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@killacam said:

@believer258: it's not ludicrous to suggest that if 48 had always been the standard, this wouldn't be an issue. it IS ludicrous to base an entire argument around such an assumption.

i think 24 is a sweet spot for FILM because it strikes a balance between providing fluid continuity between frames and sufficient leftover space in order to let our minds do some of the work. films ARE an interactive medium because we are piecing these pictures together as they are shown to us. without our input, they're nothing. more frames actually equates to less creativity on our behalf in piecing together the visual narrative.

At the risk of sounding dismissive, is this argument based on verifiable information, or is just something you (or someone else) made up to "explain" why 24 fps is better?

Edit: As an example, someone else mentioned "persistence of vision" which according to Wikipedia is a myth debunked a century ago.

@tourgen said:

A class action lawsuit for my bike drove Suzuki to issue a general recall on it for the frame. So yeah, I'm not buying the argument that class actions serve no other purpose other than to make lawyers rich. There were hairline cracks in my frame and I got it replaced as a result. Without class action I guess my family could have sued for wrongful death after the frame cracked.

But where's the comparable class action that can be brought against Valve? There isn't a product to recall. They don't develop machines capable of killing or physically harming people. There aren't potential health issues related to using Steam.

The main issues I could see coming up would be related to privacy issues or account/banking issues related to credit card information and the like. And neither of those seem like they are going to be huge issues worthy of a class action. I mean, I know people hate EA and Origin, but honestly I don't see myself caring about anything Origin does that comes even close to requiring a class action lawsuit. So why should I really care?

Lasted a couple weeks. It just feels to familiar to WoW for me to really get into it. Hearing people talking about their "epic" mounts that they grinded "reputation" for just really killed my desire to want to keep playing.

Not that the game was bad. It's definitely a solid MMO and a good Star Wars game overall.

The main thing you can do is just reduce the number of games you purchase. I've noticed that once I cut back on purchasing games, it really helped me stop playing games for a few hours before wanting to move on to another one. Those Steam sales may seem awesome, but its a waste of money if you are just buying handfuls of games that you never get around to playing.

One of the biggest things that helped me realize how many games I really haven't beaten is http://backloggery.com

Having a visual that shows how many games I've never played let alone beaten helped drive home the point that I really need to cut back on my new game purchases.

@Scrawnto: I don't think it disconnects you.

if the server browser is web based, then it means you need to actualy alt-tab to use it. A company like DICE will not make a game where the user needs to alt-tab by himself to use something basic like a server browser , that is a bad design.

Pirates were playing the game without any issues, but we, as consumers, were fucked by Valve.

The point that I've been trying to make is that people are giving EA shit over the exact same stuff that Valve did years ago.
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Why must I be forced to have your storefront on my PC to play it?

I think the tidbit about L.A. Noire is more interesting. How can you sell 4 million copies of a game and still run a loss?

However one has to wonder why other EA games get away with this like ME2 and DA:O. Last time I checked Cerberus network and "choose this dialog and buy DLC directly" in Dragon Age aren't exactly Steam friendly.

(1) Exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices. (3) The exclusive possession or control of something.  These sound like good things to you? Do you honestly believe that were Valve to have complete marketshare, they'd continue to be the benevolent masters you so willingly support?