Avatar wasn't the only familiar film at the Oscars......

So after all of the "Avatar? Don't you mean Pocahontas? LOL" conversations that flooded the internet after it's release, I have to admit, I thought it pretty amusing and to be honest I can see why people would be drawn to that connection. So yesterday, my wife rents 'The Hurt Locker' after saying things like "6 Oscars can't be wrong" and "she beat her ex, gotta support the girls" (to be honest there may have been more but by this point I had stopped listening) we sit and watch. Anyway about 30 minutes into the film I get that strange feeling that Avatar might not have been the only familiar film at the Oscars this year....
 
(****MASSIVE FAT SPOILERS COVERED IN JAM WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW******) 
 
OK, lets quickly throw Hurt Locker into some bullet points:
 
-Young, Scruffy but attractive white newcomer, joins an already established team following the death of their associate. 
-He is partnered with the strong, forceful, black veteran of the team. A man who likes to be in control and play by things by the book.
-The newcomer appears to be a lovable rogue, but the team quickly discover that he is in fact a lose cannon, who will break the rules to get the job done, often putting himself and his team in danger. This leads the team to wonder if he may have suicidal tendencies, or whether he is just mentally unhinged.
-The newcomer's unorthodox approach, although effective, leads to internal conflict and the headstrong black veteran is left to consider whether his job is really the correct line of work for him any more. 
-However the team are put into jeopardy and realise they must be prepared to work inside and outside of the rules if they are to survive.
 
So I'll ask you guys them same thing I asked my wife "Why didn't Lethal Weapon win 6 Oscars?" 
 
In case you haven't guessed all of the above was not written to be taken seriously, but I honestly couldn't get Lethal Weapon out of my head while I was watching it. Which in turn lead me to think that there are hundreds of films that mirror other films either directly of indirectly, and drawing comparisons to any film is possible if you try hard enough. So I'll tell you what, I'll just let the internet carry on with the whole "Don't you mean Dances with Wolves? LOL" bitching, and I'll sit here listening to my wife moan about how she should have rented 'The Ugly Truth' instead. 

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Posted by jonnyboy

So after all of the "Avatar? Don't you mean Pocahontas? LOL" conversations that flooded the internet after it's release, I have to admit, I thought it pretty amusing and to be honest I can see why people would be drawn to that connection. So yesterday, my wife rents 'The Hurt Locker' after saying things like "6 Oscars can't be wrong" and "she beat her ex, gotta support the girls" (to be honest there may have been more but by this point I had stopped listening) we sit and watch. Anyway about 30 minutes into the film I get that strange feeling that Avatar might not have been the only familiar film at the Oscars this year....
 
(****MASSIVE FAT SPOILERS COVERED IN JAM WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW******) 
 
OK, lets quickly throw Hurt Locker into some bullet points:
 
-Young, Scruffy but attractive white newcomer, joins an already established team following the death of their associate. 
-He is partnered with the strong, forceful, black veteran of the team. A man who likes to be in control and play by things by the book.
-The newcomer appears to be a lovable rogue, but the team quickly discover that he is in fact a lose cannon, who will break the rules to get the job done, often putting himself and his team in danger. This leads the team to wonder if he may have suicidal tendencies, or whether he is just mentally unhinged.
-The newcomer's unorthodox approach, although effective, leads to internal conflict and the headstrong black veteran is left to consider whether his job is really the correct line of work for him any more. 
-However the team are put into jeopardy and realise they must be prepared to work inside and outside of the rules if they are to survive.
 
So I'll ask you guys them same thing I asked my wife "Why didn't Lethal Weapon win 6 Oscars?" 
 
In case you haven't guessed all of the above was not written to be taken seriously, but I honestly couldn't get Lethal Weapon out of my head while I was watching it. Which in turn lead me to think that there are hundreds of films that mirror other films either directly of indirectly, and drawing comparisons to any film is possible if you try hard enough. So I'll tell you what, I'll just let the internet carry on with the whole "Don't you mean Dances with Wolves? LOL" bitching, and I'll sit here listening to my wife moan about how she should have rented 'The Ugly Truth' instead. 

Posted by ThatFrood

This is brilliant. I am taking this. I hope you don't mind.

Posted by Th3_James

Wheres my jam?

Edited by TwoOneFive

I've been telling people that, even though i LOVED The Hurt Locker ( i flocked to the most popular indy film theater in Philly to see it when it had its first limited release and told everyone on Facebook repeatedly that it offered better and more intense action than anything else in theaters at the time..I even bought the blu-ray) BUT ! I am always the first to admit that it is really JUST AN ACTION MOVIE- Its VERY cheesey. Its filmed to look realistic, but nothing about it is. Anyone in the military that see's this film usually dislikes it (i know 6 different guys that said it was okay, but mostly full of bullshit). The acting was mostly sub-par except for a few standouts and cameos.  I mean, saying this film was a realistic war film, is like saying Point Break (or DEFINITELY Lethal Weapon) is a realistic cop film.  
Seriously though, brilliant comparison dude.  
It doesnt take anything away from the film for me though, just like the comparisons for Avatar don't either, but still, its pretty similar- but thats how most simple ACTION films are.  
 
The great thing about Hurt Locker is that it takes the action genre and puts in a very serious setting, and immediately it becomes far more dramatic- its pretty smart.   
 
its really no wonder Bigelow was trembling when she recieved that oscar for best pic- she REALLY couldn't believe it. 

Posted by ryanwho

You don't have to try hard at all to see what Avatar is aping, meanwhile you really fucking stretched to get here. Cute and all, but its not the same.

Posted by MarkWahlberg

The problem wasn't that Avatar copied Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves et al, it was that it added nothing new to the story other than prettier things to look at. It was a cookie cutter job when could easily have been much more. Yes, Hurt Locker consisted of a lot of concepts that have been done many times before, but it did them in new and interesting ways. 

Posted by Fr0Br0

Ok, lets say we replace the Black guy with a Mexican and the White guy with a Martian.

Posted by ryanwho

It was a corny copy of a story that was told better elsewhere. People wouldn't complain if it was a better told version of the story. Being a familiar story is less the issue than being so hamfisted and condescending in execution. Underselling other movies doesn't make Avatar suddenly more profound.

Posted by jonnyboy
@ryanwho said:
" You don't have to try hard at all to see what Avatar is aping, meanwhile you really fucking stretched to get here. Cute and all, but its not the same. "
That's my point. Like I said at the end, if you try hard enough you can draw comparisons between any films.
Edited by SeriouslyNow
@jonnyboy said:

"  So I'll ask you guys them same thing I asked my wife "Why didn't Lethal Weapon win 6 Oscars?"  "

Two words : "Diplomatic Immunity."
 
Also : The Hurt Locker wins the Oscar because of all of the white guilt left around after the desperately needed firing of GW Bullshit (sorry Botch, oops I meant Bitch, no wait...Bush).  It's the same reason that The Green Zone will be critically acclaimed even though it's Damon doing Jason Bourne in Iraq.
Posted by Skald

Overrated movie wins award. There's something you don't see every year.

Posted by ryanwho
@jonnyboy said:
" @ryanwho said:
" You don't have to try hard at all to see what Avatar is aping, meanwhile you really fucking stretched to get here. Cute and all, but its not the same. "
That's my point. Like I said at the end, if you try hard enough you can draw comparisons between any films. "
And my point is you kinda sorta only really notice you've been down this road before if the movie is a lesser version of the familiar story. I'm not gonna pretend Hurt Locker's perfect, it had a lot of shallow Oscar bait surrounding it and that makes it winning far more obvious than the populist movie winning, which rarely happens because the committee is rather pretentious. I get you saying "movie x is like movie y" not really being a valid complaint because everything is inspired by something, but man, ignore that completely and Avatar still has about 20 other issues. And most can be ignored if you approach it like a mindless action movie, but then I have to deal with a mindless action movie being nominated for best picture and the timeless classic Lethal Weapon 2 not. The Hollywoods Js have been holding Mel back for years!
Posted by Azrail

such a sad attempt

Posted by TwoOneFive
@SeriouslyNow said:
" @jonnyboy said:

"  So I'll ask you guys them same thing I asked my wife "Why didn't Lethal Weapon win 6 Oscars?"  "

Two words : "Diplomatic Immunity."
 
Also : The Hurt Locker wins the Oscar because of all of the white guilt left around after the desperately needed firing of GW Bullshit (sorry Botch, oops I meant Bitch, no wait...Bush).  It's the same reason that The Green Zone will be critically acclaimed even though it's Damon doing Jason Bourne in Iraq. "
wtf are you talking about. 
Posted by SeriouslyNow
@TwoOneFive said:
" @SeriouslyNow said:
" @jonnyboy said:

"  So I'll ask you guys them same thing I asked my wife "Why didn't Lethal Weapon win 6 Oscars?"  "

Two words : "Diplomatic Immunity."
 
Also : The Hurt Locker wins the Oscar because of all of the white guilt left around after the desperately needed firing of GW Bullshit (sorry Botch, oops I meant Bitch, no wait...Bush).  It's the same reason that The Green Zone will be critically acclaimed even though it's Damon doing Jason Bourne in Iraq. "
wtf are you talking about.  "
Dude, you have a busted sarcasm meter.  Get that shit seen to stat!
Edited by Synthballs

Congrats for being psychically linked to an old FailBlog post.

Posted by OutOfBounds9000
@Th3_James said:
" Wheres my jam? "
lol