Things I always have to go through when setting up a new PC

Or, if not a new PC, a fresh OS install. 
  

  • Take old PC, get it up on network with all drives shared and ready for remote desktop
  • Migrate giant inbox containing 13 years of e-mail. 
  • Install iTunes, move library across to new PC, taking care not to reset ratings yet again 
  • Install Steam, download a bunch of games I'll rarely play 
  • Remember where the "show file extentions, I'm not an idiot" toggle is. 
  • Oh, I guess I'll need to migrate all my iPad apps over, too. Fun. 
  • Start gargantuan task of setting up FL Studio and hell of VSTs. *****THIS IS THE WORST ONE AND IT WILL TAKE MONTHS TO DO PROPERLY
  • Copy over all this video I've been collecting. 
  • Reinstall WinRAR 
  • Consider buying WinRAR 
  • Probably don't buy WinRAR, deal with nag screens
  • Vow to myself that I'll keep my desktop in check this time 
  • Immediately dump my old desktop onto new desktop in folder marked "old desktop" 
  • Go inside "old desktop" to find folder from previous PC marked "old desktop" 
  • Go deeper 
  • Find folder marked "old machine desktop"
  • Find music I wrote in 2005, try to figure out where to put it 
  • Leave it in its current place 
  • Consider using old PC as a media server for the rest of the house 
  • Give up on that pipedream and serve it all from the new PC 
  • Forget like five key things that prevent me from doing what I actually need to do on a PC 
  • Erase only copies of files that I'm pretty sure that I have backed up somewhere else
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Posted by Jeff

Or, if not a new PC, a fresh OS install. 
  

  • Take old PC, get it up on network with all drives shared and ready for remote desktop
  • Migrate giant inbox containing 13 years of e-mail. 
  • Install iTunes, move library across to new PC, taking care not to reset ratings yet again 
  • Install Steam, download a bunch of games I'll rarely play 
  • Remember where the "show file extentions, I'm not an idiot" toggle is. 
  • Oh, I guess I'll need to migrate all my iPad apps over, too. Fun. 
  • Start gargantuan task of setting up FL Studio and hell of VSTs. *****THIS IS THE WORST ONE AND IT WILL TAKE MONTHS TO DO PROPERLY
  • Copy over all this video I've been collecting. 
  • Reinstall WinRAR 
  • Consider buying WinRAR 
  • Probably don't buy WinRAR, deal with nag screens
  • Vow to myself that I'll keep my desktop in check this time 
  • Immediately dump my old desktop onto new desktop in folder marked "old desktop" 
  • Go inside "old desktop" to find folder from previous PC marked "old desktop" 
  • Go deeper 
  • Find folder marked "old machine desktop"
  • Find music I wrote in 2005, try to figure out where to put it 
  • Leave it in its current place 
  • Consider using old PC as a media server for the rest of the house 
  • Give up on that pipedream and serve it all from the new PC 
  • Forget like five key things that prevent me from doing what I actually need to do on a PC 
  • Erase only copies of files that I'm pretty sure that I have backed up somewhere else
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Posted by RelentlessKnight

yeah that could be irritating 

Posted by Wes

Move those '05 songs and delete old desktop. Do ittt.    

Posted by Hailinel

That last step is obviously the most important.

Posted by Tebbit

The key to setting up FL Studio is: don't set up any VSTs. Be realistic, all you need is the default Drum Kit 03 and a couple of hypersaws. 
 
Everything else is superfluous.

Posted by Siphillis

One of these days, I'm going to get organizised.

Posted by Moonshadow101

*Considers making a suggestion to improve your flow* 
 
*realizes you've probably heard them all before* 
 
Yeah, that sucks. 

Posted by wrecks

The Old Desktop & Old Bookmarks Folder Blues

Posted by Daveyo520

Do you really need every single one of those 13 years of emails?

Posted by bonbolapti

my old desktop is currently my jukebox. My only use for old technology is to play music. Win?

Edited by leejunfan83

Hilarity but you're lucky you don't have to install Symphobia or Garritan I love my software but I love my hardware more Access, Dave Smith, Roland, Yamaha, Korg, Akai, Numark all of there devices work as vst's now best of both worlds

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Posted by Sweep

I found this very useful ^__^

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Posted by JJWeatherman

  • Immediately dump my old desktop onto new desktop in folder marked "old desktop" 
  • Go inside "old desktop" to find folder from previous PC marked "old desktop" 
  • Go deeper     
  • Always be deeper.
Edited by Dante_the_Jedi

Sounds very like what I do.
Very much the

  •  Immediately dump my old desktop onto new desktop in folder marked "old desktop" 
  •  Go inside "old desktop" to find folder from previous PC marked "old desktop" 
  •  Go deeper  

  It is kinda in crazy that folder...I am always why do I have this....I did not know I had this. *close folder* I will do it later.
Posted by FunExplosions
  • Start up Mass Effect.
  • Did I forget to keep the saves?
  • I forgot to keep the saves
Posted by ahoodedfigure

Ugh. At least when moving from house to house there's a physical limit on the stuff you can misplace and the problems that can come up, although a new PC won't turn out to have rotten foundations.  Unless the new OS blows.  Never mind.

Posted by Nentisys

iTunes? that shit is bad for you and your computer.

Edited by DeF

I definitely feel you on that whole "huge inbox" thing...although mine only go back to 2004-ish, I think. But I just can't delete them ... digital hording is what it is. It's an issue

Posted by endaround
@FunExplosions said:
"
  • Start up Mass Effect.
  • Did I forget to keep the saves?
  • I forgot to keep the saves
"
Yeah, remember that many games are now dumping save files into the documents folder
Posted by nintendoeats

...Why don't you just take the HDD out of your old computer and put it in the new one? That would save a TON of time.

Posted by Daniel_Newton

You know how downloading Steam games is a pain in the ass when you're starting from scratch? 
Install steam, then overwrite/merge the Steam folder with the one from your old PC. Saves an ASS-LOAD of time.

Posted by damswedon
  • Reinstall WinRAR 
  • Consider buying WinRAR 
  • Probably don't buy WinRAR, deal with nag screens    
  • I go through this train of thought every time I get a new PC.
    Posted by YoThatLimp
    @nintendoeats said:
    " ...Why don't you just take the HDD out of your old computer and put it in the new one? That would save a TON of time. "
    That....is not really a great idea?
    Posted by nintendoeats
    @Metalideth said:
    " @nintendoeats said:
    " ...Why don't you just take the HDD out of your old computer and put it in the new one? That would save a TON of time. "
    That....is not really a great idea? "
    Why not? Its what I've always done, but if there is a good reason not to I'm all ears.
    Posted by BravoJade

    Consider 7-zip instead of WinRAR.  It's really great and totally free.  No more nag screens.

    Posted by YoThatLimp
    @nintendoeats said:
    " @Metalideth said:
    " @nintendoeats said:
    " ...Why don't you just take the HDD out of your old computer and put it in the new one? That would save a TON of time. "
    That....is not really a great idea? "
    Why not? Its what I've always done, but if there is a good reason not to I'm all ears. "
    I am not saying Windows wouldn't most likely run, but all of your old hardware drivers are already present. The modern OS can deal with stuff like that, but that copy of windows would be a crappily running mishmash of new and old drivers. It would be like putting your old oil into a brand new car IMO, makes no sense.
    Posted by Rasgueado

    The first step on the road to recovery is recognizing that you have a problem. We all need a little help sometimes. I'm sure one of the guys at Tested might be your sponsor if you ask them nicely enough.

    Posted by Ezekeilpurger

    Jeff you gotta get on that cloning hard drive software buddy.

    Posted by MisterMouse

    oh man that sounds like a blast!

    Posted by nintendoeats
    @Metalideth said:
    " @nintendoeats said:
    " @Metalideth said:
    " @nintendoeats said:
    " ...Why don't you just take the HDD out of your old computer and put it in the new one? That would save a TON of time. "
    That....is not really a great idea? "
    Why not? Its what I've always done, but if there is a good reason not to I'm all ears. "
    I am not saying Windows wouldn't most likely run, but all of your old hardware drivers are already present. The modern OS can deal with stuff like that, but that copy of windows would be a crappily running mishmash of new and old drivers. It would be like putting your old oil into a brand new car IMO, makes no sense. "
    I didn't mean running the OS off it, just copying files that way instead of over the network.
    Posted by skrutop

    You know, this would be a great case study for the Tested team.  I think we've all gone through the same steps when setting up a new PC.  I bet they could take something like this, apply some humor, and turn it into a great set of advice and walkthrough for people who want to improve how they set up new PCs.
     
    Me, I bought a Mac and now have a bunch of Office files that I'll never bother to update.  I also have lost my ratings in iTunes so many times that I don't even bother with them anymore.  It'd take me several years to go through my mp3s.

    Posted by Sanj

    I have gone through almost exactly this. 

    Posted by melcene
    @Metalideth said:
    " @nintendoeats said:
    " @Metalideth said:
    " @nintendoeats said:
    " ...Why don't you just take the HDD out of your old computer and put it in the new one? That would save a TON of time. "
    That....is not really a great idea? "
    Why not? Its what I've always done, but if there is a good reason not to I'm all ears. "
    I am not saying Windows wouldn't most likely run, but all of your old hardware drivers are already present. The modern OS can deal with stuff like that, but that copy of windows would be a crappily running mishmash of new and old drivers. It would be like putting your old oil into a brand new car IMO, makes no sense. "
    So you slave your old hard drive.  That's what I do.  My slave/secondary hard drive is an old hard drive just full of stuff I don't want to lose.  It's not for my OS or anything like that.  There's no problem with drivers because it's not software on that slave, just data. 
     
     
    Also:  I got a kick out of the Install WinRAR/Consider buying/etc.
    Edited by 234r2we232

    How do you not reset the ratings in iTunes? (I'm currently on a big rate everything for my iPod quest)

    Posted by SinGulaR

    Sounds familiar.
    Posted by Lokno

    Could you use 7-zip instead? That handles all the formats and it's open source.

    Posted by TheHT

    I recently got tired of all the old ass shit on my PC. Particularly pictures. I used to horde pictures from everywhere. Avatars, signatures, google images binges, anything. Such a good feeling to be all 'never looked at this since I put it on this new PC. *DELETE*'
     
    Just have to make sure you empty the recycling bin immediately before you start thinking about keeping some.

    Posted by MaddProdigy

    FL Studio is awesome! 
     
    Good luck with that list man, sounds like a really good time...

    Posted by KamikazeCaterpillar

    Installing music software takes forever. When I installed Logic Studio it probably took me close to 8 hours without any additional plugins( thanks in no small part to it hating outsider plugins). Keeping your desktop clean is always a pain in the ass though so good luck.

    Posted by FunExplosions
    @endaround said:
    " @FunExplosions said:
    "
    • Start up Mass Effect.
    • Did I forget to keep the saves?
    • I forgot to keep the saves
    "
    Yeah, remember that many games are now dumping save files into the documents folder "
    Yep. For whatever fucking reason...
    Posted by psoplayer
    @Lokno
    Could you use 7-zip instead? That handles all the formats and it's open source.
    I eventually gave up on winrar and did this. Haven't had a nag screen since!
    Posted by ThePickle

    Why would you ever rate music on iTunes? Jeff you a chump-ass-chump. 

    Posted by Peewi

    Completely disabling desktop icons and putting everything in the documents folder instead is a good way to not have a messy desktop. 
      
    With the start menu search in Vista and 7, the desktop is completely unneccesary for launching programs.
    Posted by TehBuLL

    You forgot to download the K-Lite Codec pack and VLC, just in case.  Also, you failed to mention migrating that one special hidden folder.  I call mine "New Folder" no one ever suspects that.  Right?

    Edited by l3illyl3ob
    • Spend 45 minutes on my other computer trying to find the exact version of the drivers I need  for my obscure PCI WiFi card, made by a defunct manufacturer.  
    I think newer versions of 7 are natively supporting it now, which is a plus.  On my aforementioned other computer, I go through a similar process regarding its ancient Soyo board every time I reinstall windows.
     

    @TehBuLL

    said:

    " You forgot to download the K-Lite Codec pack and VLC, just in case.  Also, you failed to mention migrating that one special hidden folder.  I call mine "New Folder" no one ever suspects that.  Right? "

    I just name it "porn".  Because really, who are you kidding?
    Edited by buckybit

    Here are maybe some useful tips for those of you, who share the pain with Jeff:

    • Always keep Windows OS partition separate from data - either install Win OS on a 2nd hdd or on a diff partition.
    • install The Windows® Automated Installation Kit (AIK) for Windows® 7  (or other Win OS)
    • Download and *install* all essential tools or - preferably - use Portable Tools (no install necessary!) 
    • 7zip does everything winrar does and some more - oh, snap! It's totally FREEWARE)
    • create Windows PE image with the AIK (see bullet point 2)
    • Install all the crap you think you need on the DATA hdd/partition
    • iTunes (I can't help anyone there - I don't use it. I think it's evil. Still might work because of point above)
    • STEAM - if you install Steam on a diff partition/harddrive you DON'T HAVE TO RE-DOWNLOAD your games. Just do some small adjustments (see link) and start the client installer from your new OS on the partition Steam is installed and the client detects the Terabytes of games already there. No hustle.
     
    The next time you are building a new PC (different hardware, drivers) you have your PROGRAM's and  DATA already functional. (will need to install far less additional drivers for the new hardware). 
     
    I re-install/deploy Windows/Linux OS'es on a daily basis (for businesses, not end-users). Still some points may apply for your needs.
     
    When Windows 8, 9 or 10 finally supports hardware acceleration for GPUs via API you can run all your stuff via Virtualization: your 'installed software' is unaware, that you changed your PC and or run 'it' on a different OS.  
     
    • also - my personal choice - media files are a thing for the cloud! Amazon and many others do it. No music/movie, nor many gamesave(?!) files need to fill up your still expensive, precious SSD drive (does not apply, if you make music - like Jeff - and need gazillions of samples on the harddrive)
    Posted by Brackynews

    I would offer to buy you a copy of WinRAR, Jeff, but disrupting your routine would probably be more hassle than it's worth. :)
    Let's see, this month I really need to up-migrate three PATA hard drives to one SATA and sell the smallest to someone.
    Then next month I want to migrate all my app preferences to a new user account on my OSX Leopard machine. Get things running snappy again.
    Then when I drop out of school and quit my job for a couple years I can finally catch up with importing & validating all my Netscape Navigator bookmarks.
    Then I should be all caught up and ready to work on my backlog of PSone games.
    Computers make our lives so much better.

    Posted by MooseyMcMan

     Always be not buying WinRAR. If they really wanted money, they would have made a trial period that didn't last forever. 

    Posted by AURON570

    true to life...

    Posted by mr_shoeless

    "Jeff Gerstmann, you are such funny man." 
    --- Vladimyr Scheltovoztokovisich

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