LordCmdrStryker

@YamiB said:

@vinsanityv22 said:

To be fair, we don't know shit about Trayvon Martin. Must you empathize with someone automatically? I'm not saying I agree with Fox News or anything (god no), I'm just saying all of this... it's sort of none of our business. We weren't there. Don't get sucked into the 24-hour news network hyperbole and soapboxing. For all we know, the kid could've been a dick - you certainly can't go by what his mother says about him. Fun Fact; all mothers say their kids are amazing. Watch a few episodes of The First 48 on A&E sometime and you'll see the relatives of murderers and criminals say nothing but wonderful things about 'em. Again, not saying anything about Trayvon Martin specifically - I just don't know any of the players in this whole situation personally, and I'd rather keep my nose out of all the hearsay and whatnot.

Or, I suppose, I'm just a bit of a sociopath. In which case, ignore my comments entirely. I do not want to get into a thing with the fine people of Giantbomb's Community...

Even if Trayvon was an asshole, that does not mean that some cop wannabe should have stalked him and shot him.

No kidding. You are a fucking sociopath, @vinsanityv22, if you think this kind of shit is okay. Go fucking kill yourself.

@jakonovski said:

Meh, you're just trying to redefine yourself out of a bind. This doesn't differ from a literary rewrite in any way except that the technology of computers and internet allows the whole process to be faster.

A book is written by one person. A game like this one is made by a company of dozens of people, taking millions of dollars and thousands of work hours. And the fact that you keep making an apples to apples comparison between them is ludicrous.

@ghoti221 said:

Wow. Just freakin' wow. Eternal September strikes agian.

The stupid thing is, I don't get what this buys Bioware. Do people honestly believe that by making this vocal group happy that they'll buy more Bioware content? And I don't get what this buys the people involved - are they going to retcon their memories and pretend the existing endings don't exist? I mean, once you've read the book, you've read the book - you read a revised edition of the book later, it still doesn't change the taste of the first reading.

I suppose this is a case of Bioware hoisted by their own petard - people go so invested in "their" story, they forgot that it's not really "their" story - it's a glorified Choose Your Own Adventure. I think the big takeaway from this is that no game design is going to allow this much customization again, because this proves you can't be all things to all people, and in the Internet world, people can scream loud and long, regardless of the value of their screaming.

JGH

+1000000 points. You are absolutely right, my friend.

This whole thing just amazes me. So what if they change the ending - how will you feel? "Man I'm sure glad I shouted and got mad so Bioware was forced to do this thing for me! That makes all the screaming and crying and articles and Youtube videos and petitions totally worthwhile! In fact, I don't even remember why I got mad in the first place!" Except that's totally bullshit and you will definitely remember what happened. It isn't going to magically change how you felt.

People who get so involved in shit like this need to get ahold of their lives. Is the ending lame? Yeah, it is. Do I care? Sort of, but I played and loved those games for hundreds of hours and I have a BRAIN IN MY HEAD SO I CAN MAKE UP MY OWN ENDING IF I FEEL LIKE IT. There's too much bad stuff going on in the world for me to devote to caring about inconsequential crap like this.

@Tennmuerti said:

@LordCmdrStryker said:

@big_jon said:

If they charge for an alternate ending that will be effed up, but changing the ending in general seems so dumb, where is the art in that?

I mean has this ever happened to a movie or book? It seems so juvenile.

I know, right?! I've bought tons of books that I haven't ultimately been satisfied with, but I didn't get mad and write the author demanding they change it. This whole fucking thing is stupid.

Happened more times then you can imagine. Look at one of the most prominent example in literary history: Sherlock Holmes Plenty of works over the years have retroactively changed their ending. The main difference is that videogames have the luxury of doing it on the fly in the exact same product due to their overall flexibility with downloadable content, whereas movies and books mostly do it through retconning in sequels.

Sherlock Holmes was written a hundred years ago!

What is the point of demanding they change it? Does it make you feel better about playing the game after you badger the company into doing what you want? You'll never forget the first thing you saw. It will always be there. Shall I take a power drill out and remove those memories from my skull?

@big_jon said:

If they charge for an alternate ending that will be effed up, but changing the ending in general seems so dumb, where is the art in that?

I mean has this ever happened to a movie or book? It seems so juvenile.

I know, right?! I've bought tons of books that I haven't ultimately been satisfied with, but I didn't get mad and write the author demanding they change it. This whole fucking thing is stupid.

@Klei said:

At the time, the liscence agreement contract did not claim that every single map created was theirs. Which means that, DoTA, even if well reknown amongst gamers, was really not Blizzard's. By hiring the original creator, who rightfully owned the rights the DotA, they also gained the right to work on the property and brand it with whatever name they please. Right now, Blizzard aren't trying to '' keep Valve from owning the name '', what Activision want behind this is to hamstring a seriously dangerous competitor and make money over this.

ICEFROG IS NOT THE CREATOR. PLEASE learn your fucking history. And how the fuck can "Activision" make money on a game that has been free for its entire lifetime? You don't think Valve wants to make shitloads of money on a game that is currently FREE? Good lord.

I'm surprised at how many people seem to be on Valve's side here. They're basically whole-cloth copying a free mod, including the name, and then either selling it all for a cost or slapping a whole shitload of microtransactions on it. There's no way it will be free. Are we really alright with this?

@nmarchan: I'm pretty sure all those mods you mentioned are still developed by the people who originally created them. Valve has nobody who made DOTA. They saw dollar signs after MOBAs took off and decided to make a grab.

@SlasherMan: I applaud your rationality, but really we should all just ignore that guy. When he's around he's never not complaining about something ridiculous.

A pretty awesome first day but there have been some ridiculous ideas funded through Kickstarter. The guy who wanted to make the dumb wristbands for the iPod Nano raised over a mil, which is nuts, though at the rate this one is going it seems that it could pass it easily. Big ups to old school game design.