"Interplay developed the first two, didn't they? If so, they deserved to win. You can't sue a company for selling a product they made. "

" @harrypmgaga said:

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Apparently they claimed that people would get confused between the original Fallout series and the new Fallout 3-style series. "

Be honest now. They are selling a product know as fallout trilogy that doesn't contain fallout 3, and you think people are not going to get confused? "

Seems to be a lot of people thinking Bethesda is being greedy with this lawsuit, when they aren't actually looking to get any money out of it. You can definitely argue that they shouldn't try to stop Interplay from selling the original series, if that is indeed what you think they are doing, but they're not actually trying to get any money out of Interplay. So, I'm not sure where people think greed figures into this, but I thought I'd at least clear up that issue.

" @NickL said:

" @harrypmgaga said:

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Apparently they claimed that people would get confused between the original Fallout series and the new Fallout 3-style series. "

Be honest now. They are selling a product know as fallout trilogy that doesn't contain fallout 3, and you think people are not going to get confused? "

I think they're take the extra 5 seconds to read the rest of the cover, guy. 

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If they wanted to dissociate with the previous entries they shouldn't have call the 4TH Fallout game Fallout 3. Its just a bite the hand that feeds situation it seems like, like they think they're the ones who made Fallout worth something so they deserve all creative control for anything related to Fallout.

All I gotta say is thats pretty funny.

@toast_burner said:

"i wasnt aware   Bethesda were trying to stop them from selling the first two fallouts. thats fucking bullshit fallout 1/2 are much better then fallout 3 which is probally why they were trying to stop them being sold. because  Bethesda know that they are shit in comparison    to the clasics and they dont want more people to realise it. "

" @ryanwho said:

" @NickL said:

" @harrypmgaga said:

"
Apparently they claimed that people would get confused between the original Fallout series and the new Fallout 3-style series. "

Be honest now. They are selling a product know as fallout trilogy that doesn't contain fallout 3, and you think people are not going to get confused? "

I think they're take the extra 5 seconds to read the rest of the cover, guy. 

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why do i have to read the cover? it says fallout trilogy, trilogies include 3, fallout 1,2 and 3  btw im totally playing devils advocate right now, but i can guarantee you that this has undoubtedly happened to more then a few people not in the know "

"If they wanted to dissociate with the previous entries they shouldn't have call the 4TH Fallout game Fallout 3. Its just a bite the hand that feeds situation it seems like, like they think they're the ones who made Fallout worth something so they deserve all creative control for anything related to Fallout. "

" @natetodamax said:

"Interplay developed the first two, didn't they? If so, they deserved to win. You can't sue a company for selling a product they made. "

they published it. black isle developed it but interplay owned black isle "  

" If they wanted to dissociate with the previous entries they shouldn't have call the 4TH Fallout game Fallout 3. Its just a bite the hand that feeds situation it seems like, like they think they're the ones who made Fallout worth something so they deserve all creative control for anything related to Fallout. "

"@toast_burner said:

" @natetodamax said:

"Interplay developed the first two, didn't they? If so, they deserved to win. You can't sue a company for selling a product they made. "

they published it. black isle developed it but interplay owned black isle "  

If I'm not mistaken, Interplay developed and published the first game, then black isle developed the second one, with Interplay publishing again. 
 
@ryanwho said:

" If they wanted to dissociate with the previous entries they shouldn't have call the 4TH Fallout game Fallout 3. Its just a bite the hand that feeds situation it seems like, like they think they're the ones who made Fallout worth something so they deserve all creative control for anything related to Fallout. "

It's actually the 5th game. Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (PS2), and Fallout 3. "

It just seems kind of cynical to me. Its not like some mom will walk into a Gamestop and see this and be like "oh, my boy wanted Fallout 3 and here it is!" because no major game retail outlets even sell PC games, really. How stupid do you think people are, I mean really. If you're smart enough to find a store that still sells hardcopies of PC games I think you can crack this egg.

It just seems kind of cynical to me. Its not like some mom will walk into a Gamestop and see this and be like "oh, my boy wanted Fallout 3 and here it is!" because no major game retail outlets even sell PC games, really. How stupid do you think people are, I mean really. If you're smart enough to find a store that still sells hardcopies of PC games I think you can crack this egg. Interplay is getting a boost from Bethesda's Fallout 3 by releasing this, there is no doubt, but that's why they sold the IP to begin with. But to presume people would only get this because they think Fallout 3 is in there (which seems to be Bethesda's case) is just preposterous and egocentric imo. "

" Interplay developed the first two, didn't they? If so, they deserved to win. You can't sue a company for selling a product they made. "

" @cinemandrew: I think the real case is,  Fallout 3 drew heavily off the box art for the original games to begin with. So what if Beth purposefully made the FA 3 box art look similar to the FA 1 and 2 box art, knowing they would have control of what any future Fallout release's box art looked like.  It seems shady to me, for Beth to go "well we made a  reimagining of  your game that has similar box-art to the originals, but if you release a boxed set of the originals that follow the same template for fallout game box-art, NO WAY!"  what about people that meant to go buy fallout one and 2, but bought fallout 3 instead? I'm supprised no one has brought this side of the argument up. "

" @natetodamax said:

" Interplay developed the first two, didn't they? If so, they deserved to win. You can't sue a company for selling a product they made. "

You can if you bought the license to it. I do think that it's a dick move, however, and I really wonder if Bethesda set Interplay up to fail to begin with.  But dick move or not, the fact remains that Bethesda owns the entire Fallout license. And if they did not approve the sale of the trilogy pack by Interplay, then I find it kind of strange that the judge ruled in favour of Interplay. After all, they own everything related to Fallout now, so realistically it's their call. Same thing with the MMO. If Interplay failed to meet the requirements agreed upon in the contract, then Bethesda is within their legal right to claim breach of contract.   But on the other hand, no one knows the details of the agreement between Interplay and Bethesda so it's kind of hard to judge. We know bits and pieces, but until we know everything I don't think it's fair to point fingers. In the end, the only ones that really know what's going on are Interplay, Bethesda, and the judge preciding the case. "

" @ryanwho said:

It just seems kind of cynical to me. Its not like some mom will walk into a Gamestop and see this and be like "oh, my boy wanted Fallout 3 and here it is!" because no major game retail outlets even sell PC games, really. How stupid do you think people are, I mean really. If you're smart enough to find a store that still sells hardcopies of PC games I think you can crack this egg. Interplay is getting a boost from Bethesda's Fallout 3 by releasing this, there is no doubt, but that's why they sold the IP to begin with. But to presume people would only get this because they think Fallout 3 is in there (which seems to be Bethesda's case) is just preposterous and egocentric imo. "

have you ever been to a shop that sales games before? "

" @toast_burner said:

" @ryanwho said:

It just seems kind of cynical to me. Its not like some mom will walk into a Gamestop and see this and be like "oh, my boy wanted Fallout 3 and here it is!" because no major game retail outlets even sell PC games, really. How stupid do you think people are, I mean really. If you're smart enough to find a store that still sells hardcopies of PC games I think you can crack this egg. Interplay is getting a boost from Bethesda's Fallout 3 by releasing this, there is no doubt, but that's why they sold the IP to begin with. But to presume people would only get this because they think Fallout 3 is in there (which seems to be Bethesda's case) is just preposterous and egocentric imo. "

have you ever been to a shop that sales games before? "

Have I been to Gamestop and Wal Mart? Yes. "

" @ryanwho said:

" @toast_burner said:

" @ryanwho said:

It just seems kind of cynical to me. Its not like some mom will walk into a Gamestop and see this and be like "oh, my boy wanted Fallout 3 and here it is!" because no major game retail outlets even sell PC games, really. How stupid do you think people are, I mean really. If you're smart enough to find a store that still sells hardcopies of PC games I think you can crack this egg. Interplay is getting a boost from Bethesda's Fallout 3 by releasing this, there is no doubt, but that's why they sold the IP to begin with. But to presume people would only get this because they think Fallout 3 is in there (which seems to be Bethesda's case) is just preposterous and egocentric imo. "

have you ever been to a shop that sales games before? "

Have I been to Gamestop and Wal Mart? Yes. "

They sell pc games at Wal Mart. I'm sure some Gamestops. As I mentioned, I saw a mess of copies at Target. So your assertion that you have to some kind of hardcore pc gamer to find boxed copies of games is false. "

I think when it comes right down to it, Bethesda wants to create a Fallout MMO and have complete control over the entire franchise. The mmo is really going nowhere under Interplay and they haven't produced anything in a decade. Bethesda doesn't feel that Interplay is up to the task to do what needs to be done with this franchise, in my opinion. 
 
Bethesda should take hold of the entire franchise, but I don't think sueing them is the right approach. Perhaps buying them out would be the better option.

Parents don't know what numbers mean because parents are stupid. 3 and trilogy might as well be the same word because parents are half retard and don't know the difference. Surely millions of parents purchased this trilogy by mistake when they meant to get Bethesda's year old game. Surely.