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Something my father use to say. The current state of comments.

I guess,

Like with most things in life or on the internet this was to be expected. I have been noticing the comments here getting worse by the day.

I find myself enjoying a great number of videos on giantbomb. I then glance down at the comments to see a torrent of horse cock in the comments.

Here is where my fathers saying comes in, The saying is, "You can't win for loosing." I don't know where exactly that comes from. It normally is said when everything you attempt to do goes tits up for no damn good reason. In this case You are doing things and everybody is bitching for no good reason.

A few examples,

You do a video with double fine, and harmonix that are both pretty damn great. Glance at the comments "I AM SO SICK OF ALL THESE QUICK LOOK EX'S!!! YOU'VE DONE TOO MANY!"

You don't do a video because there really isn't anything worth a shit going on, and half your staff is out of the office first thing you post after a couple days gets comments of "HOLY SHIT DO MORE CONTENT!"

Jeff does a video for a game he isn't really feeling and states as much before starting the video (which is reflected in his lack of interest in the game but still gives a pretty long look of something he's not enjoying) "YOU GUYS ARE JUST PHONING THIS SHIT IN NOW IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, JUST DON'T DO A VIDEO!" or "THIS MAKES THE GAME LOOK BAD HOW DARE YOU!"

Brad plays a game... If he takes his time "I HATE THE WAY HE PLAYS HE'S TOO CAREFUL AND ANAL!" If he just rushes like he normally does without giving at shit "BRAD HAS NO SKILL AS A GAME PLAYER! HE'S SO BAD I QUESTION IF HE HAS EVER PLAYED A GAME!"

Patrick is in the quick look, "STFU PATRICK YOU HIPSTER!" , "RANDOM UNJUST HATRED!" , "FUCK YOUR HAIR!" , and so on so forth. The guy really iesn't all that bad you should give him a chance.

I could go on, I think they point is proven though. So you guys Want things but, Hate everything being done. Yes I know, "wecome to the internet" and all that. I uess since I've been here for a while. I expected a higher form of cretin to be here.

So john drake sparkle crotch is not wanted because your sick of quick look EX's also happy action theater is gone too. Even Ryan screaming at poor german fellows to "GET THAT CHEST, GET THAAT CHEST!!" is out as well. All because there are 2 letters that don't always mean the same thing at the end of it. I pretty much say, "Fuck You!" to that very notion. If the devs would of wanted to sit in on "Pid" I guess you assholes would of also thought it was a crime against man to have yet another EX? Instead of brad playing it. Honestly this is just silly and the point being. They can't win so back to the saying "They can't win for loosing!"

I for one have enjoyed everything I have watched the past few months. And I'm working myself back into the habit of not looking down at the comments...

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@linus_south said:

Patrick is in the quick look, "FUCK YOUR HAIR!" , and so on so forth.

Are you sure you're capturing the proper tone?

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@Sploder said:

@Paul_Is_Drunk said:

You can't win for loosing? What are we loosing? Does it have something to do with the aforementioned horse cock?

Oh, and welcome to the internet. You claim to have already been welcomed, but I don't think you have. Some of us have been here since the mid-90s. Don't worry. You'll get the hang of it. The most important part is that you expressed your opinion that you don't like others' opinions, and won't be reading them... and that it's important that we know this. EDIT: Also, loosing horse cock.

My greatest fear is horse cock being on the loose.

Don't fear it! It would bring such unexpected positive change.

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Before you write a negative comment, think if it's constructive criticism. If it's not, don't post.

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@killacam said:

this guy are sick

Your father used to say, "Ok, its my turn." Can you turn that into a blog?

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Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I pretty much avoid reading the comments or forums anymore. If I remember correctly, the new site design is going to have some kind of downvoting system for posts like YouTube? We'll see how that pans out.

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Just ignore the comments and enjoy the videos. Complaining about people complaining is a waste of time.

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@ProfessorEss said:

I kind of think Giant Bomb is reaping what they sow. Yes the internet is a pretty negative place in general, but I think the negativity of the staff is directly encouraging and nurturing the negativity of this community.

Exactly. Granted it's their web site and they can behave in any damn way they please, but I do wish some maturity from them when it comes to certain issues. It was fine when this web site was still new and the community was small so people kinda understood and dug their "quirky" behavior but as the site grows they also need to do some changes and maybe look how they behave. I used to watch every video contant they posted but in the last two year I stooped watching almost all of their video content and just kinda browse the forums and read the articles.

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@TaliciaDragonsong
Yeah, this is human nature.
People are spoiled as shit, they can't appreciate what they have and just hoard them games as if they're status symbols.
Go fucking play that backlog, go make your own videos and website, or just shut the fuck up and enjoy what other people are busting their chops to make.
If people were never critical there would be no feedback for content makers to figure out where they need to improve. The problem isn't people being critical. And the complete lack of would be as bad of a problem. The real issue stands that most people dont know how to properly frame their criticism in a well thought out manner.
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@Demoskinos: I endorse people being critical but as you said it rarely comes out well.
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@Vinny_Says: He was a southern gentleman with a 4th grade education. He worked in a field half of his life. I never said he was smart or the saying way great. He also had such gems as "Keep it up, You'll be foot back a walkin'!" Which it took me till my teenage years to understand that translated to "Keep running your mouth or I'll toss you out of my car!"

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@wjb said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

Has anyone actually ever insulted Patrick's hair? I'd think his hair would be a unifying force of goodness.

I forgot who it was -- I suppose it doesn't matter -- but there was one member giving a handful of frivolous reasons for disliking Patrick in one of the many anti-Patrick threads, and hair was one of them. I hope he was kidding, but he was a little too bothered by Patrick's hair. It became ugly.

Also: RANDOM UNJUST HATRED!

Mainly pointing out they find the dumbest reasons to hate on him, and yes that was a really poor joke on that comment about his hair.

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THESE ARE MY 15 MINUTES!!!! DON'T TAKE THIS FROM MEEE!!!

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@linus_south:

Just stop reading the comments dude.

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@RollingZeppelin said:

Surely it should be "you can't win for losing" not loosing?

For the love of all that is holy.

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telling people not to complain is kinda dumb too. i mean i know alot of the complaints are stupid, but some of them are pretty valid. getting pissy about people getting pissy is pretty pissy. ya know?

and quick look EX's do kinda suck. i get why they exist to build goodwill with the developers and shit, but they arent super interesting to watch, feels like someones trying to sell me something, they always feel really staged and fake too.

i have noticed a decrease in quality of content since they were bought by CBSi, but whatever, just means i changed my mind about finally subbing is all.

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@linus_south: I was just kidding about your father. My point was that you're better off just ignoring the comments and enjoy the videos, nothing will ever change below those vids/articles, no matter how hard you try.

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Some people want to watch the world burn.

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@linus_south said:

"Keep it up, You'll be foot back a walkin'!" ... translated to "Keep running your mouth or I'll toss you out of my car!"

Presumably, it should be, "Keep running your mouth and I'll toss you out of my car!"

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I do very much sympathize TC. I look at those comments (can't help myself) and just wonder what kind of people have that much anger in their lives that they'll lash out against the people who run the site that they love, right to their faces sometimes. Giving constructive criticism and being a dick are two extremely different things.

That is, as they say, the internet though. I've started to make a point of taking the time to post in nearly every video I watch, just to say something constructive or positive (if it's deserved); simple, small steps to help drown out the negativity and make the internet a better place for everyone.

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Case in point: go read the troll article Patrick's linking to in the latest Worth Reading. Trolls will be trolls, haters gonna hate, the world keeps spinning, news at 11.

And it's all the same horsecock, I truly agree with the OP, but what are you going to do do? Bunch of immature wankers on this site, same as everywhere.

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Unfortunately, people like to complain and there is absolutely no drawback for complaining on the internet. In real life, socially competent people learn what to say and what not to say, in given situations. We watch what we say and who we say it to because we know that there are social rules and etiquette.

That doesn't exist on the internet. A lot of people feel as if they are free to vent and say whatever they want because there is no drawback, no punishment, no downside to saying whatever it is they want to say. Realize that while there are naturally polite and nice people in society, most of us only ACT polite because we fear the consequences if we don't. It's a sad thing to realize, but it is the truth.

Just don't read the comments if they get to you. I've largely stopped reading the comments. And at the end of the day, they're just jerky comments by jerks. You can just ignore them.

As for the site content, I like most of it, dislike a bit of it, but that's the same with every website.

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i agree with most of what the op said. Except for the thing about games that they have no interest in. I would like them to cover it seriously try to get someone who is as close to "cares" as possible. For those of you who cant read my mind, for the most part, i dont care about the games they arent interested in, if its a game im interested in, the info they are giving me is enough to get me thru. There is a specific game that the video really made feel super sad about because it was something i really cared about, metal gear solid collection, specifically peacewalker. That quicklook was sooo painful and it was apparent they really didnt care, to the point where it hurt. Now this is metal gear solid. you are telling me that there was no one in the whiskey media offices to jump in? I mean look who they pulled in for the magic the gathering quicklook. Now some will argue that this is a HDification, and i know how the games should play (except for peacewalker). Well, not everyone has played this game and could have been checking it out for the first time. BUT I DIGRESS.

As for Patrick. I like him, he brings about a certain type of conversation, ie he always talks about games like an art form, like we are all standing in a museum looking at pieces. And the problem comes up bc people are used to crazy comedy peppered thru quicklooks, and Patrick murders it hard. Now its not a bad thing, but there is a void when Patrick is in the quicklook instead of someone else. He keeps it intellectual. And he does get in there with jokes but its not the same as Jeff/Vinny/Ryan. I mean go listen to the the bombcast that had Vinny, Ryan and Jeff, that podcast is probably one of the funniest i have heard in a very long time. Patrick is fine, he is an ok person ( i dont know him personally) but i can see where some people just generate dislike towards him.

Btw, Brad is also good but in my opinion he is at his best when he is on the tested podcast, my god the difference between that Brad and the Brad we are accustomed too is night and day.

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@linus_south said:

@RollingZeppelin said:

Surely it should be "you can't win for losing" not loosing?

For the love of all that is holy.

What? I genuinely want to know, you did mean to write "losing" didn't you?

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@RollingZeppelin said:

@linus_south said:

@RollingZeppelin said:

Surely it should be "you can't win for losing" not loosing?

For the love of all that is holy.

What? I genuinely want to know, you did mean to write "losing" didn't you?

Yes, Yes I did. I have been feeling bad. I did not think it would effect my writing that bad. I honestly can't believe I didn't at least do losing once. I did catch a number of other things like "Iesn't" after the fact & just let it go because I expected crickets to this post. Little did I know... Oh well, Can't win for losing!

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Different people think different things. More news at 11.

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@Paul_Is_Drunk: The thing is I maybe the oldest person involved in this conversation. Not too sure as I don't know every ones age of course. I have been on the internet since the amiga days, Ran a BBS in the C=64 days, And paid way too much for a 300 baud modem just to host said BBS. I've been here a long time. Half of what I wrote was as reactionary as the comments I am talking about. As a half ass'd way to point out it's all kind of stupid. I have had nothing, But a good time with all of the giant bomb community I've interacted with. This is more or less me wondering out loud where all the hate is coming from.

I also wrote this in haste In the middle of the night while fighting a number of health factors that made my mind not exactly focus on the task at hand. I am not the strongest writer in the first place, So there are parts of this that went to complete shit.... With that said, I did have it in mind that much like the people that post the hateful comments I would not re-read it and just fire it off as is. Being that I have never got more than 10 or so comments to anything I've done on here, I didn't think anyone would even care or notice.

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Didn't he mean "You can't win for losing"? Also what does that mean?

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@ProfessorEss said:

I kind of think Giant Bomb is reaping what they sow. Yes the internet is a pretty negative place in general, but I think the negativity of the staff is directly encouraging and nurturing the negativity of this community.

Yup I think so too , a lot of people on the community are heavely influenced by the staff personalities , from Jeff "Ughs" and overall jadedness to appreciate stupid things "ironically" the tone of the community reflects that of the staff both positvely and negatively.