It's the merchants job to check with them in regards to the package that was shipped, because they are the shipper. It sucks, but that's the way it goes. "Okay, thanks for verifying.
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" You should totally go Falling Down on their ass. "Haha, don't think those thoughts haven't gone through my mind! I actually think that I will just return it and be done with it. While it will probably be a HUGE hassle to do so, at least I will have the satisfaction of knowing that the Tournament Stick I bought at Fry's (they have them sitting on the shelf, and have for weeks) won't come from someone who hates their customers.
EDIT: (apparently there is a limit on comment length--here is Capcom's response after I posted this here and on their forums):
Dear Kyle Sellers,
Thank you for contacting the Capcom Online Store.
We are processing your refund for order: [REDACTED]. Please allow 5 - 7 days for the credit to be applied to your credit card. Due to billing cycles, the refund may not appear on the same credit card statement as the original charge.
Sincerely,
Chad H.
Capcom Online Store
Customer Service
" I also think you should be getting onto UPS rather than Capcom. They should even have a record of who signed for it and where, in case someone has taken delivery of both. If it's nobody you know, or someone has stolen them at point of delivery, you can get your money back and they'll do an investigation. "There was no signature required. I have never had a package stolen before. And I disagree, Capcom should have to go after USPS--at least that is what USPS tells me. I am unable to file a claim, only they can.
I was unclear, thanks for giving me a chance to clarify.
@TheHBK
said:They only shipped it once, the second email is referring to the first shipment. The second shipment never went out. Had it been shipped that would be one thing, but once you promise to ship a replacement and then DON'T, that is another thing.The fact that the UPS tracking system shows it got to your place twice, means there is something screwy going on with them. Capcom did respond and did what is normal.
I *fully* believe that the package was lost in shipment, and am not implying some sort of conspiracy. But, I don't expect to spend $160 bucks on something I never receive.
If the response had been "Tough luck," I would have gone to my credit card company and reversed the charge. Instead they said they'd send another one, then changed their mind--and then stopped responding to my emails. And even now, after I have placed two orders, they have not refunded the first one which they said they would. BOTTOM LINE: If you say you're going to do something, do it. I can't believe I sent them more money. I should've just done a credit card chargeback. But I was an idiot and thought that they'd make things right.
EDIT: Also, it was USPS, not UPS. There is no option when choosing shipping options to purchase insurance--nor should there be. When I buy from Amazon, I don't have to purchase insurance.
I just was sort of amazed that the advice I got when looking for customer service was "Go to the forum and PM some dude." I read alot of forums (including this one), but rarely participate--I don't have that much to contribute--but I have NEVER even thought of a forum as a valid means of obtaining customer service.
Why should I have to register on a site, track down one guy (especially when Capcom's proprietary forum system is a little confusing--it won't even let you go to the forums until you make a blog post and upload a picture), just to try to convince a company that when I give them $163, they are supposed to give me something in return?
No phone number that I know of. And believe me, I've looked! I just don't understand how the Bombcast crew can sing the praises of Capcom's commitment to their customers. I suspect that they see a different side of Capcom than some of us "little people."
I should also mention that Seth Killian (Community Manager), Chris Svensson (a corporate VP), and DJay (who runs the Capcom store) have all responded to my threads on Capcom, but none of them have taken action (that I know of) to get this resolved.
I specifically ordered from Capcom because the Giant Bomb guys raved about their attention to their community. I wanted to do business with a company like that, but they have done everything in their power to screw me. You should NEVER buy something from the Capcom store. Ever.
I ordered a $150 Tournament Stick to play Marvel vs Capcom 2 with (I have a cabinet of the first one, and was looking forward to playing online). Basically, Capcom decided to take the opportunity to bend me over the table and show me how much they appreciated me as a customer. I still cannot sit down. Basically, they've made me pay for this damned arcade stick and I am out $300 and STILL don't have an arcade stick.
I ordered on June 24th. On July 17th, I ask where it is--they say it was delivered on July 3rd. It wasn't. Two days later, after several emails, they let me know that they are shipping another one to me and I will get an email confirming shipping. 10 days later I still haven't received a confirmation! On July 28th, I reply--and at that point, they stop replying to me altogether. I go to Twitter, and @Capcom_Unity tells me to go to the forums and PM Kramez so I sign up for the forum. AFTER THREE DAYS of complaining on the forum I am finally told that I need to place ANOTHER order, and pay extra for shipping and they will refund my original order and REFUSE TO REFUND MY MONEY!!! I'm pissed, but I just it resolved, so I place the order less than 30 minutes after received the email. (To be fair, DJay did offer to help me, and apparently he runs for Capcom store, but I have no idea whether or not he did anything. Nice guy, though.)
Now, 3 days later I have not received confirmation of my Tournament Stick being order OR my refund on my first order. My first order was $163, my second was $5 more ($168), so I am currently out $331 and have ZERO Tournament Sticks. And it has been over a month and a half.
WHAT TYPE OF COMPANY WOULD SCREW OVER ITS CUSTOMERS LIKE THIS? What other company would charge extra when a person doesn't receive the item they ordered? What type of company stops returning emails from their customers or promises to ship them and item and then never does?
Most companies would be horrified to learn that their customers are being treated this way. Not Capcom. I've talked to the guy who runs the store and Seth, and STILL my issue is unresolved.
Here is a record of some of the communications I have had with Capcom:
July 17th
I finally checked the tracking information on my package and it says that it arrived on July 3rd. It didn't. I checked at the post office and they said it had arrived, as well.
I never received my order, is there a way for you to check and see if it was returned to you?
Thank you,
Kyle Sellers
THAT DAY I GOT A RESONSE:
July 17th
Dear Kyle Sellers,
Thank you for contacting the Capcom Online Store.
We show that this product was delivered on 7/3/09 to the address listed below:
[REDACTED]
Please check around your house to verify if the package was dropped off.
Sincerely,
Chad H.
Capcom Online Store
Customer Service
MY RESPONSE:
July 18th
I live in a townhouse, and I never received it. Nor did my neighbor
whose door is across from mine.
Kyle Sellers
THE NEXT DAY:
July 19th
Dear Kyle Sellers,
Thank you for contacting the Capcom Online Store.
We apologize for any inconvenience this issue has caused. A request has been submitted to reship your product. You will be notified by email when the product is shipped.
Sincerely,
Dennis H.
Capcom Online Store
Customer Service
MY RESPONSE:
July 28th
It has been 10 days and I have not gotten either a shipping confirmation or an update. It has been over a month since I ordered the stick.
Can you either give me an update or a refund, this is getting ridiculous.
Kyle Sellers.
THERE WAS NEVER ANY REPLY TO THE ABOVE EMAIL, SO I WENT TO TWITTER. @Capcom_Unity told me to go to the forums. I created these posts:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/kylesellers/blog/2009/07/29/wow_its_a_lot_of_work_just_to_sign_up_just_to_track_down_my_purchase
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/18603518/I_was_told_by_Capcom_Unity_to_come_here_to_contact_Kramez
And when there was no response after a couple days, I posted these:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/kylesellers/blog/2009/07/31/i_need_help_i_have_been_waiting_a_month_for_my_tournament_stick_i_paid_for
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/18621118/Is_there_a_phone__for_customer_service_Ive_been_waiting_over_a_MONTH_for_my_Tournament_Stick
FINALLY, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM CAPCOM:
July 31st
Thank you for contacting the Capcom Online Store.
We show the order was delivered via USPS tracking number [REDACTED]. As we are not responsible for lost or stolen shipments, we are only able to refund the order once a new order has been placed. Please use a traceable method of shipping along with the code TENOFFUPS2DAY to receive $10 UPS ground. To place a new order, go to: http://store.digitalriver.com/
- Add the product(s) you wish to purchase to the shopping cart. If you are attempting to place an order from a promotional offer, please use the link provided by that offer. If the incorrect pricing appears, empty your shopping cart and try again.
- Once all items you wish to purchase are in the shopping cart, proceed to the checkout.
We recommend when placing an order that you enter your billing information exactly as it appears on your credit card billing statement. If your middle initial appears on your credit card, please include it.
If you receive an error message, please reply with the error number, if available. Also include the order number if available (found in the shopping cart before you click the "Proceed to Checkout" button).
Once the new order is placed, please reply to this email with the new order number and we will refund the previous purchase.
Sincerely
Alexander L.
Capcom Online Store
Customer Service
SO BASICALLY, I HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER STICK AND THEY WILL REFUND THE FIRST ONE. OH, AND I HAVE TO PAY *MORE* FOR SHIPPING ON THIS ONE. BASICALLY, I NEED TO PAY EXTRA TO ACTUALLY GET THE PRODUCT I ORDERED. Now THAT is customer service!
MY RESPONSE (After I went ahead and paid ANOTHER $168!):
July 31st (roughly 30 minutes after receiving the last email)It has been FOUR days and I have not received a refund on the first Tournament Stick, nor have I received a response to my email. I have no idea when or if I will receive a refund. But when I receive the Tournament Stick, I am returning it immediately. I come from a background in customer service, so maybe I am particularly sensitive to poor customer service--I don't know. Does it seem unreasonable to be upset about a transaction going down like this?
Thank you for responding, I was growing quite concerned and considering initiating a chargeback. I don't understand why I need to place an order when I was told on July 24th that it would be shipping soon. I cannot believe that I am sending you MORE money after the poor customer service I have received.
I just placed the replacement order, but I have not gotten a confirmation number, yet. Maybe you can check on your end... the whole site seems slow and laggy, but it says: "Thank you for your order. Your order is being processed and you will be notified of the result shortly."
Please refund my previous purchase today. If there is ANY REASON that you cannot refund my previous purchase today, I EXPECT to be notified of the delay.
I have to say, this has been one of the worst customer experiences of my life, and I doubt I would ever order from the Capcom store again. I understand when things go wrong, but the fact that no one was responding to my emails, that I had to register for a forum, and that I had to contact multiple people on the forums to get any sort of response seems unreasonable.
Again, I just spent $150 to play a $15 XBLA game because I am such a fan of Capcom. I wish this had all gone much smoother, and I hope you will do something to prevent this in the future.
Kyle Sellers
Regardless, I will never buy another product from the Capcom store. Capcom makes some great games, and I will continue to support them as a developer, but I am not likely to buy Marvel vs Capcom 2 or a Capcom branded arcade stick. Of course, if one person at Capcom would apologize and take the VERY little effort it would require to make this situation right (and refund the additional absurd shipping charges), I would be very appreciative. I don't blame companies for things going wrong--but I do blame them for not caring enough to make them right.
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