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#1  Edited By golguin

@believer258 said:

@FierceDeity said:

@posh said:

looking forward to all of the woman haters of giant bomb coming together and yelling at patrick like idiots

looking forward to all of the patrick-hater haters of giant bomb coming together and yelling at patrick-haters like idiots

Looking forward to the goddamn popcorn.

EDIT: Wait, so this is about the fucking Dead Island limbless statue? There are far worse things wrong with that than simple sexism. How do you people not see that the issue is that THEY ARE MARKETING A FUCKING LIMBLESS STATUE? It doesn't matter if it's male, female, or Klingon, it's a FUCKING LIMBLESS STATUE. Used AS A SPECIAL EDITION BONUS.

It's almost like Venus de Milo.

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This song has other elements that I recognized during the stream. The violin sounds super familiar. I feel like its some anime or video game. Anyone know what it is?

EDIT: I'm no music expert, why does that violin remind me of the violin in Madoka? I felt like I knew what it was going to sound like during the stream when it first started. That 0:37-0:50 on that Hipstra track is killing me right now.

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Elance seems to be one big bummer. The "Home Buying Riverside" client cancelled their job postings due to a "project cancellation" several hours after I had posted my proposal with the four logo designs. I'm sure that's just a coincidence despite the job posting being up for a full week before I had posted my proposal. Today I thought I would land my first client with a logo for a website. $40 price seemed to have been agreed upon and everything seemed good until...

Client: I like your ideas. Will that price include stationary logo and a relevant favicon?

Me: I could create a favicon for the website logo for the current price as it would only add an hour or two more to the workload.

The logo would be as is delivered (and any 2-4 variations that get made during a revision) and that could be applied to a stationery set, but the price and time does not include the creation of a stationery set with business cards, envelope, and letterhead. Making those items would be a much longer process and the price would reflect that.

I will create the website logo and create a favicon for that logo for the current price. If that sounds acceptable I could start working on the logo right now.

Client: How many revisions?

Me: For the price and time I could create 3 initial ideas and submit them to you. You'll look them over and decide which idea you would like to see developed. I will take the one you decided on and then give you three variations with slight changes. You will look them over and choose a final one and I can make any last changes you requested to that.

I will deliver the final logo as a pdf, png, and jpeg file.

Once the logo is approved I will make the favicon, which given the tiny size would probably be the initials "HS" or maybe some sheep/animal iconography that will be recognizable at such a small size. It would have some aspect of the final logo.

I would make 2 ideas (options limited with small size) and submit them to you. You decide which one to develop further and mention any changes in color, shape, etc. and I then deliver the final icon.

The favicon will be a 16x16 pixel icon in ico file format.

An hour after that exchange I find out that the client decided to go with a company in Pakistan that offers 24/7 service and UNLIMITED REVISIONS. You can't compete with unlimited revisions. I've dealt with clients that continue to change their minds for weeks, but I didn't care because I was getting paid by the hour at my internship. Maybe I should have set prices for each round of revisions so that they feel like they have more options, but I continue to get paid more with each additional revision. Maybe I simply can't compete with Pakistan prices of $12 an hour and unlimited revisions. All this when I was just about to get started on their sheep logo to show them I'm serious about their offer.

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#4  Edited By golguin

I would like to get back to maxing 3 plates on the bench, but an injury has kept me at 275. I don't want to injure myself again and lose 6 months.

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It's called Metal Gear. It has totally different gameplay and presentation. That's all. Naturally some will be upset.

For me, this being a Metal Gear game is only incidental to my hype for it. Platinum Games action game is the reason i'm interested.

I'm interested in the game because of Platinum Games. I've actually never fully played a MGS game (played one for a couple of minutes a long time ago at a friends house) and have never been interested in the series.

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@jozzy said:

I have no advice to give you, but I just wanted to say I think those logo's look very professional.

As a first pass on a concept with no input from the client I see a lot of issues and ways to make them look better if I was selected for the project, but it's always nice to hear good things. Thanks.

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I've been reading up a lot on pricing practices and freelancing tips. It really makes me appreciate my $8.00 an hour graphic design internship with 25 hours a week. It wasn't always pretty, but it was always a paycheck at the end of the week. Here's hoping I can at least land something part time and use freelancing gigs as gas money or something.

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I'd watermark your images in the future. That way they can't just take em.

Two don't undercut your peers. They are trying to feed themselves as well.

As said above a portfolio is supposed to show your work. You could make some quick mockups, but don't go too far. into it.

Also if you work cheap once, they will expect it every time. Working cheap or free is a good way to build a professional portfolio; but you need to let clients know up front. Since you are young and such that this is a one time price, and in the future you will charging them accordingly.

Also check Reddit for a Subreddit on GraphicDesigners or whatever; they can steer you in the right direction for pricing your time, skills and use of equipment.

I considered watermarking the images, but I didn't want to seem like I thought the client would run off with those designs. I compressed the quality to get some artifacting in the image, though I suppose if the client wants to steal it they wouldn't care about the quality of the image.

I understand what working for cheap does to the pricing, but I want at least a few jobs completed in my profile before I propose realistic prices. I read a bit about freelances on elance and a lot of them complain about people from India working for essentially nothing and clients accepting that. There were 30 proposals for that job. One was a girl from the US with 7 jobs completed on her profile. Another was a company in Canada with a bunch of completed jobs. The last English speaking possibility is a graphic design firm in the UK with more than enough jobs completed to entice anyone. The rest of the designers and/or firms were based out of India or Eastern Europe. I assume they are the ones that are bidding as low as $21 for the job. The average is about $46 and the highest bid is $100. I was originally gonna go with $40 to be a bit below the average, but is a new user going to find clients by being in the price range as everyone else?

I did end up spending a bit more time on the mockups then I had initially thought, but once I'm in the zone I feel like I need to bang out my ideas. I stopped myself at two designs with two variations each, but I had at least two more ideas in my head that I stopped myself from making.

I will check out that subreddit for graphic designers right now.

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im no expert but aren't you supposed to do the work after they they agree to pay you? seems like a lot of extra work if you could just show a portfolio instead.

Yes, but I have no leverage as a new user so I'm trying to stand out. I also sent my portfolio with 15+ pieces since those mockups are a bit lacking.

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Plenty of anime shows have them and they can be seen by kids. Does that count?

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@golguin said:

I've had success in the past with craigslist, but I'd like to widen my options. What other places have local listings (by county or region) where you guys have found success? It doesn't need to be a source where you actually got the graphic design job. Getting called for an interview is good enough for me.

Any help in finding good aggregate job listings websites that actually work is greatly appreciated.

Check elance for jobs maybe? Did you make a LinkedIn profile? That would probably help. Post on Facebook that you're looking for a job. Get your networking on. I just found a potential SEO job from a friend, although I probably won't take it due to a very long commute, but it is an option.

I just submitted my first elance proposal to a client so here's hoping I get selected for the job out of 25 other proposals. The client listed $50 as their budget and I listed my fee as $30.

If any designer could give me some tips on how to approach a freelance job when there are a good number of other people competing and I know their price range I would greatly appreciate it.

This was the job description...

Real Estate Investor needing sophisticated, elegant, simple logo to be made out of "Home Buying Riverside" , have not decided how logo should look. Initials or full lettering are my choices, which ever looks best. Colors are as seen onhttp://passionlifechurch.com/ logo design.

Job description:

I am very interested in seeing Word Mark, Letterform, or Emblem logos.

Logo type:

Other or Not Sure

My proposal was...

My name is Giovanni Olguin and I live in Riverside, California. I was attracted to your job offering because it mentioned Riverside and I figured a designer who might live in the same Riverside would be better suited to create a logo for you.

I don't know if "Home Buying Riverside" is based out of California so I didn't take any design cues from the city, but I did create 2 quick logos with two variations each for a total of 4. I don't know if you'll choose me for the job, but I made them as a sample to give you an idea of a design direction if you do choose me.

I have listed the estimated deliver date as 1 day, but the logo could very well be finished several hours after I know the specifics of what you need in the logo design.

I have attached the Home Buying Riverside logo samples as a jpeg file. I have also attached my resume and my portfolio as pdf files if you'd like to know more about the quality of my finished designs. The portfolio has over 15 pieces if you'd like to look at them.

Thank you for your time.

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