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Are contrarians the new fanboys?

It seems to me like the contrarian has taken the place of the fanboy from last generation. While we still get fanboys, I see many more people who seem to hate things because it seems like so many more like them. If I had never played a game before and decided to jump headfirst into it, and I came online, trying to use review scores and user reviews as a baises of what to buy (not sales numbers), I would think reviewers are crazy. I mean look at these metacritic scores 
 
MW2: Critics: 94 out of 100 Users: 60 out of 100 
 
GTA 4: Critics: 98 out of 100 Users: 70 out of 100 
 
Halo Reach: Critics: 92 out of 100 Users: 72 out of 100 
 
Halo 3: Critics: 94 out of 100 Users: 75 out of 100 

 
But look at these, this is where is gets real weird 
 
R.U.S.E: Critics: 77 out of 100 Users: 84 out of 100 
 
The Saboteur: Critics: 73 out of 100 Users: 86 out of 100 
 
Army of Two: Critics: 72 out of 100 Users: 83 out of 100 
 
 
 
I know metacritic is not the end all be all of ratings, and really, these numbers are based on a number of different factors, but they are still interesting. R.U.S.E. better than GTA: 4? Army of Two better than Halo 3? The Saboteur better than MW2? On top of that, we have the contrarian critics. In film these type of critics (like Armond White) are considered a joke. This generation, it seems as if we celebrate game critics like this (take Yahtzee or Jim Sterling for example). Other critics are guilty of this too. How many podcasts have you listened to or blog posts have you read where a reviewer sounded as if he didn't like a game he gave a good review to? 
  
I do not want to come off like I am trying to discourage people from having their own opinions, and I do understand that, well, haters gotta hate, but I am starting to believe that some people are annoyed by all things popular and that unfortunately affects peoples opinions the same way envy affected the fanboy culture of last generation.     

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@Deusoma said:
" I've noticed this trend as well, can't say I'm very fond of it.  I don't think Yahtzee is really a reviewer, though, and frequently warn my friends against considering anything he says while determining whether to buy a game. He's strictly going for entertainment value, not genuinely reviewing the games he plays. As for the users, the concept of hating popular things and liking unpopular things has always been around; look at people who bashed Avatar and Transformers simply for being large, pop-culture friendly movies, or those annoying "indie kids" who only listen to bands who have never been published.  On a side note, though, at least one of those examples is accurate. In my own personal opinion, based on experience with the game and not just because it's the popular thing to say, Grand Theft Auto IV is not a very good game, especially when compared to the previous games in the series. As an example, apart from the storyline (which is gangsta cliché garbage), Saints Row 2 is better in every way. "
Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation is definitely mostly  for entertainment, he even admits it so. 
 
And by the way, Transformers was terrible and that's true for a fanboy or a regular movie viewer. 
 
And I recently played through GTA4 again, it's still quite excellent aside from the socializing aspects that can become tedious. I absolutely love the story from beginning to end, the ending is very anti-climactic (in a good way), which is actually very different from any game of this type.
 
I also enjoyed Saints Row 2 quite a lot. It reminds me a lot of GTA San Andreas for it's overall goofy nature. The pacing of getting upgrades and gaining respect or whatever gets pretty annoying at times.  Story is serviceable, but nothing special. Combat is probably the strongest point of this game.
 
I'd argue that despite certain flaws GTA4 is the better game. From the excellent physics to the compelling story and social interactions, it's more ambitious in every way compared to the by the books ( a good one none the less) offering of Saints Row 2 . The only problem is that Saints Row 2 got unnecessary criticisms because of the existence of GTA4, it certainly wasn't ambitious or new, but the core experience was great fun.
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@Hashbrowns said:
" @greennoodles said:
" @zombie2011 said:
" I watched that episode of Family Guy too. "
Huh? Sorry, can't stand Family Guy. "
That is incredibly refreshing to hear."
I don't watch it either.
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@drag:  

Reviews are meant to be a critique and discussion of your experience with a game, not a blow by blow of the product's features.

Saw this on the twitterverse, can't believe some people have to be reminded about this.
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Sorry, as soon as you brought up MetaCritic for your defense, I stopped reading.

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I think you bring up some good points and  i feel it is the result of the game market growing. we now have a lot more gamers playing games and more different type of gamers. So your going to hear more of the bashing on games. Also you will have people feeling like they have to defend the money they spend so they will fanboy or hate on whatever they don't buy because they made the best choice.
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@drag: Oh, god, no. It was more directed at the contrarians, who like to focus blindly on one set of features ("What about the multiplayer?") and ignore others, including the reviewer's standpoint. "This review sucks because it doesn't talk about this and this! I'll write my own better review!"
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It's ok to not like something.  It pisses me off when you say you don't like something and therefore it is overhyped and doesn't deserve the praise it gets.

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I don't mind people who dislike things that I like. But I DO mind when they go out of their way to tell you that what you like is awful. Like when somebody replies to a comment about a game I like, and all they say is, "That game sucks". No, you're just a douchebag looking for attention.