Suing Sony

I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism, I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions.  The lack of security, the removal of promised functionality, and the most grievous error, keeping us in the dark about our personal security has pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry Sony, but you have failed miserably.

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Posted by l4wd0g

I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism, I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions.  The lack of security, the removal of promised functionality, and the most grievous error, keeping us in the dark about our personal security has pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry Sony, but you have failed miserably.

Posted by JJOR64

Well, good luck with that.

Posted by Dany

Has a class action been filed yet?

Posted by President_Barackbar

You aren't serious are you? You might want to take a few steps back and take a good, hard look at the situation and then realize its not worth it. And then, you can thank me for calming you down.

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Posted by ThatFrood
@l4wd0g said:
" I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism, I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions.  "
These two things aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, capitalism necessitates the latter.
Posted by rflx

You must be american.

Posted by wickedsc3
@Dany said:
" Has a class action been filed yet? "
No but im sure there will be.  As it seems they should have notified people that their info could have been accessed day 1.
Posted by MooseyMcMan

Don't be an ass. Nothing is completely secure. Hackers could get into the most hardened and secure system on the planet if they tried hard enough. 


So far as the other stuff goes, there's probably something in the long-ass agreement you have to agree to in order to create a PSN account that covers it. 
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Posted by DeeGee

If you want to waste a bunch of money, go ahead : D

Posted by Everyones_A_Critic

To the hacker that has brought Sony to its knees: Please don't steal my credit card. My bank account is low enough as it is, all you'd end up with is $5, some mixed change, and a few dead flies.

Posted by barberforce

Mate GOOD LUCK!! Sony will pull out some Suprise Butt Sex on you! I would only be bothered if PSN was a subscription

Posted by marvin_martian

Their security was obviously breached, and took the service down to try and help protect everything.  Along the way they are finding out exactly what happened and are trying to tell us as they find out.  Sony is as in the dark as we are I think.  Good luck proving otherwise in court.

Posted by DAFTPUNK

good luck!

Posted by blueduck
@l4wd0g said:
" I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism, I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions.  The lack of security, the removal of promised functionality, and the most grievous error, keeping us in the dark about our personal security has pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry Sony, but you have failed miserably. "
There will most likely be a big grouped law suit filled with a well known attorney. 
Posted by FancySoapsMan

I think we should be angry at whoever hacked the PSN, not at Sony.

Posted by Surkov
@rflx said:
" You must be american. "
Posted by ssj4raditz

This can only end well.

Posted by wrathofconn

Guys, it's ok. The Law Dog is here.

Posted by troll93
@l4wd0g said:
" I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism "
Then you are my enamie, time for the Socialst Revelution
Posted by lavaman77

Oh, My Hero!

Posted by Skytylz
@Surkov said:
" @rflx said:
" You must be american. "
"
You guys must be the non-Americans that seem to pop up in every thread and tell us how much better you are than us!
Posted by napalmtrees
@wrathofconn said:
" Guys, it's ok. The Law Dog is here. "
That made me laugh so hard.  I love you.
Posted by S0ndor

You won't. Period.

Posted by rflx
@Skytylz said:
" @Surkov said:
" @rflx said:
" You must be american. "
"
You guys must be the non-Americans that seem to pop up in every thread and tell us how much better you are than us! "
I did no such thing. But since you mention it, we are kind of better, since we don't have the automatic impulse of suing over dumb shit.
That's right, I said it.

Posted by Scooper
@rflx said:
" You must be american. "
Posted by CommodoreGroovy

I say we create a gang of hackers to stop the hackers that are messing with sony. Those hackers have extended their powers for too long, and they must be stopped for the order of the cyberverse!

Posted by Skytylz
@rflx: 
Edited by Boom_goes_the_dynamite

This is nothing against the OP but this topic, and most seemingly dumb lawsuits, make me think about the South Park Scientology episode, especially this scene.  
  

Posted by mayafey

Why not sue the hackers?


Oh wait, you just want to get some money out of Sony. Right?
Posted by rflx
@Skytylz said:
" @rflx: 
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Posted by Fallen189
@rflx said:
" @Skytylz said:
" @Surkov said:
" @rflx said:
" You must be american. "
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You guys must be the non-Americans that seem to pop up in every thread and tell us how much better you are than us! "
I did no such thing. But since you mention it, we are kind of better, since we don't have the automatic impulse of suing over dumb shit.
That's right, I said it.

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Posted by PrivateIronTFU
@CommodoreGroovy said:
" I say we create a gang of hackers to stop the hackers that are messing with sony. Those hackers have extended their powers for too long, and they must be stopped for the order of the cyberverse! "
Those hackers will inevitably become power hungry, and turn into the very thing they're trying to destroy! 
Posted by ryanwho

You must be American, because you have a problem with your private information leeking. Nanny state monkeys are used to violations of civil liberties, they wouldn't blink an eye at this.

Posted by Karkarov

Actually there is plenty of legal grounds for suing sony.  It is all but guaranteed that a suit will happen and I am sure tons of people will be involved in it.

Posted by Kandycane2029
@MooseyMcMan said:
" Don't be an ass. Nothing is completely secure."
There's no sure-fire way to keep people from accessing secure servers. It could happen to any company at any time.
Posted by Claude

Can I sue Nintendo for their lack of online functionality? And the lack of 1:1 ratio with the Wii Remote when the Wii was released?

Posted by ryanwho
@Claude said:
" Can I sue Nintendo for their lack of online functionality? And the lack of 1:1 ratio with the Wii Remote when the Wii was released? "
No because that's a stupid fucking comparison. Meanwhile, there's legal precedent for suing based on what happened with Sony.
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@l4wd0g said:

" I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism, I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions.  The lack of security, the removal of promised functionality, and the most grievous error, keeping us in the dark about our personal security has pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry Sony, but you have failed miserably. "

Just don't make any rap videos or ask us for money when you can't pay your lawyer or whatever.
Posted by TurboMan
@MooseyMcMan said:
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there's probably something in the long-ass agreement you have to agree to in order to create a PSN account that covers it. 
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This.
Posted by ryanwho
@TurboMan said:
" @MooseyMcMan said:
"
there's probably something in the long-ass agreement you have to agree to in order to create a PSN account that covers it. 
"
This. "
I'm not sure why you think they would account for something in the fine print that they clearly didn't prepare their network for.
Posted by natetodamax
@rflx said:
" You must be american. "
Hahahaha
Posted by rflx
@ryanwho said:
" You must be American, because you have a problem with your private information leeking."


But seriously, people should only sue if they have been severely harmed, physically or financially. I would dare to say that we haven't reached that point yet.
Posted by MooseyMcMan
@ryanwho said:
" @TurboMan said:
" @MooseyMcMan said:
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there's probably something in the long-ass agreement you have to agree to in order to create a PSN account that covers it. 
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This. "
I'm not sure why you think they would account for something in the fine print that they clearly didn't prepare their network for. "
Because lawyers will think of things that engineers won't. 
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Posted by mrv321
@l4wd0g said:

" I think I'm finally at that point. While I'm a firm believer in Capitalism, I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions.  The lack of security, the removal of promised functionality, and the most grievous error, keeping us in the dark about our personal security has pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry Sony, but you have failed miserably. "

So let me get this straight... I am having a real diffuculty with your post.

You have no idea, what so ever about what happend do you?

' I also belive in holding people (and corporations) accountable for their actions' I don't think it was Sony that hacked their own server... actually no your right I'm sure Sony wanted this to happen so they hacked themselves for the good publicitiy.

' The lack of security' Again, lack of is different to insufficent, I am not suing my government for lack of sucirity if my house is broken into. Do you really think Sony went 'Well our stuff isn't encrypted should we do something about this? No not really.' I have an encrypted file it's DEAD easy to do and I'm sure Sony has the same, I'm not hacker but I'd imagine that AT best at the moment all these users have is the encrypted folders and files, and UNTILL you are effected you have no right what so ever in suing Sony you self rightous. Heck, if you steal my laptop you'd HAVE all of my stuff, but it'd take you a MILLION years to force the details out, it's 768bit encryption, Sony's probably using the same.

' The removal of promised functionality, ' Linux right? You have a PC right? INSTALL LINUX ON YOUR COMPUTER IT'LL RUN BETTER. MY 850Mhz 256mb ram computer runs Linux better than my PS3 which I used, I'm not suing sony and nor should you. Your complaining because you like to, you don't really care Linux is gone, because it WASN'T really there. Download Ubuntu 11.10 and then put it on your PC then talk to me about it.

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keeping us in the dark about our personal security has pushed me over the edge' Oh you work on servers? Excellent. No? Then shut-up, do you have any idea what the staff who haven't slept for days are going through, basically they received a warning then PULLED EVERYTHING. I don't think you suing them will make the situation any better, so do CORRECT thing, cancel your card and then SHUT UP. Amazon went down, I'm not suing Amazon, because a server is incredibly complex, MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. It's not all Windows GUI you know, there's code, work in the terminal learn C++ or what ever then, and ONLY THEN can you imagine how long it takes to resolve a problem on this scale.
Posted by ryanwho

I'd say having to change your bank account information because of an unprepared-for leak (apparently my autocorrect knew about the plant) but multiplied by several million people should be catalyst enough for Sony to offer some kind of settlement so they don't fucking bankrupt themselves over this.

Posted by carlthenimrod

You should sue them for something worse like PS Home.. I still have nightmares...

Posted by LiquidS
@rflx said:
" You must be american. "
Posted by Jeust

Good luck, and have Batman!

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Posted by DetectiveSpecial

It is fairly standard liability coverage in most EULA agreements that the information you give the holder is not their responsibility. Also, as people voluntarily gave their information to Sony, there is no civil liberty being violated. 


That being said, it appears that Sony posted todays update (confirming the possible theft of personal information) only after they were contacted by a Congressman about the issue. So fuck 'em, as that certainly makes it appear that they knew of the personal information breach but didn't want to admit it to avoid negative publicity. 
Posted by Napalm

I don't think Sony has confirmed cards being stolen. I know it seems like a serious situation, and it is, but take some deep breaths and lets see what Sony has dug up.

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