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I can't WAIT to buy my sweet Lionhead t-shirt!
Kotaku just ran a story detailing the price of a number of soon-to-be-released avatar clothing for the Xbox 360. The majority of the items shown are related to specific games like Fable II and Halo with a few options from a brand called Recessionista that I've never heard of. Basically, Microsoft is trying to get users to pay to advertise their products while they're on a paid service to begin with. I'm not doubting the cleverness of this on a business level. It's a genius business idea, but there's a lot of business ideas that work well in theory but are totally bootsy in practice.

This arrangement creates nothing but animosity and resentment in me. It's an extremely arrogant move on Microsoft's part. However, the sad fact of the matter is simply this: probably about 30-50% of Xbox Live users will buy something from the initial offering of clothing. The revenue generated from that 30-50% will most likely turn a decent profit. The fact that a profit was turned will cause this trend continue and the majority of the clothing will continue to cost money. And all the whining and complaining from people like me will be worth exactly squat.

And so it goes...
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Posted by Joseppie
I can't WAIT to buy my sweet Lionhead t-shirt!
Kotaku just ran a story detailing the price of a number of soon-to-be-released avatar clothing for the Xbox 360. The majority of the items shown are related to specific games like Fable II and Halo with a few options from a brand called Recessionista that I've never heard of. Basically, Microsoft is trying to get users to pay to advertise their products while they're on a paid service to begin with. I'm not doubting the cleverness of this on a business level. It's a genius business idea, but there's a lot of business ideas that work well in theory but are totally bootsy in practice.

This arrangement creates nothing but animosity and resentment in me. It's an extremely arrogant move on Microsoft's part. However, the sad fact of the matter is simply this: probably about 30-50% of Xbox Live users will buy something from the initial offering of clothing. The revenue generated from that 30-50% will most likely turn a decent profit. The fact that a profit was turned will cause this trend continue and the majority of the clothing will continue to cost money. And all the whining and complaining from people like me will be worth exactly squat.

And so it goes...
Posted by CowMuffins

But, you can also unlock some items from games eventually. Whether developers will do that or not, I'm not sure. But hey, people will buy it, and unlock most types of microtransactions, the Avatar equipment never "expires".

Edited by JeffGoldblum

Wow and thats not even cool stuff. I might pay 50 cents to put some cool object from a game on my avatar but not a Lionhead Logo.

Posted by Kohe321

Hah so you pay to be a walking ad! Basically what Nike and other clothing brands has been doing for many years already. Marketing... It's just awesome.

Posted by MattyFTM

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Posted by Scooper

I already pay for Gold and that's filled with advertising and now they're charging to wear cloths that advertise the games.
I hate that.

Posted by Dethfish

I hope nobody buys any of this shit.

Posted by Sparky_Buzzsaw

If it turns out to be a service like the gamer pics, where free ones are available for download as basic advertising for a product, that's fine.  But I doubt I'd ever pay for avatar clothing.  I think the idea of making some of  them unlockable through game achievements is a brilliant idea.

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Posted by Megalon

Don't forget kiddies, you don't have to buy it. 


I like the idea of unlocking stuff, but I sure as hell won't be buying clothing and whatnot. 
Posted by zombie2011

Im gonna buy some of this stuff i always have like 200-300mp left after i buy what ever i need to buy, so ill probably use it on this.

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Posted by MattyFTM
@zombie2011 said:
" Im gonna buy some of this stuff i always have like 200-300mp left after i buy what ever i need to buy, so ill probably use it on this. "
Why not save the 200-300 points, then the next time you have 200-300 points left over you'll have enough for a game?
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Posted by jonnyboy

If you buy any of that stuff, you really shouldn't be allowed to own a credit card.

Posted by mordukai
@Joseppie: I think it stinks that MS are charging money for this. But dumb people will pay for it and MS knows that. We as consumers have a lot more power then corporation would like us to know. Saying it is the nature of business and agreeing with it is dumb. Its not the nature of the business, its greed corporate greed. 
Posted by ParanoidFreak

Wow, I thought these would be about 50 points at the most.

Posted by CL60

You realize people buy clothing with real money in Playstation Home also...whats the big deal?

Posted by Pie

320 points for a remote controlled toy warthog that doesnt do anything is ridicoulos

Posted by Atlas
@CL60: The big deal is that both your scenario and this scenario is like the worst thing ever. Both because companies put this shit into their system, and because fucktards actually buy them. They don't offset each other. Actually people would probably argue that Home is more valid, because Sony don't charge you for playing games online (which would be great if their online service has anywhere near as good as Live, but that's another matter....)
Posted by jonnyboy
@CL60: It's a big deal because companies watch each other and then make stupid marketing strategies from them: Horse Armour, Street fighter 4 costumes, Lara Croft Swimsuits, Sims 3 clothing Store and now Avatar clothing and toys. It's called a "Stupidity Tax". We used to get this stuff for free, stop buying it and we will again. Especially the SF4 costumes and the Tomb Raider stuff, your paying to unlock stuff already on the disc!
Posted by T0mF5
@zombie2011 said:
"Im gonna buy some of this stuff i always have like 200-300mp left after i buy what ever i need to buy, so ill probably use it on this. "
This is why Microsoft uses 800 points for every 10 dollars.
Posted by Origina1Penguin

I second Matty's words.  Giant Bomb avatar accessories are the only ones I'll buy if MS ever decides to allow gaming websites to release stuff.

Unlockables are a great idea.  I support those.

Posted by The_A_Drain
@MattyFTM said:
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This is the only situation I would EVER pay for Avatar clothing.

I don't even look at my avatar I just play games. 

I can see why this would make someone angry and I support that, but i'm personally much much more bothered by the dashboard ads than I am by this development, microtransactions via the avatar features have been pretty much confirmed since they announced them, it was inevitable. It's not different from themes or gamerpics. 

Fortunately, you can now find Avatar clothing, like gamerpics, as unlockables in games. 'Splosion Man being the first to feature them. So you can pcik up some free ones along the way and tell the paid ones to shove it.
Posted by FlamingHobo
@The_A_Drain said:
" @MattyFTM said:
" I WANT GIANT BOMB CLOTHING FOR MY AVATAR!!!!!
This is the only situation I would EVER pay for Avatar clothing.

I don't even look at my avatar I just play games. 

I can see why this would make someone angry and I support that, but i'm personally much much more bothered by the dashboard ads than I am by this development, microtransactions via the avatar features have been pretty much confirmed since they announced them, it was inevitable. It's not different from themes or gamerpics. 

Fortunately, you can now find Avatar clothing, like gamerpics, as unlockables in games. 'Splosion Man being the first to feature them. So you can pcik up some free ones along the way and tell the paid ones to shove it.
"
I really wouldn't mind if they were game related ads, but stuff like Nike and McDonalds just seems stupid. I do like the idea of the Game Awards system, which you find items for your avatar in-game, I'd love to see a Lancer (Gears of War) on my Avatar.
Posted by FiestaUnicorn

who cares if they charge for it?  just don't buy it.

Posted by JackiJinx

I'll probably get the rubber chicken with the pully in the middle. Other than that, maybe an item or two.


They'll only keep doing this if people are willing to buy into it. It's simple economic principals.
Posted by Diamond

The 360 avatars are dumb enough as it is.  This doesn't make me any more upset.

Posted by CowMuffins
@JackiJinx said:
" I'll probably get the rubber chicken with the pully in the middle. Other than that, maybe an item or two.

They'll only keep doing this if people are willing to buy into it. It's simple economic principals.
"
I already have one of those.
Posted by JackiJinx
@CowMuffins said:
" @JackiJinx said:
" I'll probably get the rubber chicken with the pully in the middle. Other than that, maybe an item or two.

They'll only keep doing this if people are willing to buy into it. It's simple economic principals.
"
I already have one of those. "
For your avatar?
Posted by MeierTheRed

I would pay 800 Microsoft space money for them to remove my Avatar. But i will never spend anything on clothes, or any objects thats Avatar related. I hate them and i do so with a passion.

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Posted by CowMuffins
@JackiJinx: Sorry, lame joke.
Posted by Death_Unicorn
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BAM!
Posted by Gearhead

Again, I will be buying a eye patch and a ear swab. Completely dumb, but I got points to waste ans I want to be different : P

Posted by iam3green

great, this is going to be making microsoft more money. people will buy these kinds of things. idk who would buy these things. it is a way for developers to get their name out there. avatars aren't really known all that much. u barely use avatars for anyting.

Posted by Gin_Orphan

I guess I don't see the controversy here. If people don't buy into it, it will stop. If they do, then it has every right to continue. I am not a big Avatar fan, but I have friends who, particularly since the start of the 1 vs 100 beta, obsess over the look of their avatar. I am all for calling out "LOL Micro$oft" when I see it, but sometimes an online clothing store is just an online clothing store.

Posted by Bigandtasty

Ugh. 


Then again I never liked the avatars anyway (on any console). They all looked stupid to me. This just affirms my preference.
Posted by Seedofpower
@Joseppie:  you make a good point. A lot of people are going to buy into this, the same people who bought gifts for their friends over facebook. In a way, its a good idea and microsoft is a business and they have to find ways to make more money  and stay ahead of their competition, even if its exploiting stupid people.
Posted by Chewii101

Well.....I think we all saw this coming a mile away. It might be devious, but for Microsoft its good business I  guess.

Posted by Milkman

You don't need to buy it...If people want to buy it, they will buy it. There's no shady or "arrogant" about this. As stupid as I personally think it is to buy clothes for your avatar, if people want to they will and it's not Microsoft's fault for capitalizing on that.

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Posted by Bubahula

whatever im never gona pay for it, i am stoked on the unlocking stuff

Posted by jNerd
@CowMuffins said:
" But, you can also unlock some items from games eventually. Whether developers will do that or not, I'm not sure. But hey, people will buy it, and unlock most types of microtransactions, the Avatar equipment never "expires". "
In the 'Splosion Man description on Xbox.com it says you can unlock avatar items.
I've yet to do so, or know if I even can yet. But it's a promising start for Free avatar accessories.
Posted by Karn

They're just trying to beat Home on the ps3.

Posted by Fezz

Considering Microsoft has been selling themes and gamer pictures for most of (Or all, I'm not sure,) the 360's lifecycle, I'm really not surprised.

Posted by iam3green

dang that sucks. microsoft wants more money from people.

Posted by Shadow

If this site put out a clothes pack, I'd be very interested.  Otherwise, you'll find me not buying any of this crap

Posted by Shadow
@Karn said:
" They're just trying to beat Home on the ps3. "
I hate to break it to you, but they've already done it.
Posted by evanbrau

Won't be buying any of this just like I didn't buy anything in home.

Posted by Jedted

I like the thought of unlocking costumes from certain games but i probebly won't be buying any named brand clothing for my avatar.

Posted by natetodamax

Unless it's Giant Bomb related, there is no way in hell I am spending real money and valuable points on my stupid little man

Posted by LiquidPrince
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So, wait, what do you want?
Posted by NintenDood

It's optional, so I don't really care about it, plus they already gave us a bunch of free clothing options too.
And unlockable Avatar clothes in games is an awesome idea, I actually think 'Splosion Man is doing it.