LegendaryChopChop

@humanity Well certainly companies going under is not something I like, but I can't imagine that used game sales are the only reason for it, considering that a first sale was still made on those games to at least insert the game into the used marketplace, and it's not the same single copy going around. I think that companies like that are sticking or heading towards digital distribution as there are no fears of used copies eating into their sales and it is cheaper to do in the long run.

Also, I also don't mind shoehorned multiplayer modes so as long as they're designed fairly well, a lot of single-player focused games have had surprisingly engaging multiplayer modes. Even then, a bonus mode is a bonus mode, can't complain about more options, necessarily.

Not true, exactly.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-on-ps4-used-games-we-are-going-to-do-the-right-thing-6404470

This quote, while it could be out of context, does sort of claim that a disc would be able to be distributed to console-to-console without an ID lock associated with it. But, we don't know for sure, certainly it's not absolute like Microsoft's has been claimed to be.

Also, you seem a little arrogant to your opinions beaming as fact. EA doesn't exactly equalize all platforms in terms of how they have content distributed or laid out. The EA games on Wii U, such as Mass Effect 3, have no DLC available for it on the store, which, you would think they would put out, due to it making them more money: but they don't.

I really think it's funny you're trying to sound like an educator as it persists to how "second-hand gaming was accepted", as if you know the industry from that angle. It was not just a marketing tool, if they even used it as such as a point. I'm pretty sure that used gaming wasn't necessarily used as a "boost" or "hype", more so a given task granted to the lack of technology there used to prohibit pre-owned sales in the first place, given it was a newer industry at the time.

Basically, you don't know and I don't know. So please don't act like you know.

Your acceptance into this "inevitable" fetal position about the future of games comes across as a little sardonic, but unfortunately it seems true. I find it a little unnerving that you're so happy to accept a future that basically isn't all that inevitable because, as far as we know, the PS4 isn't doing some of these things that the One is doing as it pertains to used copies.

Is it too late to want online passes back?

Lol at this whole conference. What a terrible showing.

You can use your Kinect for 360 bullshit right now, and I never use it. It's horrible and makes you feel like a terrible person. I can't imagine being in a crowded room and yelling "turn TV on ESPN!" to your damned video game console.

Cable sucks, and the fact that 360 is partnering with it as a straddling-point for their new console is extremely agitating.

And the layout they showed? Doesn't matter, seeing as Microsoft has completely overhauled the dashboard every year pretty much. Plus, it looks like more ads which doesn't exactly enchant me. Looks like bullshit and an insult that we pay for service that is full of more ads than the last one.

Also, people mocking others for a used game market are painfully dumb and hiveminds to an infrastructure based upon company's profit margins and not the consumer's benefit.

For example, if you wait a week or so after a game releases, you can, and I have done so, find games for amounts upwards to half-off what they cost new just because some guy opened it. Once used games are totally gone, I find it hard to believe you'll be able to find a store (digital marketplace or whatever) and pick up a copy of a game for 2.99.

Inevitability or not, the digital games marketplace needs to prove itself more before ousting a valid market and business prosperity in a used games depository. The fact that Xbox On Demand has games for prices much higher than the used equivalent show that they have a long way to go.

Account-locked bullshit is a terrible thing no matter what it is. This "fee" system? Give me a break, this is just all kinds of horrible in the making. If anything, they should have an Apple-esque licensing system to 5 other devices you could affiliate to you, or something akin to the PS3 "gameshare" which was abused, no doubt, but basically hurt nobody in the process.

All of this just kind of sucks. The PS4 reveal was much more satisfying as somebody who cares more about video games than looking like an asshole switching between shit on my TV that I can, you know, do with my computer and tablet.

Looks like Microsoft's ego did get the best of them.

Gross presentation, very meh console. Plus it's super fat.

This is excellent news, online passes just further alienated people from playing against others online.

But let's hope this doesn't make way for something worse...

Fucking people on here can be the worst, but it's nobody I know that would actually be a premium member here. It reminds me of when people stole Vinny's StarCraft CD key on that stream, and then these hacks and exploits somewhere among us (hopefully not people who are truly site-diehards), do some crap like this.

Great for the puppy pictures, but shame on whoever did this exploit. Hopefully all returns to normal.

I'm no gun nut, not by any means whatsoever. I don't have a gun, nor do I ever plan to get one, but I always thought it was pretty cool for shooters to have real guns if it's supposed to depict a real-life scenario, or something very realistic that COD and Battlefield try to portray. I always appreciated the authenticity.