Elance seems to be one big bummer. The "Home Buying Riverside" client cancelled their job postings due to a "project cancellation" several hours after I had posted my proposal with the four logo designs. I'm sure that's just a coincidence despite the job posting being up for a full week before I had posted my proposal. Today I thought I would land my first client with a logo for a website. $40 price seemed to have been agreed upon and everything seemed good until...
Client: I like your ideas. Will that price include stationary logo and a relevant favicon?
Me: I could create a favicon for the website logo for the current price as it would only add an hour or two more to the workload.
The logo would be as is delivered (and any 2-4 variations that get made during a revision) and that could be applied to a stationery set, but the price and time does not include the creation of a stationery set with business cards, envelope, and letterhead. Making those items would be a much longer process and the price would reflect that.
I will create the website logo and create a favicon for that logo for the current price. If that sounds acceptable I could start working on the logo right now.
Client: How many revisions?
Me: For the price and time I could create 3 initial ideas and submit them to you. You'll look them over and decide which idea you would like to see developed. I will take the one you decided on and then give you three variations with slight changes. You will look them over and choose a final one and I can make any last changes you requested to that.
I will deliver the final logo as a pdf, png, and jpeg file.
Once the logo is approved I will make the favicon, which given the tiny size would probably be the initials "HS" or maybe some sheep/animal iconography that will be recognizable at such a small size. It would have some aspect of the final logo.
I would make 2 ideas (options limited with small size) and submit them to you. You decide which one to develop further and mention any changes in color, shape, etc. and I then deliver the final icon.
The favicon will be a 16x16 pixel icon in ico file format.
An hour after that exchange I find out that the client decided to go with a company in Pakistan that offers 24/7 service and UNLIMITED REVISIONS. You can't compete with unlimited revisions. I've dealt with clients that continue to change their minds for weeks, but I didn't care because I was getting paid by the hour at my internship. Maybe I should have set prices for each round of revisions so that they feel like they have more options, but I continue to get paid more with each additional revision. Maybe I simply can't compete with Pakistan prices of $12 an hour and unlimited revisions. All this when I was just about to get started on their sheep logo to show them I'm serious about their offer.
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