iAmJohn's forum posts

#1 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@Coreymw said:

@FluxWaveZ: I suppose I'm grappling with the fact that games are violent and kids play games. Kids grow up. I know and have always been a person who says that games don't influence people and who they grow up to be. But at some point I have to wonder if replacing violence with non violence would make a difference. It may take hundreds or thousands of years, but would it make a difference?

There's two problems with what you're saying:

  1. The majority of games released every year are rated E. This is according to the ESRB themselves.
  2. The average age for people who play video games is somewhere in the low-30s. If most of the people buying and playing are adults, why not make games that deal with these kinds of themes that are made for adults?

Furthermore:

@Rolyatkcinmai said:

Without conflict there is no inherent narrative arc.

Not that conflict = combat, but you get my point.

This is also the truth. Conflict doesn't always need to mean violence and the fact that your interaction with most games is to cause violence speaks to the immaturity of storytelling in the medium, true, but conflict of some kind is how you drive most narratives, and as someone who thinks that narrative is important and wants to see it evolve beyond the generally limited scope most games take nowadays, that needs to remain.

#2 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@ryanwho said:

Ron Paul winning the nomination over "lock step handsome guy" A and B would be a fun surprise. Even if you don't plan on voting right for the election, everyone should consider voting for him just to screw with the preconcieved notions of a good candidate being "look good and stay on script".

You're fully aware you could say the same thing about Dennis Kucinich and not be voting for a complete idiot, right?

Plus, then we'd have a smoking fucking hot first lady to boot.

#3 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -
#4 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@zoner said:

The game's incredibly dull and repeittive. It's a top down Dynasty Warriors with a roll button, which is why I find it funny that the GB guys praise it so much.

I don't think you've actually played a Dynasty Warriors game.

#5 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -
@ajamafalous

@iAmJohn said:

Waiting for it to go on clearance is essentially the same thing as buying used, except neither the store nor the publisher/developer gets any money, whereas buying it used means the store gets money but not the publisher/developer.

How do you figure?

Because that's how the industry works.

Let's say I'm a game retailer and you're a publisher. You come to me with your new game that you think is going to be a big seller, and you'll sell it to me for $50 a copy. I buy ten, but I'm only able to sell three of them. Now I have seven games that I paid good money for and can't sell. Maybe you offer to buy back some of the games you sold me at a reduced price, or maybe you promise to sell me your next game at a discount; both are tactics many retailers use to deal with overshipping games. But at the end of the day, what it comes down to is that I'm going to drop the price on that game I paid $50 to a point where I'm selling it at a loss just to get it the hell out of my store, and I won't be buying any more copies of your game because lord knows I wasn't able to sell the other seven!

What I've just described is the relationship between publishers and retailers for a fair share of new games. Yes, you could argue that the used market complicates this, but what it generally comes down to is that waiting for a price drop largely has the same affect as buying used, unless we're talking about a game that just keeps selling and you'll always be able to find a new copy in your local store. When it comes right down to it, the argument for "giving money to the developers" is flawed, because if you really want to make sure of that, you will buy the game for full price the day it comes out, since that's one of the very few ways you can make sure to do that.
#6 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@Sir_Lizardman said:

Playing devil advocate here but I believe people are against used games because it is less money going to the less developers/publishers. The more money that goes to developers/publisher the more/better games they can make and the less likely the company will go bankrupt.

Personally I wait, 1 month - 1 year to buy games (unless i really want it) because the price untill the game on sale where i purchase it for $10-$30. Its funny because gamestop will still charge more for there used version then most games you can find on sale.

Unless you're buying a game that is selling well and the retailer will undoubtedly be buying new copies of it once they sell out their stock, what you're doing is just as bad as buying it used. The way these companies make money is by selling a ton of copies to these stores; if it doesn't sell well, the stores aren't going to buy more copies. Waiting for it to go on clearance is essentially the same thing as buying used, except neither the store nor the publisher/developer gets any money, whereas buying it used means the store gets money but not the publisher/developer.

And this is why the entire anti-used argument is so completely and utterly stupid.

#7 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@iAmJohn said:

@MattyFTM said:

The phrase "worse than piracy" generally gets used within the context of money lost to the gaming industry. People aren't saying that it's morally wrong like piracy, just that it hurts the industry. I agree, you own your games and are well within your rights to sell them, and other people are well within their rights to buy them, but ultimately it does reduce the amount of money developers receive. People argue that if you like games, you should support the industry and to do that you have to buy games new and not save a few pennies by buying it used.

The movie, music and book industries has had to deal with the used market for years and haven't fallen apart, nor have there ever been complaints of buying it used being equivalent to taking money out of the mouths of poor developers. As much as it doesn't matter to me since I buy almost all of my games new anyway, why is the games industry some sacred cow where people need to actively be discouraged from buying used copies? It's hypocrisy.

The game industry isn't as old as the other industries.

As if that makes it any less hypocritical.

#8 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@MattyFTM said:

The phrase "worse than piracy" generally gets used within the context of money lost to the gaming industry. People aren't saying that it's morally wrong like piracy, just that it hurts the industry. I agree, you own your games and are well within your rights to sell them, and other people are well within their rights to buy them, but ultimately it does reduce the amount of money developers receive. People argue that if you like games, you should support the industry and to do that you have to buy games new and not save a few pennies by buying it used.

The movie, music and book industries has had to deal with the used market for years and haven't fallen apart, nor have there ever been complaints of buying it used being equivalent to taking money out of the mouths of poor developers. As much as it doesn't matter to me since I buy almost all of my games new anyway, why is the games industry some sacred cow where people need to actively be discouraged from buying used copies? It's hypocrisy.

#9 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

@tsolless said:

@Laketown said:

well gamestop is a shitty store, so that may be part of it.

Why do people assume that you need to go through Gamestop? Are you so lazy that you have to use a middleman? Ebay, craigslist, friends and friends of, garage sales, flea markets, etc. There are sites to trade games as well if you are interested in that.

Because they're the easiest and most prominent store to deal with, so of course people turn their hatred of GameStop's shitty policies into a hatred of the used game market when there's a ton of better ways out there (Goozex, for example).

Also, no need to call names, dude.

#10 Posted by iAmJohn (6141 posts) -

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