Izbaadin_Islamabad

You should be more outraged that she let the baby be around a city with cars and asphalt, stuff like that is really not healthy.

@TheSeductiveMoose said:

Don't know the name in english but it is supposed to be quite good.

Yeah, "When the raven flies" and "Shadow of the raven" are both classics well worth seeing.

Is Brad the colorblind one? It would explain a lot. The color palette is a crime against people with fully working eyes.

@MURDERSMASH: Don't be sad, he'll live on in our wolfshirts.

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Izbaadin_Islamabad said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

The funding shows that that a lot of people care about it. At least 45,000 people so far. You do realise that the HTC One X is a hot seller and so is the Google Nexus 7? Both use the Tegra 3. You're trying so desperately to shape a vision of failure here, it's sad how desperate you are. Android is currently outselling iOS devices. Android has more apps than iOS does now.

Not related, but did you know that "Springtime for Hitler" is a fake musical which was part of a real musical comedy which is one of my most cherished movies of all time? Did you also know that there are people smarter and more worldly than you? No? Shocking. Oh wait, you were trying to be clever and make some vague reference to a tax fraud. I think I've found your themesong though:-

"One and one's two/ Two and two's four/ I feel so bad 'cause I'm losin' the war!"

Giantbomb didn't have a Kickstarter, but they did have community funding drives. It's amazing what you can learn. Hey, I never asked you, why are you here? Do you play games?

Yes, I know what Springtime for Hitler is, that's why I brought it up. And it was defrauding investors as well, remember that part? Not that I'm saying they're doing that, they probably believe in their product despite what pesky reporters, journalists, consumers and developers say. Speaking of, have you seen Field of Dreams?

And 45000 people is not a profitable or notable userbase unless it's some kind of niche iPhone-accessory. Imagine if a game had an attach rate of 1:1 and it only sold 45000 copies, how pathetic would that be? The first week this device might be available, how do you think sales will go compared to the first week of sales of a new iPad? Will it sell 50% as well? 10%? 1%? 0.1%?

And shame on you for trying to pull white privilege and claim I can't be worldly or smart just because I was born in Pakistan. Shame on you.

Your name defines where you were born now? Interesting. I know a dude called Wazeem born in Australia. I also know a Monica who was born in Nepal and a Sri born in Jamaica. You are getting desperate even trying to play a race card.

The thing about The Producers is that they didn't believe in their production, but it succeeded despite their expectations and that got them in trouble, so either you're being clever despite yourself or you're being stupid because you didn't understand the story. Field of Dreams now is it? Drop the silly jabs. This isn't a movie, it's a product, with very real technology, a very real market and a very real team of talented people behind it.

Ouya's at 45K people now, with 20 days to go on the Kickstarter, predictions see this kickstarter ending at 40million with 10 times the users of right now. Even if it's half that, that's a sizeable launch audience for a product which already has Indie developer support and at least 30 launch titles made specifically for the hardware.

You keep predicting failure when everything else in reality talks otherwise. This isn't an iPad. Why are you comparing it to an iPad. It's a console for Indie Developers.

Shame on you, actually. Why is Ouya's success such a burden to you? You need to be more upfront.

Do you think it's necessary for me to declare my birth and standard before I make a post, like in oldey white times, just so you don't make some n-word joke in the wrong company forum? Seriously? The internets reach is global, and people emigrate, you missed that part but you think Tegraz is fed to every child on the planet? Oh and you're talking about The Producers, did you know there was a movie before they made a musical that was turned into a movie? Your klan hood is showing, my dear.

Also, that's not predictions, you can even ask that service provider about if they're doing predictions and they'll say "hell no!".

But if your bigot reality wants to compete with actual reality we can bet money on it. But not in Ron Paul-funbucks/Bitcoins please. My money says, less than three million sold within a year of release, while biggest selling title won't sell more than 80k - you up for that?

@SeriouslyNow said:

The funding shows that that a lot of people care about it. At least 45,000 people so far. You do realise that the HTC One X is a hot seller and so is the Google Nexus 7? Both use the Tegra 3. You're trying so desperately to shape a vision of failure here, it's sad how desperate you are. Android is currently outselling iOS devices. Android has more apps than iOS does now.

Not related, but did you know that "Springtime for Hitler" is a fake musical which was part of a real musical comedy which is one of my most cherished movies of all time? Did you also know that there are people smarter and more worldly than you? No? Shocking. Oh wait, you were trying to be clever and make some vague reference to a tax fraud. I think I've found your themesong though:-

"One and one's two/ Two and two's four/ I feel so bad 'cause I'm losin' the war!"

Giantbomb didn't have a Kickstarter, but they did have community funding drives. It's amazing what you can learn. Hey, I never asked you, why are you here? Do you play games?

Yes, I know what Springtime for Hitler is, that's why I brought it up. And it was defrauding investors as well, remember that part? Not that I'm saying they're doing that, they probably believe in their product despite what pesky reporters, journalists, consumers and developers say. Speaking of, have you seen Field of Dreams?

And 45000 people is not a profitable or notable userbase unless it's some kind of niche iPhone-accessory. Imagine if a game had an attach rate of 1:1 and it only sold 45000 copies, how pathetic would that be? The first week this device might be available, how do you think sales will go compared to the first week of sales of a new iPad? Will it sell 50% as well? 10%? 1%? 0.1%?

And shame on you for trying to pull white privilege and claim I can't be worldly or smart just because I was born in Pakistan. Shame on you.

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Izbaadin_Islamabad: Well, I think you're conflating a lot of things to try and shape an 'evil' story here.

The Transformer Prime has issues which I mentioned, while it's predecessor sold well and its two following units both seem to be selling well. That said, none of those issues are ANYTHING AT ALL to do with the Tegra 3 chipset. By all accounts Tegra 3 is an extremely powerful chipset for a Wifi mobile device (and equally for a 3G device, Nvidia are yet to sign a 4G signal licensing deal). So I fail to see the connection you're trying to make with Asus' failings wrt Transformer Prime and Nvidia's chipset. They are two wholly separate companies and as I said before Tegra 3 is being used by HTC in the One X and elsewhere too, including the OUYA. The point of the video was to show you that its Geforce ULP 12core is actually quite powerful, that's all.

The other issue you're talking about is a funding discussion where there is certainly some lack of clarity in the way you seem to be addressing them, but the article you reference doesn't agree with you:-

"And let’s be clear – just as the enthusiasm for Ouya upon its unveiling was disproportionate in its adulation so too has the backlash to that been a bit heavy handed.

Claims that Ouya amounts to nothing more than a ‘scam’ are probably a bit strong (that statement could yet be proved incorrect, of course). But questions about the validity and, in particular, the security of an openly hackable Android platform designed for a TV and joypad are spot on."

That's a little different from the sinister idea that you're trying to shape. The truth is a lot more banal:-

"The cold truth is that corporations live by PR and bad PR can sometimes involve lies. And despite its claims of open development and rights for workers and social evolution, Ouya is a moneymaking business. Or it at least hopes to be."

Businesses do things for reasons best known to themselves and sometimes, especially in these internet gossip centric times, PR slip ups can be misread and utterly misunderstood. Uhrman may well be trying to avoid asking for more money or she may be asking for money outside of Kickstarter, we don't know. The thing is, UNLIKE THE PENNY ARCADE SITUATION or even what happened at Giantbomb (you know, the place we're talking together through), OUYA hasn't sold anything yet, both of those organisations did both in terms of product and advertising and they still went ahead and sought further funding to stay afloat. The internet survived the transition and so did their respective audiences, even though there were kerfuffles and some people complained and worried. If that happens to OUYA then, oh well, that's business, nothing is free in this world and setting up a new system and market is an expensive exercise. People who believe in OUYA and Android are cut of similar cloth to those who believed in Penny Arcade and Giantbomb; that Independent Ideas can flourish and grow and even remain authentic even though they have to be funded by Big Nasty Realities like advertising and corporate interests.

There are no demons here dude. Grow up. Nobody is forcing you to be involved in Ouya and frankly, if you think it's a scam, then don't invest. Simple. Bye now.

I don't think it's a scam in that they will take the money and run off to Mexico, not even the Phantom-dudes did that, I just think there's a very small market for this device and no one will care about it - developers and consumers alike. Tegra might be a good SoC but running Android few will ever know it. Not related, but have you seen Springtime for Hitler?

And I don't know anything about Giantbombs kickstarter and I don't know why you would drag poor old Penny Arcade's situation into all this, Bitch!Dyke!Faghag!Whore! has met enough resistance from you homophobes. Leave her alone.

@ItBeStefYo said:

@Izbaadin_Islamabad: Physics & Engineering, Sociology & criminology and basic university academic skills.

So, CSI: Unemployment?

@ItBeStefYo said:

Are you studying cartography or 18th-century agrarian businesses or something?

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Izbaadin_Islamabad: I don't know, to be honest. It had a lot of initial excitement, so much so that Asus had trouble fulfilling orders, then it was hampered by a ridiculous lawsuit (where an idiot on behalf of himself sued for Hasbro because of the Transformer Prime supposed Optimus Prime connection - the judge overseeing the case essentially laughed it out of court with a really funny speech talking about Autobots vs Decepticons, but it delayed deliveries all the same) and issues regarding the metal back cover which stifled the WiFi (still worked fine) and GPS (didn't work for many people) signals. Sales slowed as a result, but I think it sold reasonably well and is still on sale even now. Still, the Transformer line has been successful enough to have a few variants from the original Transformer (Tegra 2) through to the budget version of the Prime (TF300 which has an all plastic shell, avoiding the GPS interference issues, and a non Super IPS screen) and the previously mentioned Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 which has the 1920x1200 screen. Also, Asus manufactures the Google Nexus 7 7" Tablet which also uses the Tegra 3 chipset. The HTC One X (international edition) also uses the Tegra 3 as well. The point being that Tegra 3 is a very capable chipset and is used in a lot of devices. Oh cool, a new update from OUYA!

Because I read this:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/27/judge-asus-transformer-isnt-infringing-on-hasbros-trademark-and-asus-reveals-embarrassing-sales-stats/

So when court filings reveal that pre-orders for this poster child for Android 4 tablets (and it does look great) total a whopping 2,000 units as of a month ago, it’s kind of a letdown. That and 80,000 going to retailers worldwide make the device seem rather minor even in comparison to other Android products like the Nook Color and Kindle Fire.

There's also this:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ouya-nears-5m-on-kickstarter-but-are-the-lies-catching-up

Last week Ouya founder Julie Uhrman told MCV’s sister site Develop that the company would be seeking funding outside of Kickstarter.

“This is a really big undertaking and it’s going to be expensive. We’re looking for additional funds of money but more importantly we wanted to take it to Kickstarter regardless.”

That’s a direct quote. The words weren’t twisted to suit an agenda.

So why did Uhrman then tell Eurogamer in response to our story that: "Let me be clear, Ouya is not seeking additional funding outside of Kickstarter. Our intent in going to Kickstarter was to raise money that would take us from functional prototype to product on the market."

That’s a direct quote. Hopefully the words weren’t twisted to suit an agenda.

I totally understand why tegrazone don't reveal how many downloads they've had.

I also doubt the device will end up at 99 bucks, if it's even released in any capacity beyond "buy it from our website",