been made fun of for being Mexican in a goofin around way by friends, and maliciously by people who weren't. And for you to say "Well, it's ok for you to be made fun of. If you were a Jew it would be different because of the Holocaust.", is, to me, a bunch of bullshit. You can justify it however you like but when it comes down to it, racism is racism I don't care who you are. It's not the race that deems a joke to be acceptable or not, it's other factors. The tone, the meaning behind it, the relationship between the two people. It's pretty easy to tell when somebody is goofing around with a friend, and when someone is being hateful. "Making fun of a black guy as an individual vs. Making fun of a guy because he's black = Two different things. Different ethnic targets have differing levels of acceptability. I'm not saying you shouldn't make fun of whoever you want to, but it's pretty naive to think that past history has nothing to do with how acceptable it is to make a joke about a particular race. Jokes do not occur in a bubble devoid of context. It's not exactly complex the reasons why people think that jokes about racial groups your people (say, Americans and slavery in general) have treated pretty shittily aren't kosher. But hey, no-one likes the English! Bit of a random aside to throw in there, but whatever. "" @Godot said:
Oh I see. So it's only bad if you have had some terrible episode in the past? Sorry but that's pretty dumb. Again, jokes don't bother me, I used to live in a house with my bro, two english guys and a black guy. You couldn't be super sensitive in that environment, everyone made fun of everyone and it was cool. But at no point did we go "Hey wait, don't make fun of the black guy. White people made them slaves back in the day. They've suffered enough" Everyone should be treated the same. This vid doesn't really bother me that much cause it's jokes. And nobody likes the English. I was just making a point. "" @audiosnag said:
" I'm half Mexican...don't take myself too seriously, but I think it's interesting that they probably wouldn't ever say "Imagine waking up and remembering you're Black" or "a Jew". "Pretty sure Mexicans haven't been subjected to the same amount of racism and prejudice as black people and Jews. "
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