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#1 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@hunter5024 said:

Its nice to hear that it probably won't be a handheld game. They were speculating on 8-4 just last week that it would be a 3ds game because its a longstanding tradition to release DQ on the platform where the most people can play it. Honestly I don't expect much. I just hope it's a beautiful game with memorable characters that keeps its RPG elements intact. It seems like every RPG battle system for an entire generation has been some overly complicated, free movement, AI dependent, pseudo real-time clusterfuck.

Every non-MMO Dragon Quest game has retained the same battle system since the original. I doubt that you have much to worry about on that front, though I don't agree with your general assessment on the genre..

I mean I could name like 5 examples if you want. The reason I worry that it would happen to Dragon Quest now is because they basically skipped the generation where it came in vogue, having released their last proper game on DS where that kind of combat probably wouldn't have been possible.

#2 Edited by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

So now I can't delete my comments until 30 days after posting. @rorie did you ever figure out whether something can be done about this?

#3 Edited by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

Its nice to hear that it probably won't be a handheld game. They were speculating on 8-4 just last week that it would be a 3ds game because its a longstanding tradition to release DQ on the platform where the most people can play it. Honestly I don't expect much. I just hope it's a beautiful game with memorable characters that keeps its RPG elements intact. It seems like every RPG battle system for an entire generation has been some overly complicated, free movement, AI dependent, pseudo real-time clusterfuck.

#4 Edited by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

I believe I was a 10 year old in 5th grade. My family had just relocated back to Arizona after living in Oregon for a few years. We were living in a tiny town called Safford. By the time I woke up, both planes had already hit. My parents didn't explain what was going on, they just watched the news and yelled for us to hurry up and get ready. When I started to notice something weird was when my dad turned on the news for our car ride to school. He never listens to the news, it was weird that it wasn't music. The coverage was too scattered for a 10 year old to make sense of at this point, they weren't really covering it for newcomers.

I finally got to school still pretty clueless about what was going on. This was a tiny christian school held in a church (it wasn't my first choice of school I assure you). I was the only 5th grader in a class with 12 other students, between 3rd and 6th grade. When I got there none of the students were playing outside on the swings or merry go round. The classroom door was uncharacteristically open before class was ready to start. Only about half the students showed up that day, they were all sitting on the floor watching the tv in the corner of the room. When I saw the two towers with smoke rising in front of them I started to understand. We watched the news for a while, learning that the towers had collapsed. I remember a few videos of people running from the dust cloud. After talking with the other teachers ours decided to send us home. She said a short prayer with us, I remember her mentioning family a lot.

After that we waited outside, I think the teachers were concerned about us seeing stuff on the news that our parents didn't want us to see. We talked about it with each other, tried to figure out who had done it. A lot of the speculation was ridiculous, though one of the kids guessed Arabs. I didn't know what those were (it did not take long for me to learn). My grandpa picked us up, I remember during the car ride he said some things my young mind considered pretty profound, but unfortunately I don't remember them. Eventually we made it home. The news had consumed basically every channel, and it was still a little too grown up for me. I tried to pay attention for a while but eventually I just gave up and played some Majora's Mask. I was in Snowhead Temple. Made a lot of progress that day, because my brothers never wanted to play. My friend from Oregon called at one point. He just sounded glad that someone else knew what was going on, none of the kids at his school had any idea. He sounded pretty shaken up, really everyone did but me. I knew there was some incredible stuff going on, but I was too young to process any of it.

The next day at school we held hands in a ring around the flag and prayed. A few days later the principal asked us to do it again, because the paper wanted a picture of the children praying around the flag. That still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It felt so disingenuous.

#5 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

I am intending to buy these games friday, so I hope whatever this new collection is sucks.

#6 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

I ... I stopped listening to the Bombcast. I dunno. That show is specifically and crucially missing Ryan Davis. It felt like any time I turned it on I'd get a 15 minute conversation about baked beans or how to repair a dishwasher or the most irrelevant shit out there and it just wasn't making me laugh like it used to. I dunno.

Kinda old comment, but have you tried listening since Brad took over hosting duties a few weeks ago? I was having a lot of the same problems as you, but with Brad hosting the podcast stays on topic better. Dan being on also gives it a lot of energy, and Jeff has been a lot funnier now that he doesn't have to host.

#7 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

@xyzygy: I would argue that for every element they expanded upon, there was one they diminished, but I suppose were just arguing over the meaning of evolution. If you personally prefer skill over strategy than 13 is the game for you, but personally I wish they went the other way with it.

#8 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

@xyzygy said:

@demoskinos said:

It baffles me how many people seemingly want the jrpg genre to be stuck in turn based combat conventions. XIII was great because it innovated on the combat. No longer was it simply click a thing dk an action you had to be active in switching party roles as well as figuring out how to stagger/juggle enemies effectively. Going back to pure turn based combat would be a huge step back.

To the question I have to specific expectations other than that I hope they continue to innovate and make the game fun to play.

I know. Many other genres move beyond stuff they've already accomplished, but for some reason JRPG fans want their genre to have the same gameplay wrapped around a new story. No thanks.

How would you consider 13 an evolution though? The combat had a much tighter clock, which put more importance on timing, and that gave the system a more action feel. However in exchange for the precise timing you had to give up control of your other party members, and the actions you do choose to take are far more generalized. That gave you fewer options and led to a far less strategic game than say, Final Fantasy X. It was skill over strategy, and macro management over micromanagement. They didn't push the combat forward, the pendulum just swung in a different direction.

While I'm not saying this was necessarily bad (my problems with the combat in 13 stem more from the execution than the concept (every fight boiling down to hammering on a specific weakness, arbitrarily limiting the number of paradigms you can use...)) I do think it was just change for the sake of change. Or maybe just because it looks more visually impressive (I remember a quote about them wanting the combat to feel like you're in control of an Advent Children fight scene.) I suppose a visually impressive combat system is easier to market, but that seems like a pretty shitty thing to design your battle system around.

#9 Edited by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

I think games should be whatever they want. However if the audience hates a game because it's not fun, engaging, or interesting, then the developer doesn't really have any room to complain about it.

#10 Edited by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

I've intended to get through Metal Gear for years, I almost started my quest earlier this year when Ground Zeroes came out, but Metal Gear Scanlon put me over the edge. Bought Twin Snakes and beat it in like a day and a half. As soon as I get my ps3 back I'm going to get the HD collection. I intend to get through all of these games by the time Phantom Pain comes out.