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@tejini said:

GB got shit thrown their way when they dared to hire a man instead of a woman so I can understand why they would hesitate to throw their hats into the ring for either side.

Also, to everyone just generally bashing gamergate because it's the cool thing to do need to remember that on the internet any can be anything and just because someone says they are something doesn't mean they really are.

So far, all I've seen and read makes some ofanti gg folks just as bad if not worse than some ofthe gg folks. Check your privileges folks or whatever.

People expressed disappointment and critique when GB didn't take the opportunity to increase the diversity of their lineup. People didn't dox Jeff's parents and make address-specific threats to rape and murder his loved ones if he didn't learn his place and step out of the games' press, or even something relatively mild like call GB's advertisers and tell them that GB was a hate group.

Despite their persistent claims of experiencing "censorship" (which they seem to think means people disagreeing with them, or failing to dignify their opinions with responses or airtime, or moderating the most vile of bullshit from private communities), the GG crowd is far more deeply invested in the suppression of dissenting voices than anyone else. Their entire genesis was in the violent suppression of someone who had already been a perennial (if secondary to Anita) target of hateful and misogynistic abuse. And they continue to target any voice which they do not deem "objective" (which seems to mean "does not agree with our agenda"). Gamer Gate literally began with doxing, encouraging threats and harassment, and passing around unauthorized nudes in an attempt to ruin a life—and there is no possible way to ever divorce it from that.

Saying that the GG and anti-GG crowds are the same and/or "just as bad" is a grossly false equivalency that is purely used to defend the GG banner and continue to attack "SJWs" (read: anyone who is willing to so much as accept a critique of the status quo that these people are comfortable with) under the guise of being "fair and balanced."

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#3  Edited By JoeShadows

I have so many questions.

Didn't it take them forever to get traction with 3DS sales after they released it? Wasn't that not that long ago? Are they sure they want to fragment their already surprisingly fragmented userbase with a backwards but not forwards compatible new sku again, so soon?

Who is going to want to develop games that take advantage of the New 3DS features, and automatically be selling to a vastly smaller install base, when they can just keep making 3DS games and appeal to both, leaving most of the New 3DS features unused?

How are you supposed to do anything with that Thinkpad-style nub? How are you going to press the new shoulder buttons without accidentally pressing the old shoulder buttons all the time, since they're in-line with each other and you're supposed to be gripping the unit tightly? Are you supposed to, like, arch your fingers around the larger outside buttons?

Is Nintendo desperate, or have they just lost their minds?

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I'm surprised more people aren't freaking out about the "60 day maximum" thing. The ridiculously indiscriminate auto-muting will wreck things in the meantime, but the time limit will be the true nail in the coffin. Could you imagine if Youtube automatically deleted every video after 15 to 60 days? Literally all you're doing is guaranteeing that people will keep their archives hosted somewhere else, which means you will get no traffic for anything which isn't being actively livestreamed.

And of course, once the content producer's archives are on a different service, it's a short step to that service looking at doing the livestreaming itself...

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#5  Edited By JoeShadows

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@Brodehouse: So, your argument is that people who don't have direct experience with something are just as qualified to speak on it as people who do have direct experience with it, because they can deduce everything that's relevant from pure logic? It's good to know that Aristotlean philosophy is alive and well- tell me, how many platonic solids make up the spheres of the heavens these days?

The 'direct experience' thing is an appeal to authority, rather than an examination of the actual argument made. If the argument made is ignorant, you should be able to point it out within the argument itself, rather than make an appeal to authority and ignore the argument altogether.

And your Greek reference is just a red herring.

This isn't high level stuff here, this is the core things you would learn in a basic course on logic. And I think anyone who marks off logic as being the principal factor of the objective quality of an argument has abandoned reason and rationality.

It isn't a red herring- in fact, it is entirely appropriate. You're attempting to use a smoke screen of logic- couched in as pretentious and pedantic language as possible- in order to support an illogical argument. Specifically, that as a supposedly reasoned thinker, you're more qualified to say what a person should feel about something than the person who is actually experiencing the issue at hand, and that therefore you shouldn't have to listen to or give credence to what they're feeling and actually listening to their experience. Thus, you're falling victim to the Greek mistake which ultimately derailed western philosophy for hundreds of years- the idea that, from within a cave, with only a single leaf in your hand, you should, from that leaf, be able to postulate the entire universe.

Common sense tells us that such an idea is complete bullshit, but when couched in enough broken philosophy and logical fallacies, people found it most compelling- especially since, in that instance, it allowed them to perpetuate a social order which was convenient to them. And, if you are such a well-learned student of philosophy, you should know exactly what I'm talking about.

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#6  Edited By JoeShadows

@Sunjammer: So its better if no one has conversations about this stuff, so that it keeps being a problem? Or is it just that talking about it makes you uncomfortable?

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@Ooame: Actually, basic feminism is acutely aware of the fact that men can be objectified and they can be raped- but they're also not allowed to talk about it, because they're supposed to be the ones who are strong and in control, and it is critical to that they maintain that untarnished veneer of machismo. Like many who mock feminism, the only feminism you seem to be aware of is the twisted parody perpetuated by those who want to discredit it- the image of feminism that is all about man-hating and women with hugely hairy armpits who wave burning bras around.

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#8  Edited By JoeShadows

Ok, so, moving on from Brodehouse, the strawman intellectual Reddit troll-

I find it interesting that everyone is talking about the theoretical male equivalent of this statue A) being a six-packed male torso and B) therefore not being a big deal, so guh, stop giving the ladies special treatment everyone!!1!

Because that's not really true, is it? The actual equivalent would be a perfectly waxed male body from above the knees to just above the navel, wearing nothing but a too-small thong over a bulging, contoured crotch, with everything except the crotch area somewhat mutilated. Would everyone still be comfortable with that?

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@Brodehouse: So, your argument is that people who don't have direct experience with something are just as qualified to speak on it as people who do have direct experience with it, because they can deduce everything that's relevant from pure logic? It's good to know that Aristotlean philosophy is alive and well- tell me, how many platonic solids make up the spheres of the heavens these days?

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#10  Edited By JoeShadows

I now hate the Mass Effect fanbase with a burning passion. This has simply been THE WORST fan bullshit I have seen in ages- possibly even worse than that pathetic "Derpy Hooves" controversy. It's immature little pricks like these that result in Hollywood movies being focus-grouped into trite inanity.

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