I'm just going to go ahead and lock this since it doesn't seem like it's creating productive discussion.

Some bad things happened in 2013, but 2013 didn't cause bad things to happen. I haven't seen anyone claiming such a thing. People that had a bad year would just like to put it behind them and move on. Nothing more than that.

I've found the meme that 2013 is an especially terrible year to be amusing. Think it has more to do with a younger generation discovering the reality of mortality. First you discover just how vast the world is, and then you discover how ephemeral it all is.

Nobody fucking knows if they were speeding and telling someone to stop doesn't mean that will happen

In my society people wouldn't be allowed to have personal motor vehicles. Streets would be much narrower. Designed for walking, with trees and narrow sections for public transports and services. No more waiting for green lights and looking left and right! Cars are ugly and loud and take up too much room.

You're literally telling people to stop mourning in a certain manner for no reason. It's not harming anyone and simply letting people express their feelings on what has been an emotionally rough year.

For me personally 2013 has been a pretty crappy year. Just a lot of bad luck, really.

You're right, OP. People die every year because of various reasons and some of them happen to be famous.

However, blaming the year is just a way for people to cope with tragic news. That's all there is to it.

edit: 2013 was the best year I had for about a decade or so. I really turned my life around this year and I feel better than ever. So yeah, I like it. The worst news I had to stomach was Ryan though. GB content has gotten me through a lot of shitty times.

This thread got toxic hella fast. Shit happens when I go to bed, apparently.

@jeust: This is clearly going nowhere. I'm bowing out.

@jeust: Your further posts do a better job of conveying your point, but the OP is pretty poorly worded and comes off as sort of moronic, and a tad insensitive.

But really, people aren't blaming the year as much as they're just lumping tragedy into an era, and hoping for future eras to be happier. Nothing wrong with that. No one here is ignorant enough to actually blame a period of time for anything. They know the actual cause; it's just tougher to talk about.

Leave 2013 alone!

Opinions and all, but what an insignificant thing to be upset about. As far as I can remember, people "blame the year" for everything. 1941. 1963. 1968. 1980. 2001. 2013. It's why we have resolutions at the new year, because we all want to start over despite starting over every year.

Start blaming the cars!

It is true... I was condescending, but how'd you go about it?

How many times like you said we blame situations on "some nebulous, metaphysical 'something'" like you said and shrug? Or even label it tragic and forget all about it?

It is good to think about how and why situations happen, and their results. With it we can avoid a lot of ache. It is funny that we're not idiots, but car crashes are still one of the biggest causes of death, and we're sick of hearing about them.

Listen, I've had a lot of bad personal stuff happen this year, which isn't helped by the fact that this year has seen a lot of deaths of people, be they famous or not dying at ages that people wouldn't accept as their time. The reason why people are talking about the year is because they hope that next year will be better and not have as many cases of this as this year has. Sure, people will die next year, be it disasters, natural causes or car accidents, that's just the world we live in. But when the world around you over the last 12 months has been absolutely shit, most people will look at the future as a way to cope with all this; it's a natural response.

Being angry at people for trying to cling onto a faint hope that perhaps next year will be less grim is pretty fucking dumb. It may be meaningless to you, but if it helps people get through the adversity of life who are you to chastise them for it?

Exactly. I wouldn't have ridden with him in the first place or let him drive my car. But surely they've done this before and didn't care. Of course he wasn't against his friend speeding. It was fun for both of them. That's how these people are.

I would have yelled at him to stop. It's not fun if you're friend (Walker) isn't into it.

Ugh, what an awful thread.

To be fair, Luigi inherited the majority of his problems from his predessor. It's not totally his fault.

@jeust: People aren't saying 2013 kills people, people are just having bad experiences with the year. No one is blaming time itself for the sadness of 2013.

Flagged nothing is going to come of this thread it went bad 3 post in.

Look everyone, before this thread gets out of hand here, let's all just take a step back, breathe deeply, and agree that the greatest tragedy in this whole unfortunate affair isn't that two men died, but rather that people reacted to it incorrectly.

Are you serious, a guy dies and you defend the year from backlash? Who gives a shit?

It's really sad that a cool dude like Paul went out this early, let's all rage out at the year for a bit, I'm sure it won't mind the abuse. Being all imaginary and stuff.

for me this year was great...we (egyptians) kicked out morsi and his gang (muslim brotherhood)

about paul walker plz people don't over react we are all gonna die some day, so always be ready to face ur god becoz u never know when u gonna die

So you decided to take it upon yourself to assume we're all simpletons who never learn for our mistakes and let us know what's up? You are reading way too much into the "backlash", here; I don't think the people saying "2013 has been a shitty year" are seriously trying to shirk all responsibility and blame everything bad that happens on some nebulous, metaphysical "something".

Considering you have no idea what sort of things people might have faced over the course of this year, maybe you should have been a little less condescending with your tone when coming in here and telling us all something we already know. We aren't idiots; we are well aware that tragedy can result from our own choices. Telling a bunch of people you don't know anything about that these things wouldn't happen if we'd only learn from our mistakes isn't the classiest thing to do, well-intentioned or not.

Apparently being the star of Fast & Furious gives you the power to telepathically control vehicles

@jonny_anonymous:

Normally I decide what happens with my possessions. We live in a society where we normally rule over what we own, no? And there is nothing that leads to believe he was against his friend speeding, as mentioned in

Sources say the star was in town for a Philippines typhoon charity effort. He was reportedly taking friends for a ride in his Porsche GT when the accident happened, during one of the test spins.

Read more:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/fast-and-the-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-fiery-car-crash-20131201-2yjcu.html#ixzz2mFPr8W74

Amazing thread. Thanks 2013.

So? Paul wasn't the one driving.

It was Paul's car.

Even then, what does it matter? Every year have death of famous people (actors, journalists) people we care for to some degree, and cataclysms. It's a normal human response, but in itself mostly meaningless.

@jeust:

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

People are just angry and a bit dismayed at all that happened this year. It's natural to want to say "fuck this" and want to move on.

Yes I spent last night trying to track down this 'year' to fight them after causing so much bad shit to happen. Seriously this is a dumb thread. No one blames 2013 for Ryan or Mr Walker. 2013 just happened to have both of those events in the same relatively short time span. You wanna talk about speeding being an issue, fine. Speeding is an issue. People die from speeding all the time and it sucks. No one is blaming 2013

this doesnt matter. you're getting annoyed at like the most insignificant thing

Lets just hope 2014 the year of Waluigi is better.

You don't tell me what to do!

Yeah, but how many times we say the year or the day sucked and try to forget about it? Just throw it under the rug, and do something else. How many times we think about the moments that sucked (and why)? And how many times we don't, and just get appalled when they happen again?

Does OP think people are running around and saying "I hope I survive 2013, nobody will die after that!!1!one"

No one can muster one after this turd of a year under his watch.

What are you even talking about now? What doesn't matter?

It's not one or the other. Someone saying this day sucked or what a shitty year doesn't mean they think things will be magically better when the day or year is over. I can say man today sucked and still change things if I was at fault for the suckage. On the other hand celebrity deaths, typhoons, floods, train derailments, fires, and earthquakes that happened in 2013 all sucked and there's nothing any of us can do to change that so what exactly is wrong with people saying that the year sucked?

2013 the year Paul Walker died parenthetically also 12k not famous people died in the typhoon and a couple in black friday stampedes, something like 50k more dead in Syria but rip paul lets make 2014 the year of nobody (famous or attractive) dying. Call me callous but I have a harder time caring about a young famous dude dying for driving like an asshole. Not stigmatizing people who are "grieving" Im just saying if you care more about this than typhoon victims you're a shallow piece of shit. nbd do you, but you're also the reason we talk about Miley Cyrus doing a thing at ____ awards instead of real news, people like you. So its worth pointing out.

Thought this thread was gonna be a defence of Luigi, tbh.

Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Because things will repeat themselves, if the same conditions that lead to this horrible day come together again. What a person can hope is to change in order to ease the next horrible time.

What I'm doing here, in this thread, is, not discarding our responsability or the responsability of the people that lead to some tragic event, and help people learn from their experience. Because the consequences of speeding can be harsh, like some people know, and some choose to ignore.

Unconsciously people may blame the thread for bad posts, but unless they are talking about natural events, they generally have human causes, that can lead similar consequences if left unchecked.

I don't think people actually think it is down to a bad luck year. It is just an expression for putting bad events behind you and looking to the future.

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

What a horribly stupid thread.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?