Operation Rainfall: Help a Duder Out

What It's All About

Operation Rainfall is a grassroots movement with one goal in mind. To get Nintendo of America to release several currently Japan/Japan-Europe-only titles released in North America. Specifically, the campaign is targeting the games Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower. In the off-chance that this campaign proves successful, it may move on to campaigning for other releases, as well.

The movement has already garnered press, as well as online support from Monolith Soft and Mistwalker, the companies behind Xenoblade and The Last Story respectively. The movement is focused on traditional avenues such as a letter-writing campaign to get the word to Nintendo and request the releases of these titles. Additionally, Operation Rainfall has taken to Amazon.com. Back in 2009, a product page was set up for Monado: Beginning of the World, the game which is now known as Xenoblade. The page is still there, and it's possible to take preorders. People have been lending their support by preordering the game in droves to the point that yesterday, Monado actually became the top-selling video game on Amazon.com. People were actually for a time ordering it faster than they were games like Ocarina of Time and Black Ops.

More information can be found here at Operation Rainfall's website as well as this Wikipedia article.

Granted, there's the chance that this may not work. That our pleas will still go unheard, but after having North American releases of everything from Fatal Frame IV to Disaster to Captain Rainbow to Zangeki no Reginleiv shot down, the people that want to see games such as these released deserve to have their voices heard. And for Xenoblade at least, there's the boon of both the ability to preorder the game and show Nintendo that people are actively willing to pay money, and it's also currently being localized for European release.

So if you're a Wii owner that feels burned by missing out on any of these games, or just someone that wants to promote the release of intriguing titles in North America, please, do your part and help out. It won't happen if we don't try.

UPDATE: June 29th

Even Australia is getting this. Why aren't we?

Nintendo posted some rather brief notes to Twitter and Facebook today as their way of addressing the issue, saying that they still have no plans to release any of the three games here in North America. I'd find this completely absurd if this wasn't Nintendo of America we were talking about here. But this isn't over yet. The campaign is just getting underway whether Nintendo (and certain forum users here) likes it or not. Everyone is encouraged to keep posting to Nintendo's Twitter and Facebook. If you haven't done so yet, also preorder Xenoblade and put The Last Story and Pandora's Tower on your wishlists. Prepare to send letters to Reggie. The address is at Operation Rainfall's website, linked above. Be courteous. Be poilite. But be firm.

UPDATE: July 7th

Hope springs eternal, ladies and gentlemen. According to a source at NOA, NTSC localization of Xenoblade has already taken place, and The Last Story is currently in the process of localization for both NTSC and PAL. If this is true, then it's still anyone's guess as to why NOA is sitting on announcing a release date, but this tidbit is at least enough to keep hope alive. Still no word on localization of Pandora's Tower, however.

80 Comments
83 Comments
  • 83 results
  • 1
  • 2
Posted by Hailinel

What It's All About

Operation Rainfall is a grassroots movement with one goal in mind. To get Nintendo of America to release several currently Japan/Japan-Europe-only titles released in North America. Specifically, the campaign is targeting the games Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower. In the off-chance that this campaign proves successful, it may move on to campaigning for other releases, as well.

The movement has already garnered press, as well as online support from Monolith Soft and Mistwalker, the companies behind Xenoblade and The Last Story respectively. The movement is focused on traditional avenues such as a letter-writing campaign to get the word to Nintendo and request the releases of these titles. Additionally, Operation Rainfall has taken to Amazon.com. Back in 2009, a product page was set up for Monado: Beginning of the World, the game which is now known as Xenoblade. The page is still there, and it's possible to take preorders. People have been lending their support by preordering the game in droves to the point that yesterday, Monado actually became the top-selling video game on Amazon.com. People were actually for a time ordering it faster than they were games like Ocarina of Time and Black Ops.

More information can be found here at Operation Rainfall's website as well as this Wikipedia article.

Granted, there's the chance that this may not work. That our pleas will still go unheard, but after having North American releases of everything from Fatal Frame IV to Disaster to Captain Rainbow to Zangeki no Reginleiv shot down, the people that want to see games such as these released deserve to have their voices heard. And for Xenoblade at least, there's the boon of both the ability to preorder the game and show Nintendo that people are actively willing to pay money, and it's also currently being localized for European release.

So if you're a Wii owner that feels burned by missing out on any of these games, or just someone that wants to promote the release of intriguing titles in North America, please, do your part and help out. It won't happen if we don't try.

UPDATE: June 29th

Even Australia is getting this. Why aren't we?

Nintendo posted some rather brief notes to Twitter and Facebook today as their way of addressing the issue, saying that they still have no plans to release any of the three games here in North America. I'd find this completely absurd if this wasn't Nintendo of America we were talking about here. But this isn't over yet. The campaign is just getting underway whether Nintendo (and certain forum users here) likes it or not. Everyone is encouraged to keep posting to Nintendo's Twitter and Facebook. If you haven't done so yet, also preorder Xenoblade and put The Last Story and Pandora's Tower on your wishlists. Prepare to send letters to Reggie. The address is at Operation Rainfall's website, linked above. Be courteous. Be poilite. But be firm.

UPDATE: July 7th

Hope springs eternal, ladies and gentlemen. According to a source at NOA, NTSC localization of Xenoblade has already taken place, and The Last Story is currently in the process of localization for both NTSC and PAL. If this is true, then it's still anyone's guess as to why NOA is sitting on announcing a release date, but this tidbit is at least enough to keep hope alive. Still no word on localization of Pandora's Tower, however.

Posted by Video_Game_King

To be fair, Fatal Frame IV actually has an English fan translation, so a release outside Japan isn't necessary. You know what's necessary, though? FUCKING FIRE EMBLEM. Why hasn't Nintendo gotten on this? It runs on the Shadow Dragon engine, so I can't imagine Nintendo having trouble translating it, and I know for a fact that the DS is still getting games (Devil Survivor 2, Solatorobo, etc.), so what the hell? Tell me when Operation Rainfall gets on that. In the meantime, I'll just passively wait for those titles to come out.

Posted by Hailinel

@Video_Game_King: You don't get it, do you? The fact Fatal Frame IV has a fan translation is not relevant to this discussion. This is a campaign for Nintendo to officially release these games in North America without forcing fans to resort to importing, translation patches, and torrents. And like I said, if Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower earn releases, then the campaign will move on to other titles. Fire Emblem included.

But Fire Emblem is not the focus now. And it does not help either the cause of the three Wii titles or Fire Emblem for you to just sit passively. If you want to help, do something constructive to show your support.

Posted by YoThatLimp

2 developers who made the game are supporting it? Impressive.

Posted by ZombiePie

@Video_Game_King: I would always take you as someone who would virulently defend Nintendo's royal prerogative.

Moderator
Posted by Video_Game_King
@Hailinel
 
I would, but I don't know enough about Japanese or ROM hacking to create translation patches.
Posted by Hailinel

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel: I would, but I don't know enough about Japanese or ROM hacking to create translation patches.

That's not the direction I meant.

Posted by Video_Game_King
@ZombiePie said:

@Video_Game_King: I would always take you as someone who would virulently defend Nintendo's royal prerogative.

What?
Posted by Video_Game_King
@Hailinel
 
It's the next best thing. After all, I don't have any phone lines or mailmen going from Earth to the Moon, do I?
Posted by Cincaid

@Metalideth said:

2 developers who made the game are supporting it? Impressive.

I don't know much about game releases (read: I know zero), but isn't it the publisher that have something to loose on a release, not the developer per say?

Again, I really don't know anything about stuff, but I hope your movement go as planned. I'm still fucking pissed about never seeing a Culdcept Saga release in EU, not to mention being regionlocked so I can't even import it.

Posted by UnrealDP

No way, if this paves the road for more internet "campaining" then sign me off. Its not that big a deal and nintendo doesn't really take a financial hit for not bringng it to the states since everyone who really wants it is going to import. Importing from europe doesn't cost that much, especially for a wii game. Nintendo has their reasons and im cool with going against the system and everything, but christ this is just plain annoying.

Posted by Hailinel

@Video_Game_King said:

@ZombiePie said:

@Video_Game_King: I would always take you as someone who would virulently defend Nintendo's royal prerogative.

What?

I'll tell you what:

This:

And this:

And this:

These are the games that Operation Rainfall are currently supporting.

Posted by Juno500

Pre-ordered Xenoblade, hope we get something.

Posted by TheBlackPigeon

Well, since you asked so nicely, how can I refuse? 
 
Signed.

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP said:

No way, if this paves the road for more internet "campaining" then sign me off. Its not that big a deal and nintendo doesn't really take a financial hit for not bringng it to the states since everyone who really wants it is going to import. Importing from europe doesn't cost that much, especially for a wii game. Nintendo has their reasons and im cool with going against the system and everything, but christ this is just plain annoying.

How is this annoying, pray tell? You seem interested in the topic enough to respond, and Nintendo has already shown indication on Twitter that they recognize the campaign. What do you seriously stand to lose from this?

Posted by Video_Game_King
@Hailinel
 
You misunderstood my "what". I was saying, "What the hell are you trying to say? Your words make little sense to me."
Posted by Hailinel

@Juno500 said:

Pre-ordered Xenoblade, hope we get something.

Thanks! I hope so too.

@TheBlackPigeon said:

Well, since you asked so nicely, how can I refuse? Signed.

Thanks, duder!

Posted by Bishna

so, im really getting my hopes up and i know i shouldnt. But i really want these games!

Posted by ArbitraryWater

Well, at least this movement is actually being active about accomplishing its goals instead of just signing a petition. It's refreshing, and in the off chance that it does actually accomplish anything I will hail it as a singular success of internet democracy. That being said, I have no interest in any of these games, so I will not be writing a letter to Reggie.
 
 @Video_Game_King: YEAH MAN? WHY HAVEN'T THEY RELEASED IT YET?!?!?! I mean, I'm sure Shadow Dragon did alright for itself, and this new one even has a "for pussies" mode to help draw in the mainstream! Plus, it's not like localization is much of a problem, considering it will probably be just as bland and dry as the SNES original (if Shadow Dragon's script was any indication). WHAT ARE THEY DOING?!?!

Posted by Video_Game_King
@ArbitraryWater
 
Actually, Book 2 of Monshou no Nazo was MUCH better than Book 1. The story was better, the graphics fit together better (I can't say that they were better themselves, since the two books shared the same damn graphics), the music was better, there was a lot more to it, blah blah blah, WHERE'S MY FUCKING FIRE EMBLEM!?
Edited by UnrealDP

Before i start thanks for being civil man, i was expecting some flak.

Its just that i've already seen different topics revolving around xenoblade and nintendo did this for a reason, like i said, i guess its ok to try and "campain", but petitioning and "campaining" is just so annyoing. By annoying i mean you gather signatures, present them to nintendo, and it doesn't help anyone. Want the game, then import it and they make the same amount, maybe even more, as if you had realesed it in amereica. Why would they sell this in america?

No person at nintendo wants this and it makes their lives harder, its not like they told satan to burn america to the bloody ground. Nintendo has done nothing wrong and its maybe better this way, the game will get reverence from its american fans who imported it for simply being a game not realesed in america, so it will be liked it little bit more then it deserves for this fact.

Bottom line, want it, import it, nintendo doesn't need/want any of this and they have done nothing wrong.

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP: Actually, it doesn't work as you think.

Let's say that there's a game that looks really awesome in Japan right now and I buy it. Where does that money go? To the Japanese Nintendo offices. Nintendo of America does not see any money from the transaction because it is not a game that was published by them. The only way that NOA sees money from the sales of a game like Xenoblade is if they were to release it themselves.

Further, for everyone that may have interest in Xenoblade, not everyone will know enough Japanese to understand the game, nor will they necessarily have the knowledge on how to modify a console or run games with translation patches. It is easier from the end-consumer's perspective if the game is released locally in their own native tongue. It's also cheaper as well, as importing games carries an extra international shipping cost.

Would it require work on NOA's part to release these games stateside? Yes. But that is also their job. They are in the business of selling video game hardware and software. Yet despite a number of high profile releases overseas, Nintendo of America has been, for the most part, content to limit the U.S. Wii releases to known brands and major titles. It's part of the reason why people complain that Nintendo never does anything new. We as a group are trying to show Nintendo that yes, there is a market for Xenoblade and the other games here in the U.S. Sure, it may not be the mass market for games like Smash Bros., but there are people that want to play these games.

The worst that Nintendo can do is say no. But that doesn't mean it isn't worth the effort.

Posted by UnrealDP

So, this whole thing is "We don't want no japenese nintendo making this here money, we want this to go to an all american nintendo". Nintendo is still nintendo as a whole and if you refuse to pay the european nintendo and the japenese nintendo just because you want america to make this money, is a little sad. I know theres more to this with you also wanting an easier way to buy the game, but still IMPORT IT!

Get a copy of the european release and pay a few extra bucks, its not like nintendo of america is going to starve with out all this xenoblade money. No matter which nintendo you pay it benefits nintendo as a whole and nintendo of america will be fine. If your big problom is localization then this is a totally different conversation about the size of the release and the team making it.

The games you mentioned are released here and you "campain" guys buy it. You're basicly the only people that will buy it, i mean, have you seen how poorly every disc game for the wii released by third parties in america does? North american nintendo knows that this by no means is a cost effective trio of games to sell and your constant "campaining" is only reminding them that "man its a total bummer that it would cost way to much to localize and sell these games, but i hope the fans just import and stop bugging us about this sad cold reality".

Posted by Juno500

Ignoring these games would be one thing if NoA had their hands full with a bunch of other Wii games, but all they've got to release in the future is Zelda and Kirby. There ain't shit coming out for the system otherwise, so I don't see it as unreasonable for them to release them here.

Posted by CookieMonster

Could you get them to release all the Earthbound games in the uk while you're at it?

Posted by Video_Game_King
@CookieMonster said:
Could you get them to release all the Earthbound games in the uk while you're at it?
All of them? Do you really want Earthbound Zero? It kinda sucks. I can see a case for Mother 3, maybe, but you may want to leave Earthbound Zero out of it. Just release it as Mother 2+3.
Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP said:

So, this whole thing is "We don't want no japenese nintendo making this here money, we want this to go to an all american nintendo". Nintendo is still nintendo as a whole and if you refuse to pay the european nintendo and the japenese nintendo just because you want america to make this money, is a little sad. I know theres more to this with you also wanting an easier way to buy the game, but still IMPORT IT!

Get a copy of the european release and pay a few extra bucks, its not like nintendo of america is going to starve with out all this xenoblade money. No matter which nintendo you pay it benefits nintendo as a whole and nintendo of america will be fine. If your big problom is localization then this is a totally different conversation about the size of the release and the team making it.

The games you mentioned are released here and you "campain" guys buy it. You're basicly the only people that will buy it, i mean, have you seen how poorly every disc game for the wii released by third parties in america does? North american nintendo knows that this by no means is a cost effective trio of games to sell and your constant "campaining" is only reminding them that "man its a total bummer that it would cost way to much to localize and sell these games, but i hope the fans just import and stop bugging us about this sad cold reality".

You don't know that. All you're doing is speculating. Can games be imported? Yes. But it costs more than a domestic release, and it doesn't reach nearly as wide an audience as it could by remaining exclusive to Japan/Europe. The "why bother" approach that you're taking is nothing but pessimism. If Nintendo feels that it's worth their time and money, then yes, they'll do it. But to say, "Don't bother, it's obvious that they don't care" is not the path to take.

@Juno500 said:

Ignoring these games would be one thing if NoA had their hands full with a bunch of other Wii games, but all they've got to release in the future is Zelda and Kirby. There ain't shit coming out for the system otherwise, so I don't see it as unreasonable for them to release them here.

This is true. Nintendo's Wii line-up is rather sparse. Yes, Zelda is a big name game, and Kirby is a big franchise as well, but that's two games between now and whenever the Wii U launches. Nintendo would benefit from having more releases for the Wii between now and then.

Posted by TehFlan
@UnrealDP: Importing is certainly an option for the people that would organize this kind of thing, but there are plenty of people that are only going to buy these games if they get a proper US release (like myself). I don't think this is a pointless endeavor.
Posted by Dalai

@Video_Game_King said:

@CookieMonster said:
Could you get them to release all the Earthbound games in the uk while you're at it?
All of them? Do you really want Earthbound Zero? It kinda sucks. I can see a case for Mother 3, maybe, but you may want to leave Earthbound Zero out of it. Just release it as Mother 2+3.

They translated Earthbound Zero in English before they scrapped the North American release some 20 years ago so they could just pull a Sin & Punishment and release it on Virtual Console if they wanted. But I do agree with you that it's not a good game. So very grindy.

Edited by UnrealDP

@Hailinel:

What do you mean "speculation" look at sales for any disc based wii game from a third party or even nintendo and see how dead of a market it is. "no this game is a hardcore wii game for hardcore fans so it will find an audience", just look look at madworld, a good game thats easily four stars and platnium (the developer) lost tons on it and they regret it.

Cold, hard, reality is that wii games on a disc just plain out don't sell, so i hope you see my point here. Im not being a pessimist here, im stating the facts that wii games don't sell. This has nothing to do with market penetration or a wider audience, retail wii games don't make money!

Look at the conduit and the conduit 2, they had tons of marketing and positive buzz and yet both did bad on the market. Now lets say your nintendo "hmmm all these wii games aren't selling so lets forget we're a companey attempting to make money here and throw all this funding at localizing another wii game." Any good buisness man would see how much of a money sink this hole wii disc game thing is and there is no why bother element about this.

All of you "campaign" guys are acting on passion forgeting that this is an industry and if you really want it this bad, i don't think you're going to mind the extra cost of importing. This is a professional buisness trying to make money, so they can't fund everything.

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

What do you mean "speculation" look at sales for any disc based wii game from a third party or even nintendo and see how dead of a market it is. "no this game is a hardcore wii game for hardcore fans so it will find an audience", just look look at madworld, a good game thats easily four stars and platnium (the developer) lost tons on it and regret it.

Cold, hard, reality is that wii games on a disc just plain out don't sell, so i hope you see my point here. Im not being a pessimist here, im stating the facts that wii games don't sell. This has nothing to do with market penetration or a wider audience, retail wii games don't make money!

Look at the conduit and the conduit 2, they had tons of marketing and positive buzz and yet both did bad on the market. Now lets say your nintendo "hmmm all these wii games aren't selling so lets forget we're a companey attempting to make money here and throw all this funding at localizing another wii game." Any good buisness man would see how much of a money sink this hole wii disc game thing is and there is no why bother element about this.

All of you "campaign" guys are acting on passion forgeting that this is an industry and if you really want it this bad, i don't think you're going to mind the extra cost of importing. This is a professional buisness trying to make money, so they can't fund everything.

Is it really necessary for you to put campaign in quotes every time? You sound condescending.

Further, Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower are not third-party titles. All of them were published by Nintendo in Japan and produced on Nintendo's dollar. Monolith Soft, the company behind Xenoblade, is owned by Nintendo. These games are Nintendo's own titles to market and sell.

At this point, your'e sounding less and less like you're willing to debate and more and more like your just trying to be argumentative for the sake of it.

Posted by Video_Game_King
@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

What do you mean "speculation" look at sales for any disc based wii game from a third party or even nintendo and see how dead of a market it is. "no this game is a hardcore wii game for hardcore fans so it will find an audience", just look look at madworld, a good game thats easily four stars and platnium (the developer) lost tons on it and they regret it.

Cold, hard, reality is that wii games on a disc just plain out don't sell, so i hope you see my point here. Im not being a pessimist here, im stating the facts that wii games don't sell. This has nothing to do with market penetration or a wider audience, retail wii games don't make money!

Look at the conduit and the conduit 2, they had tons of marketing and positive buzz and yet both did bad on the market. Now lets say your nintendo "hmmm all these wii games aren't selling so lets forget we're a companey attempting to make money here and throw all this funding at localizing another wii game." Any good buisness man would see how much of a money sink this hole wii disc game thing is and there is no why bother element about this.

All of you "campaign" guys are acting on passion forgeting that this is an industry and if you really want it this bad, i don't think you're going to mind the extra cost of importing. This is a professional buisness trying to make money, so they can't fund everything.

Finally! You spelled the word "campaign" right!
Edited by UnrealDP

@Hailinel: Im trying to debate, but your skipping over my big point VIDEO GAMES ARE A BUISNESS!!1!!111!

So what if the game is made by nintendo, it realy doesn't matter like i said. Nintendos first party games have even done bad like mario party for instance and the nintendo barnd means nothing with these games since they aren't recognizable as nintendo games, "Oh yeah xenoblade my favorite nintendo game." Nintendos name means nothing, but a little stamp on the box that helps sell to a very small audience that probably are too busy thinking about nintendos next console.

The only points you're making now are....

1. Saying "campaign" in quotations is condecending and....well yeah you got me there, im kind of a dick.....

2.These are nintendos games so maybe they will put marketing behind them to which i say what i have already said in that wii games don't sell and this has been proven with everyone getting burned in the long run except people who make cheap, mini game collections, which don't need a lot of return to make a profit. Mario galaxy sold at first mainly because of the mario name, while no one recognizes xenoblade as a thing and even if it would be the biggest hit in the world released in the U.S, it would be the only wii game, without mario, to make a sizable profit, so if you know rudementery buisness you know the wii market is dead. Sorry for block of text....

3. That im arguing for the sake of arguing, you never even gave an example of me doing this and you"re ignoring all my major points, so i think that answers that.

Edited by UnrealDP

@TehFlan:

I would like to play this, but not so much that i would import, but hey games are a buisness and with the state of the wii's disc sales, i really don't think that this is anything more then an annoyence to nintendo whos trying to be tough knowing that, just because we sound like we want it doesn't mean we really do. Look at madworld, everyone said they wanted a hardcore wii game and madworld did real bad. Look at the conduit, everyone said they wanted a good fps and that sold real bad too.

Yeah i know its a real bummer man and im so sorry if im coming off as a dick right now, really i am its just that you guys are forgetting this whole buisness thing.

@Video_Game_King:

Christ, i was hoping no one would notice hahaha!

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP: I am perfectly aware that they are a business, as are the organizers of Operation Rainfall and many others getting involved. But just because they are a business does not mean that they see themselves as being above direct influence of consumers. In all of this, you are missing my main point:

Everyone participating is doing so of their own volition out of a desire to see these and other Nintendo Japan titles released in North America. There is absolutely nothing wrong in what we are doing, and there is no harm in doing it. I and others are also cognizant of the fact that despite what strides the campaign may make, success is not a guaranteed outcome. However, the possibility of failure, whether it be due to Nintendo not seeing the releases as financially justifiable, or for any other reason, is not enough to give up trying.

What you are doing is using a business logic that you have yet to prove you fully understand in order to argue against an act being performed out of a desire; a desire that, so far, has landed one of the games at the top of Amazon's sales charts for two days running now. All Nintendo would need to do is publish the game in North America, and they could have that money that people have already said that they are willing to pay. People are saying, "See this, Nintendo? We are prepared to buy this game from you if you would simply consent to release it for us." And that's potential sales through only one channel.

Once again, we are fully aware that this doesn't guarantee anything. But even if it doesn't succeed, I feel better for at least trying instead of doing what you're doing; belittling the act out of seemingly no productive desire. You gain nothing from arguing against this as you are doing. Me? I maintain the possibility that a U.S. release can still happen.

Posted by Bocam

Think of it like this... Nintendo wants to get the hardcore crowd back. Releasing these games would be a huge step forward in that regard. That being said, Xenoblade is a pretty bad game.

Posted by Hailinel

@Bocam said:

Think of it like this... Nintendo wants to get the hardcore crowd back. Releasing these games would be a huge step forward in that regard. That being said, Xenoblade is a pretty bad game.

Even if that's true, I'd still like the opportunity to go to a shop and buy it myself. I want to be granted the choice and be able to make my own judgment regarding the game's quality.

Edited by Cornman89

I'd like to play two of those games. TO AMAZON!

Posted by UnrealDP

Edited by Bocam

@Hailinel: I think I hated it due to fact I had to spend $400 to play it. Though The Last Story was worth it so I'll support this.

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP said:

If that's truly what you believe, then there's really no point in arguing with you any further. Why do you bother posting in this thread if you have nothing constructive to contribute and prefer to insult those that get involved?

Posted by Hailinel

@Bocam said:

@Hailinel: I think I hated it due to fact I had to spend $400 to play it. Though The Last Story was worth it so I'll support this.

Ouch. Yeah, there are very few games worth $400. Why did it cost so much to play?

Posted by UnrealDP

@Hailinel:

Dude, if you want me to believe you're not just angry and saying stuff or out of any way you can counter what im saying, then give an example instead of an unconstructive statement.

Posted by Bocam

@Hailinel: Had to buy a Japanese Wii, I found out two days later that you could bypass the region lock by softmodding

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

Dude, if you want me to believe you're not just angry and saying stuff or out of any way you can counter what im saying, then give an example instead of an unconstructive statement.

An example of what? You fail to make any sense other than repeating the same mantra of "they're a business, so don't bother" over and over again.

@Bocam said:

@Hailinel: Had to buy a Japanese Wii, I found out two days later that you could bypass the region lock by softmodding

Ah. Yeah, I can see how that might sour your mood.

Posted by UnrealDP

@Hailinel:

Oh my god, you"re proving my point so well! If you look back on our conversation i say the same thing over and over because you ignore it until that last post where you bring up a point and i counter it and now you're being whiny about me not making sense when before your argument was that i wan't being contructive. Ether try to make a constructive entry to this conversation or don't reply to this post and stop making excuses....

Posted by Hailinel

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

Oh my god, you"re proving my point so well! If you look back on our conversation i say the same thing over and over because you ignore it until that last post where you bring up a point and i counter it and now you're being whiny about me not making sense when before your argument was that i wan't being contructive. Ether try to make a constructive entry to this conversation or don't reply to this post and stop making excuses....

You didn't answer my question. What do you want an example of? Provide me with an answer to that question or I will have nothing more to say to you.

Posted by UnrealDP

@Hailinel: Dude.....that question of what do you want me to provide an example of is not meant to be answered, its not that hard to scroll to the post before the post where i said provide a n example, but if you're going to play dumb i want you give me an example of a point where i idn't answer your question or was unconstructive to the argument not including this bogus "what example" question. Please allow us to get back on track with the argument or don't reply to this post at all if you're going to continue being a jackass by straying us off the path of the argument, unless you want this entire thread to become you playing dumb on stupid retorical questions.

Edited by gla55jAw

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel: Dude.....that question of what do you want me to provide an example of is not meant to be answered, its not that hard to scroll to the post before the post where i said provide a n example, but if you're going to play dumb i want you give me an example of a point where i idn't answer your question or was unconstructive to the argument not including this bogus "what example" question. Please allow us to get back on track with the argument or don't reply to this post at all if you're going to continue being a jackass by straying us off the path of the argument, unless you want this entire thread to become you playing dumb on stupid retorical questions.

I'll continue the argue for him since I just read all the posts haha. I don't get why you seem to be so bent on putting this down. If people think this could help get them something they want, let them do it. Nintendo, game sites, and even the game developers have taken notice to what everyone (including myself) are doing in an attempt to get these games over here.

I don't think your argument saying that people are just being lazy and don't want to import the game is very reasonable. For one, Xenoblade already has an English translation that is being released in Europe, so why not bring it out in the US? As for the other games, well, they're in Japanese! I doubt most people can understand Japanese and would want to go through the hassle of spending double to import, get an import Wii or mod their own. Plus, the whole point of this little movement is that people want the real official release of these games, which are Nintendo properties.

I understand what you're saying about the business end of all this, but you also have to keep in mind that, businesses also have to keep their customers happy too. as well as make money.

  • 83 results
  • 1
  • 2