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#1 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@hermes said:

Is any of you familiar with the work of Tabata? I never played the games he previously worked...

He directed the PSP Final Fantasy VII prequel, Crisis Core. It was the best thing to come out of the FF7 spinoffs.

#2 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

They are both equally good. I used to like Papa Johns more, but when they changed their recipe they caught up. Dominos does a surprisingly good pan pizza.

#3 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@hunter5024 said:

@slag: I'm sure it is, but I think you can make the "3 game investment" pitch without necessarily continuing that series. If they removed the references to the previous game, and tweaked the story a little, they could have easily just made 13-2 part of the main series. It probably would have sold better for it too. It wouldn't have mattered that they played and looked similar either because that's the way Final Fantasy has always been.

Part of the reason XIII-2 was made was as a response to the design criticisms that XIII received, particularly in regards to the linear maps, lack of explorable towns, and the nature of the leveling system, among other aspects. They also tinkered around with other things like the conversation system and such, and in general wanted to make a XIII game that would appeal to parts of the audience turned off by the technical criticisms of the original. Though, they obviously had to have come up with the idea for Lightning Returns in some form early on in development, given that the game ends on a cliffhanger.

And while I'm crazy and totally appreciated 13-2 for it, I think it was a really misguided idea to fix those criticisms in a direct sequel. If people didn't like the first one, why would they play the second? Not only that, but because it's a direct sequel, that puts off newcomers because they'd feel like they have to play the one people complain about to get to the one that's supposed to fix its problems. If this had just been Final Fantasy XIV starring Kerah, it almost certainly would have been more successful. As for when they came up with the idea for Lightning Returns, I can't say, but if they'd pictured the tepid sales reaction to 13-2, I doubt that game would exist.

#4 Edited by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@slag: I'm sure it is, but I think you can make the "3 game investment" pitch without necessarily continuing that series. If they removed the references to the previous game, and tweaked the story a little, they could have easily just made 13-2 part of the main series. It probably would have sold better for it too. It wouldn't have mattered that they played and looked similar either because that's the way Final Fantasy has always been.

#5 Edited by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@hunter5024 said:

@teddie said:

@thatpinguino said:

The amount of assets, world building. and capital that went into that game forced Square to keep making sequels and reusing existing resources.

So you're saying FFXV trilogy confirmed?

A quote has already come out about how they don't think of 15 as a standalone game.

Given the history of the franchise since FFX (X-2, the DS FFXII sequel, the XIII trilogy, the FFIV sequel, the various FFVII sequels/prequels), I'd say that it would be naive at this point to expect Final Fantasy XV to stand on its own.

Naive is one word for it. I prefer optimistic. Why plan on making sequels if you have no idea how well received your game will be? You could reuse assets without making the game a sequel. Instead they're committing to these sprawling epics before the game's even out the gate. I was hoping the disappointing sales for the 13 franchise would have taught them that lesson, but apparently not.

#6 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@teddie said:

@thatpinguino said:

The amount of assets, world building. and capital that went into that game forced Square to keep making sequels and reusing existing resources.

So you're saying FFXV trilogy confirmed?

A quote has already come out about how they don't think of 15 as a standalone game.

#7 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@theblue said:

It looks like they dropped a Japanese boy band into the Midwest and there are also giant monsters and knights.

I still don't know how I feel about playing as a J-pop boy band on a road trip.

Also, is that girl in the trailer Stella? Man, they sure have changed her design in the 35 years it took for this to be made.

haha. I'm still a bit torn on that, too. The Japanese boy band angle continues to bother me a bit. Like they took the Sephiroth lackies from Advent Children and made them the main characters in a game. I hope your cast will end up being more diverse than current indications. Perhaps the car and boy band are just part of the early game.

I certainly hope so. The Final Fantasy games I love are full of crazy and unique characters. Like a dude with a gun for a hand, a living magical weapon, a fire tiger thing, a ninja, a yeti, and even a cross-dressing pirate. One of the things I was disappointed about in the 13 series was you didn't get anybody like that. At the very least I want to see some girls in the party.

#8 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

@xyzygy said:

@hunter5024 said:

Maybe this will end up being for the best, but no matter how much people might dislike Nomura, it's hard to be optimistic about a director change in the middle of a project. 12 was basically ruined by it in my opinion. Hajime Tabata is an interesting choice for his replacement, I'm willing to entertain the idea after he directed Crisis Core, but I have to wonder how well his vision and Nomura's vision will blend. I feel like a lot is riding on this game, especially given that recent quote about how they're using it to judge the viability of console rpgs. It's really baffling to see changes like that given what this game represents, though just about everything Square does these days is kind of baffling to me.

Despite making me worry about 15, I suppose this is at least good news for Kingdom Hearts 3. Personally I'm more interested in the former though, and I wish its fate was a little more secure.

That is generally true, but FFXV is hardly in the middle of development. There is already a demo planned and will apparently release next year - so within the next 4 - 16 months. Considering by the time it will be released it'll be 10 years in development, switching directors on year 9 is definitely not the same as year 4, 5 or 6. Who knows, maybe Nomura's stuff is already done on this game and he can now focus on KH3.

10 minutes ago, I probably would have argued about it coming out next year, but judging by that trailer I just watched maybe you're right. It could just be that he's putting the finishing touches on it. Personally I doubt development on this game has been earnest for more than 3 or 4 years though, and I'm not so certain it won't be a 2016 game, so that's a little more troubling. However if you're right, then this probably isn't a big deal.

If this is the case though, I do hope they give Tabata his own shot at the main Final Fantasy series though, because he probably won't be able to leave much of a mark on this one.

#9 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

Regardless of whatever misgivings I have about the story and gameplay, I think I'd have to play this for the graphics alone.

#10 Posted by Hunter5024 (5683 posts) -

I was hoping we could stop talking about these games now that we're hopefully done with them forever.