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#1 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

90% of anything that comes out of Patrick's mouth. 70% of anything that comes out of Jeff's mouth.

#2 Edited by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

If yo eat any kind of mayonnaise you're a horrible person. Don't support companies who create such filth. Quit funding terrorists.

#3 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

And by "kiss on the cheek" you mean "hickey on the neck." Yeah I thought everyone knew hickeys can cause blood clots or something that can lead to death...

#4 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

Cadbury eggs are disgusting. They are waaaaay too sweet with way too much creme. I feel like I'm at risk for diabetes if I eat just one of those.

#5 Edited by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

@Questionable said:

@Lobster_Ear said:

I don't refrain from killing people because of God or a collective societal agreement on the immorality of it. I don't kill people because I am able to put myself in their shoes. I am human just as they are and my life is not more valuable than theirs. If I did kill someone it would eat away at my conscious due to overwhelming guilt and regret. That feeling is not instilled in me through religious or societal morality. It is instilled in me through empathy which is ingrained in almost all of us from the start.

Empathy and moral are two entirely seperate entities. Empathy is part of our nature and what we are born with. Morals are something you are taught during life. Why do you think people have so much trouble with abortion and euthenasia laws. These are grounds where morals and empathy often collide.

If i see a person suffering i naturally feel empathy and would a feel a urge to try to alleviate that pain. if anything i would compare it to instinct. Morally i can dispute it is not my own responsibility to act or that the person somehow deserves what is being inflicted.

Even if one morally decides they should not act that wont eliminate your sympathy towards the person. and vica versa. they are two seperate things that co-exist. Many animals show empathy yet morality is something i consider exclusive to humans.

I never said they were the same. They overlap, but they aren't the same. I'm simply saying that we don't need morality to guide us. It is instilled in most people to not kill or do bad things for no reason due to empathy. Sure, people kill due to momentary lapses of reason, crimes of passion and such, but those instances are part of the basic human condition as well, whether you're a religious moral crusader or an atheist. The basic rules like don't kill, steal, etc. are ingrained in us from the get go. There would be utter chaos if they weren't. People usually have to be pushed to do really bad things. Morality is not needed. It was created to control people.

Also, what's wrong with abortion and euthanasia?. I have no qualms with either. People make those issues a moral argument because, like I said, it's all about control, but if you look at it logically without throwing religion into the argument there is no issue. People should be free to commit suicide, if not you don't truly own yourself, which is a scary concept and fetuses aren't people and in early stages they are just cells. They don't have the brain function to know they exist, so again not an issue if you use logic and it in no way collides with empathy.

And for the person saying guilt is a social construct. Bullshit. It is a human construct. Of course there are cases where people feel guilty for merely breaking the law, but that doesn't mean that guilt is only a social construct. It is first and foremost part of our humanity and it ties right into empathy in most cases dealing with wronging someone else.

#6 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

@Questionable said:

@imsh_pl said:

@Questionable said:

In the end morals are just that, rules imposed by our surroundings. ever changing and never the same for 2 people

BS, morality can be reasoned. It's not subjective.

I would question that it is the exact opossite.

A very easy example would be the extreme reactions some muslims are currently having for that anti mohammed video. apparently a portion of this worlds inhabitants feel that they are morally obligated to murder those who offended "him who they love more than themselves"

This is just a single example how simply based on where, by who and in what age you are raised in can lead to vastly different ideas of morals. To believe morals come naturally i would call utterly naive, If anything it is a sign of civilization it is the very being that separates us from the other mammals.

I'll destroy your whole argument with one word. Empathy. Most people have it. It guides us more than any morals. Morality is subjective to a certain extent and it is used to control people and set boundaries in society, but EMPATHY is part of the human condition. That's what truly guides people.

I don't refrain from killing people because of God or a collective societal agreement on the immorality of it. I don't kill people because I am able to put myself in their shoes. I am human just as they are and my life is not more valuable than theirs. If I did kill someone it would eat away at my conscious due to overwhelming guilt and regret. That feeling is not instilled in me through religious or societal morality. It is instilled in me through empathy which is ingrained in almost all of us from the start.

So if the only thing stopping you from killing innocent people is God or the government telling you there will be repercussions, then you are a horrible despicable person.

So in conclusion, fuck morality.

#7 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

The Crooked Tooth

#8 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

I almost got fired for coming into work with a little stubble. I was told it was "completely unacceptable" and "I embarrassed" the manager. Keep in mind this was a new job and nobody told me a little facial hair was unacceptable. The manager sent me home early and told me if it happened again I would be discharged.

#9 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

@Klei said:

@Lobster_Ear said:

@Klei said:

@imsh_pl said:

I don't want to be rude or anything but I think you should consider the fact that a)the octopus would probably suffer just as much had it been eaten by a natural predator in its natural environment and b)livestock such as cows or pigs surely suffer a lot more during their lives because of poor living condisions than this octopus in its last 30 seconds, and that suffering is surely more common.

Natural selection is totally fine by me. But when speaking of humans having a good time chewing up live animals, it bothers me. I guess i'm a sensitive person.

What the fuck does any of what he said have to do with natural selection? Your argument is weak, bordering on incomprehensible and you're embarrassing yourself.

You don't need to be an over-aggressive and hostile prick all of a sudden. I didn't insult your mother, for fuck's sake. All I meant was that I didn't mind when animals ate one another for the sheer sake of survival. Also, my mother tongue isn't English, so when you bitch about my arguments being weak and incomprehensible and that I'm embarrassing myself, you're just being an asshole.

My mistake, you're not being aggressive all of a sudden, you've agressive since three pages ago.

Well I AM an over-aggressive and hostile prick and an asshole. Everything I said is still true. I'm sorry that I don't sprinkle a sugary coating on my thoughts. On second thought, I'm not sorry. People are too fucking sensitive and respectful of one another. It makes me sick.

#10 Posted by Lobster_Ear (284 posts) -

@Klei said:

@imsh_pl said:

I don't want to be rude or anything but I think you should consider the fact that a)the octopus would probably suffer just as much had it been eaten by a natural predator in its natural environment and b)livestock such as cows or pigs surely suffer a lot more during their lives because of poor living condisions than this octopus in its last 30 seconds, and that suffering is surely more common.

Natural selection is totally fine by me. But when speaking of humans having a good time chewing up live animals, it bothers me. I guess i'm a sensitive person.

What the fuck does any of what he said have to do with natural selection? Your argument is weak, bordering on incomprehensible and you're embarrassing yourself.