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#1  Edited By IncredibleBulk92
BiggerBomb said:
*Drumroll* GiantBomb. Research, watch videos. I understand that video games are expensive these days, but that's no excuse for stealing it so you can "determine its true worth." If saying that helps you sleep at night, so be it. That doesn't make it right."
I understand what your saying here mate but, and I'm talking about PC game piracy specifically here, its nearly impossible to know for certain that a game will run at an acceptable level with a low-mid level non-gaming PC.  Company of Heroes, STALKER, Team Fortress 2 and Crysis are the last 4 games I was interested in getting for my PC.  Out of those Company of Heroes I tried the demo of, loved and bought it, Crysis I tried the demo of and it didn't run at an acceptable frame rate so I didn't buy it, Team Fortress 2 I tried on a free weekend and found it worked ok on the lowest settings.  The final game STALKER didn't have a demo at the time, I'm not certain it does now 2bh but I pirated that to try it and the framerate was unaceptable even at the lowest settings (I'm not even very fussy about fram rate) so I deleted the pirated copy and didn't buy the game.

I release I'm probably in the minority in that I pirate games almost exclusivly to test them on this old ass machine but I'd probably buy more games and almost never pirate games if A) there was a demo for EVERY game B) there was some sort of standardisation across PCs.  When you look at the miimum spec of a PC I have absolutely no idea what that means.  Is the minimum spec going to even get me through the tutorial at a decent frame rate?  I have no idea.  If I got my PC and it said on the front of the box that it was a level 2 for 2008 games or something and from I could go to a website and see what the game would look and run like on a level 2 machine built in 2008 or something along those lines people would be far more likely to buy games the were only moderately interested in that maybe they would have pirated before. 

Again maybe thats just me and my ignorance of PC gaming.  My main platform is the Xbox 360 which I know exactly what games will look like and how they will run due to reviews and demos not trial and error.  And for the record I've preordered Spore, I know that will run fantastically well on both my machines, so maybe lower emphasis on graphics and more emphasis on inovative gameplay is the answer.
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Ah fair enough, easy mistake I suppose.  I did sorta reply to it anyhow, their arrogant cocky A-holes. Thats the long and short I'm affraid :)


Here's something else to consider.  What do you think of pirating downloadable content?  There are plenty of guys out there cutting stuff out of games just so they can charge for it a few days after release.  Horse Armour in Oblivion, extra planes in Ace Combat 6, EA even took cheat codes out of the 360 version of the last Tiger Woods game just so they could charge for them even though they were included on the disc on other consoles.  In this case its more like they are trying to steal from us, personally I could care less about 99% of DLC and the only ones I'm interested in I pay for.  But when companies are cutting stuff off their games just to charge for it I always consider pirating it on principle lol.

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#3  Edited By IncredibleBulk92
Jayge said:
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Jayge said:
"Yeah- most of the "crack" groups and other people are just petty people doing it because they think it's funny. And the other pirates need them for their services.

In fact every single crack I've downloaded has come with a read-me that says something to the effect of  "If you've enjoyed this game go out and buy it, we did!"  A majority aren't cracking games because they've downloaded it for a laugh, their taking away the requirement of having the disc in the drive to play the game.  Well thats why I download cracks anyway."
It's your call. I've seen cracks that said "Take that, you stupid fucks!". You never know what you'll get, heh."
Wow, I've been cracking things for years and I've never seen anything like that, it wouldn't make sense for a group to tell its fans they were stupid fucks so I think your bending the truth a little there.  Most people seem to be like me and just want to not have to switch discs all the time,  I think thats fair enough.  Of course theres always the people who aren't interested in that and just do it for the challenge, they can come off as kind of arrogant I suppose.
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You can't say piracy is a 100% bad thing all the time, its impossible to find copys of some older games that I enjoyed and lost the disc of a long time ago.  Ever heard of Startopia?  Looked for it for ages in shops around where I live.  Eventually I found out that the developer went out of business and so I pirated it out of frustration and had a great time playing it.  If I see it in a store I fully intend on buying it.

Also theres the opposite end of the spectrum.  Crysis, to be fair it does have a demo so its a bad example but my PC could only be described as low range at best so pirating it could be the only way I could have found out if it works properly on my computer. Again in this case Crysis does have a demo, I tried it and my computer is just not powerful enough to run it on its lowest settings so the demo saved me money.  If there wasn't a demo I would have pirated the game just to see if it runs properly and decided if I wanted to buy the game based on its performance there.

For the most part however I don't pirate, Company of Heroes and World In Conflict are fantastic games but without their online play their severely gimped so I bought those too.  The way I see it piracy is far too easy, buying things legally is complicated sometimes.  People who pre-ordered Bioshock know what I mean, the required online activation crashed on launch day so people were left unable to play for a few days, pirates had finished the game before the honest purchasers saw their first loading screen.  Spore and Mass Effect for the PC are allowed 3 installations Maximum.  Thats crazy, what happens when I go over my 3 installs after reinstalling XP or upgrading my PC?  Do I buy a new game at full price or get unlimited installs for free?  I'm not endorsing piracy here but publishers need to pull their fingers out and think make PC games easier.  Every game should have a demo and there should be some sort of place to buy any PC game, demo or trailer in just one place similar to the Xbox Live Marketplace.  These things alone would reduce piracy in my opinion.



Jayge said:

"Yeah- most of the "crack" groups and other people are just petty people doing it because they think it's funny. And the other pirates need them for their services.

In fact every single crack I've downloaded has come with a read-me that says something to the effect of  "If you've enjoyed this game go out and buy it, we did!"  A majority aren't cracking games because they've downloaded it for a laugh, their taking away the requirement of having the disc in the drive to play the game.  Well thats why I download cracks anyway.
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Ah the chicken kicker!  That was so fun in the first game

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#6  Edited By IncredibleBulk92

Count yourself lucky if you live in the US.  This "cheap" offer converts to about 70 USD.

Its cheap for us in the Uk who would usually pay about £10 extra for a special edition which I think is about $20 extra

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Just thought you guys would be interested, the limited edition of Fable 2 is the same price in Zavvi as the regular edition is pretty much anywhere else.  Um I've got the link in one of my blog's I can't be bothered to copy and paste it right now... Maybe I will later.  £38 for the lot.

One problem is that I'm pretty sure that Zavvi aren't doing the Pub Games pre-order bonus, unless it come to me in the future sometime.  That doesn't really bother me.  I don't care about raising money before I play the game.  Kinda defeats the point of playing the game imo.  Ah well guess its up to you if its really worth the money.

Oh and does anybody know how reliable Zavvi are at fulfilling preorders?  Am I likely to get my copy on the day it comes out or a month later?

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Yea well I'm using an iPod Touch too, thought I'd made that clear... nope. I didn't. Never mind. Ah well I;m sure they'll fix some of it with a patch in the future.  To be fair the patch they did release reduced the amount of crashes by like 50%

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I remember the servers being dead when I played it like a month after launch but I imagine this is the sort of game that keeps a small hardcore crowd around for a long while.  Don't think I'd go back because of the fact that people could buy a huge advantage on the marketplace before MS cracked down on that.

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#10  Edited By IncredibleBulk92
BiggerBomb said:
"If you watch any of the videos on the official websites the game looks extremely unrealistic in terms of physics, vehicles, and all around gameplay. "

Dude what the hell are you talking about?  Thats the idea!

Oh and yes there were civilians in the first, yes you could kill them and yes I'm a little gutted you can't kill them in this.  Why would they do that?  Give us cash or reputation hits but allow us to call a nuke on a city and have it destroy everything.  It would suck to do that and not kill the civilians too :'(