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#1 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

Danganronpa 1? I just finished 2 last night and enjoyed it but think 1 was much better. Looking at the list of games I've played that released this year (34 so far) it's the only thing really sticking out besides Layton v Phoenix Wright. Granted I haven't played Banner Saga, Theatrhythm or Valiant Hearts yet which all are games I'd love but don't think any of them would be my GotY, maybe Top 10. There's still a few games coming out that I'm excited for like Bayonetta 2, Persona Ultimax/Q and Smash which could all end up as my GotY but overall it's been a pretty bummer year between everything being delayed to next year and the big stuff being average or disappointing depending on who you talk to (inFamous, Watch Dogs, Destiny).

#2 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -
@hailinel said:

@l1ghtn1n said:

@hailinel: I can only play with no items/limited stages if I'm in a competitive setting or intending to compete? I've never competed in a tournament and don't have much of a desire to do so (though I'm considering it a bit more with Smash 4) I have a couple of friends where that's the way we play. I don't like playing with items and a lot of the stages have too much random stuff on them, we find it more fun to play with that stuff turned off. I've heard far more people bitching at us and mocking us for playing that way than we've yelled at them for playing with that stuff. If you want to play that way go for it but complaining about how we play the game is equally silly.

No, what I'm saying is that you shouldn't get pissy if people try to play with items or other stages, which is exactly what the people I'm thinking of did.

And I've been on the other side, people shouldn't get pissy if others try to play without items or other stages. Sucks you ran into crazies, but painting the entire community that way after a small encounter with a few isn't great either. Most of the people who play it competitively seem like reasonable people but there's always going to be a few who take it too seriously in any community, whether that's people in Dota yelling at me for playing a new hero, people in WoW yelling at me for doing a raid I've never done before, or people playing StarCraft II yelling at me because I mostly play custom games in there.

#3 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

@hailinel: I can only play with no items/limited stages if I'm in a competitive setting or intending to compete? I've never competed in a tournament and don't have much of a desire to do so (though I'm considering it a bit more with Smash 4) I have a couple of friends where that's the way we play. I don't like playing with items and a lot of the stages have too much random stuff on them, we find it more fun to play with that stuff turned off. I've heard far more people bitching at us and mocking us for playing that way than we've yelled at them for playing with that stuff. If you want to play that way go for it but complaining about how we play the game is equally silly.

#4 Edited by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

@hailinel: As opposed to people yelling at them for not playing the "right" way with all items and random stages? Every damn person outside of the community yells at them for playing it at a competitive stage (or "the wrong way") so it's no wonder they get defensive; there's a few crazies out there but I hear far more people complaining about competitive Smash existing than people complaining about playing it as a party game.

Also for the record they do play more stages than Final Destination, counter picking stages is a large part of the strategy.

#5 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

Not sure what the demo contains but possibly. I really enjoyed the actual missions but hated navigating around the city in between them, I play stealth games as a pacifist so having to go through the same area with the same guard patterns every single time I wanted to get around anywhere killed it for me, had the same issue with Thief 3.

It goes on sale pretty often, I've seen it at $15 quite a few times and I think there was a Steam sale where it was $7.50? If you liked the demo and the genre probably worth it on a sale.

#6 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

@akeldama said:

There was a demo for that on Hitman: Blood Money for PS2 and I thought it seemed neat when I was 14 or so, does that count as playing it?

#7 Edited by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

This is about 2 weeks old at this point and OP only has one post so likely doesn't matter much, but here's some helpful links.

  • Vesper Arcade has an incredibly in depth video series on the mechanics of Street Fighter. It goes over everything from the incredibly basic such as movement options, attack buttons, and how to focus attack to more advanced stuff such as plinking, option selects, and how the combo mechanics actually work. I'd recommend watching everything, but if you feel you're above the basic beginner stuff start with Chapter 7 (the one I linked).

  • Patrick Miller created a free ebook about how to begin playing fighting games. The first chapter is a lot of fluff but after that it gets more into the psychology behind why players do what they do as well as defining a lot of terms you've probably heard but may not know exactly what it means (meaty attacks, frame traps and such).
  • While we're talking about reading, Seth Killian did a series for the website Shoryuken years ago called Domination 101 where he talked about some of the psychology that goes into a match. This was Seth in his younger days so it's a bit of a tougher read but worth it nonetheless. The first one I linked to is "On Cheapness" which is a common term you hear in fighting games, he has ~10 more after that touching on some similar subjects as Patrick Millers book and a few others.
  • UltrachenTV is a series run by David Graham and James Chen, better known as Ultradavid and... James Chen. If you've watched a lot of Street Fighter 4 events there's a very good chance you've heard these two on commentary; they're some of the best in the business when it comes to such. Both have an incredible level of knowledge about the game, mechanics, and match ups. James Chen specifically hosts a show called "First Attack" where he goes over basics to teach players how to get into it, similar to the Day[9] Daily if you're at all familiar with him. I've linked the video on "Learning Street Fighter for beginners" but he also covers more specific topics such as showing off option selects, frame traps, how to read an opponent and review your own matches along with a bunch of other things (also for most recent fighting games they do an episode where they invite a fairly knowledgeable player of the game/series to come on and explain things further, the most recent is Under Night In-Birth along with many others. The VF5 one was especially interesting to me since I have no background in the series and LA Akira does a fantastic job of breaking it down, so if there's other games you're interested in check them out as well). They also did a video where they covered the most basic of basics such as movement options in a more brief version of the early Vesper Arcade videos.
  • Once you feel you're past the more basic stuff Ultrachen also does a show called Lv3 Focus where UltraDavid looks at more advanced tactics and analyzes matches. I don't think he's quite as good as explaining stuff as James Chen but something to look at, just look at UltraChenTV's channel and you can find them. Lv3 Focus is also where they do the more in-depth look at fighting games that I mentioned above, and for USF4 they went through every character and did a brief overview of them as well.
  • After you're feeling good about all the mechanics and are looking for more character specific tactics, the Shoryuken Forums are the place to look. Most the character specifc forums have threads pinned to the top about most of the stuff you'd want to know. There's usually a thread for combos, match-ups, option selects and video critics for each character, and some such as the Abel and Sakura forums also have beginner threads where they go over each move and what it's uses are. A lot of them are out of date (many dating back to Super) but overall they're a good resource.
  • While you're out there practicing, Patrick Miller is also currently doing a series called Lab Notes where he covers a large variety of topics ranging from how to approach training mode to avoiding burn out on the game. Some of them are good, others not so much but worth a look.
  • If you're at the point where you feel good about your character and the mechanics, the Shoryuken Wiki has everyone's frame data along with their changes in USF4
  • Finally, if you're at this point and don't know where to go from here, watch some damn matches of your character being played by pros and see what they do. Just jump on YouTube and start searching.

Fighting games are one of the toughest genres of games to get into and get good at. Most of the players you watch at tournaments that make things look easy have YEARS of experience behind them; people like Justin Wong and Alex Valle have been playing these games for over a decade. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work to get good at them, but there's few games that I feel are as rewarding to be good at. The resources are out there for you to get good at them, you just need to use them. Outside of a bunch of videos and reads, the best thing you can do is keep playing. Play in training mode practice combos, playing online, playing other people, playing in tournaments, doesn't matter just play. Hope that helps some!

#8 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

Ditto on Ghost Trick, also if you have a DS, there always the Phoenix Wright Games and the 999/Zero Escape series. And while not strictly solely a mystery game, you can't go wrong with Deadly Premonition when looking for crazy twists and turns.

Ditto all of these. Ghost Trick is also on iOS now I think as are the early Phoenix Wright games and 999 may be on there or is still coming?

Also LA Noire is on sale for $6 on Steam right now until 10AM PDT tomorrow.

#9 Posted by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

I'd forgotten that the Pathologic Kickstarter started up, one of the few games I'd back without much thought, and looking at it seems like it'll make its goal pretty easily.

#10 Edited by L1GHTN1N (457 posts) -

@benmo316: On Polygon they had a quote saying there'd be remakes like Wario Gold Mine from the Wii and new courses as well.