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#1  Edited By hondorondo
@Sitoxity said:

@hondorondo: I'll explain this so you can easily understand. Complimentary = "Fits together well."

@nk19: First time I've ever flagged a post, and I've done it twice. I never thought I'd see shit like that here.

SOURCE? you are ridiculous!
 
here one by me:
"In color theory, two colors are called complementary if, when mixed in the proper proportion, they produce a neutral color (grey, white, or black)."
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementary_color
 
so wikipedia is on my side as it seems
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#2  Edited By hondorondo
@Sitoxity said:

@hondorondo: It's understandable why you're still arguing this since you're not a native speaker, because thanks to you posting the definition, you proved my point. GG.

man you are really a troll right?
 
I explained the definition. you could even say that the word was called this cause of the use of this idea in color mixing. neutral grey = 2 complementary colors. but as logical as this would be the chroma one. I guess its both.
 
But no art teaching ever... nowhere ... teaches that complementary colors fit BETTER together than any others^^ thats just retarded ad naive. please give me some sources! 
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#3  Edited By hondorondo
@Sitoxity said:

@hondorondo: I never said that you have to depend on complimentary contrasts. You are contradicting yourself if you are saying "complimentary colours" don't go together better than non complimentary colours. You do realize what the term, and word, complimentary means, right?

You've already been proven wrong by another Art student by the name of CrossTheAtlantic. Please stop this nonsense now. You're making yourself look like a fool.

CrossTheAtlantic proofed me wrong by saying "he is wrong.. i studied art at college!"
 
great argument!
 
"You do realize what the term, and word, complimentary means, right?"
 
 
Actually im no native speaker so I misused the word complimentary.  Its complementary colors not complimentary.
so complimentary means:
 1. expressing a compliment; praising or approving: 
or
2 given or supplied free of charge:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/complimentary
 
in that case it would kinda be weird^^
 
 
but its:
 
complementary
 

  • 1 combining in such a way as to enhance or emphasize the qualities of each other or another:
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/complementary
 
 
and this origins from the fact that these colors have the highest possible contrast in hues what makes their chroma to appear richer.

And not cause they look awesome together^^ lol you are so naive.
 
 
 
 "You are contradicting yourself if you are saying "complimentary colours" don't go together better than non complimentary colours. "
 
Every hue goes as good together with any other hue. It depends on the chroma, values and everything else if the end result of the colors look different than intended.
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#4  Edited By hondorondo
@Sitoxity said: 

@hondorondo: When the two people in this thread that have agreed on the same theories, and both of them have studied Art (in some form) you have no grounds to say they're wrong. Clearly they're not just teaching it over here in the UK, and it's something even full Art courses teach. Get off your imaginary high horse and accept that, in this case, you are wrong.

Dude, you didnt say anything other than blue and orange and red/gren fit together. your reason was the color wheel. 
 
I instead used the right terms for colors and explained all my arguments elaborately. 
 
I told you that what you are mentioning were complimentary colors and that this only states that these colors have the highest possible contrast in hues.
 
But you kept insisting that these colors fit better together than non complimentary colors.
 
I again explained that you may refer to composition, that a high contrast next to lower contrasting thongs draws in the attention.
 

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@Sitoxity said:

@hondorondo: Thanks for explaining what you mean, I understand what you meant now. :)

You're right about the contrast, but while I was learning about design, especially in logos, we got taught about using opposites like the ones I mentioned in the colour wheel. It's not nonsense for these colours to go well together, because it's actually why a lot of these combinations exist and why they're used a lot in marketing. Battlefield 3 uses the blue and orange so much like a lot of other things because it draws attention, among other things. I was being pretty vague about it and didn't go into detail, but there is something to it. Might not be what you've been taught/learned, but it's used a lot in design and art.

Its called contrast! If you have a wall full of non complimentary colors (and no other high contrast) and somewhere in there there is a red green hitting each other you got a high contrast in hues.. what does this do? It makes your eye more ready to focus there.  There are many different ways of creating contrasts. Either with shapes, values, hues(like explained), chroma, different systems etc.   One of the basics of compositions is also to build a hierarchy of contrasts and by building that you get a path for the eyes to move.  But the contrast itself has isolated nothing to do with successful colors or not^^.  Its the relation of everything in the painting to each other that even creates the appearance of an seemingly isolated color somewhere and that makes it obvious that some miniscule thing like having a complimentary contrast of the hues isnt really giving much away about the success.  Hope I make sense^^
 
 

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@hondorondo: Exactly! That's why they go together well and are used so much in art and design. :) Draws you in and makes you focus on those first.


 
so basically you kept saying  that you need to have the highest possible contrast in hues to have good colors.
 
It could be that you are also referring to the fact that two colors, that are complementary in hue, next to each other make each others chroma appear more intense but in your vague arguments there wasnt even anything mentioned about chroma.
 
you still seem not to be aware of that a painting can have a lot of other contrasts than just the contrast in hues.
 
here some examples:
 
you could also have  contrasts in:
 
value
 
chroma
 
shapes
 
edges
 
systems
 
narrative

etc.
 
 
So even if you claim "contrasts are needed to make good paintings" your rule of having to depend on complimentary contrasts is ridiculous! There are so many ways of creating contrast.... not just complimentary colors!
 
But even this claim would be wrong.. or would you say that for example monet creates bad paintings^^? 
 

 Just look at 10 arbitrary masterpieces and you will be shocked to find out that the hue contrast isnt always there and not the holy key for successful colors. You are just not understanding what these rules are made for^^.
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this is kinda like the coloring-in topic

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the metagame with anal^^

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#7  Edited By hondorondo
@Musou said:

My IQ has probably dropped something like 50 points reading this thread. Also, it seems pretty clear that hondorondo and spiderslayerterminate are the same person, at least in the posts on this topic.

Anyway, OP is a troll and a total child, and...

@Sitoxity: You're probably the most patient person in the universe, seriously, that was some Buddha-grade Zen shit on your part.

nono im not^^ really.. im not 
 
@CrossTheAtlantic said:
@Sitoxity: As someone who does go to an art school, and has for some reason read this entire thread, your patience is astounding. 
 
Also you're right about color. 
 
no he isnt :)
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#8  Edited By hondorondo
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@Mr_Skeleton said:

I was going to make a few points here, but it's obvious that no one here is listening to anyone here and the immaturity levels here went through the roof and if you read this thread from the start you can see the OP's slow but obvious decent into maddens paranoia, so I will just leave and pretend like I never read this thread and maybe someday my braid will be able to recover from all the stupidity and hate that is going around in here.

So true, there is no making sense of it now. This should have been locked by now.
its sitoxitys fault!
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@Sitoxity: I saw it... its pretty awesome.. you are right... good game
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#10  Edited By hondorondo
@Sitoxity said:

@hondorondo: Again, not a troll, so stop it with that. You sound like a child.

Second, I have gone into detail about why contrasting colours like the ones I mentioned go together. Go read through all my posts if you don't believe me. You cannot tell me I'm wrong when it's a fundamental fact that you agreed with multiple times that they do, indeed, go well together. They wouldn't teach this in art classes if it wasn't the case.

I'm not pointing out inconsistencies if you don't see them, because honestly if you don't see them you never will.

please tell me why the fit together so amazingly and it would also be a pleasure to hear about my inconsistencies!