@danryckert the questions you ask about the NYC of yore would be answered if you ever watched some Law and Order. The old joke is that at the time, the NYC of real life was more dangerous than the one on TV which had people being murdered every single week, and now the one on TV is probably more dangerous than the NYC of real life.
Also fuck Giuliani. Any goodwill he had has been undone by his decade of presidential campaigns focused solely on fearmongering and 9/11 references.
I don't know man, the guy REALLY cleaned up New York in a way that can't be overshadowed by some crummy campaigning. Like Manhattan used to be a dangerous neighborhood - thats nuts to think about today.
Hmm, I get you. I might just be too young to fully grasp it, but like...I get it, this place used to be dangerous and now it's much less so, but the "Broken Windows" and Zero Tolerance stuff was often just a smokescreen for cop bullshit and organized attacks against the poor and also the black population, a la "Stop and Frisk". There's no guarantee that it was actually the reason why NYC got "better", and if anything, the evidence suggests that the cleanliness of NYC was a result of programs put in place by previous mayors, not Giuliani. He's the Joe Torre to Ed Koch's Buck Showalter, coasting on his predecessor's success.
Also I just think Giuliani is a scummy dude who didn't give a shit about the people. He cracked down on the mafia because he had an Italian name and couldn't have people thinking he had mob ties, even though he definitely did.
Would just like to add in, fuck Rudy Giuliani, his "America's Mayor" bullshit has always been just that, bullshit.
He is a cancerous, race baiting, sexist little shit, but hey, making sure Times Square can have a second TGI fridays and being all law and order makes up for how he treated (and still treats a talking head) civil liberties like a disease
Man, this makes me want to get a crew for this. Like Jeff I had a crew of 5-6 people for Terraria and it was just real fun, one of the best multiplayer experiences I've ever had
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