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#1 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

@andymc1888: it's not going up on his feed until Tuesday.

#2 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

@hippie_genocide said:

@milkman said:

@manmadegod said:

@milkman said:

@athleticshark said:

@milkman: I'm not about to justify the news but at some point these are people making the decisions. Our culture and our country.

Also generalizing and relating the founding of our country to rioting leaves me speechless. A little thing called the revolutionary war happened.

Obviously, I would prefer if people didn't riot. But I'm not going to let that distract from the real issue here.

I'm not sure your point with your last statement. The United States of America was literally founded on riots and protest over taxes.

Just reading through the thread to catch up, and I can't help but comment on this. Comparing what happened in colonial America to Ferguson is disingenuous. I assume you are alluding to events such as the Boston Tea party, an event with a clear goal and message. Ferguson is chaos and looting as the family of the victim calls for peace. The concerns of the colonists were being aired for years before war broke out (ex: Virginia house of burgesses). These grievances were levied against a Parliamentary Monarchy, which is a far cry from means in which people in our society today can protest/change government. The events in Ferguson are a reaction to a single event of perceived injustice.

If Ferguson is in some way equivalent to the founding of the United States, then what protest isn't it comparable to.

Sorry, you are one hundred percent wrong here. Ferguson is not a reaction to a single event of perceived injustice. It's a reaction to hundreds and hundreds of years of injustice. If it wasn't Michael Brown, it would have been Eric Garner or Tamir Rice or Trayvon Martin. You are missing the big picture.

That being the case, Michael Brown is a bad jumping off point to bring into light police brutality towards minorities. Michael Brown isn't worthy of anyone's rage. He assaulted a police officer and got shot in the scrum that ensued. There's too much grey area here. Surely there are more clear cut examples of police wrongdoing than someone assaulting an officer and possibly trying to reach for his gun, isn't there? Something with no plausible deniability that everyone, black and white, can rally behind.

I won't call Michael Brown a victim, nor Officer Wilson a culprit. It was a tough situation that he was in. And I think it's a slippery slope to expect every police officer involved in a fatal shooting to have to go before a jury and acquit himself of his actions just so he can go back to work again.

Do you know what would have provided a clearing in some of the grey area surrounding this situation? A real trial.

I agree that there should have been a trial, but a jury acquitted Zimmerman, and people are still convinced of his guilt. Trayvon's name even came up in this topic.

#3 Edited by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

@milkman said:

@manmadegod said:

@milkman said:

@athleticshark said:

@milkman: I'm not about to justify the news but at some point these are people making the decisions. Our culture and our country.

Also generalizing and relating the founding of our country to rioting leaves me speechless. A little thing called the revolutionary war happened.

Obviously, I would prefer if people didn't riot. But I'm not going to let that distract from the real issue here.

I'm not sure your point with your last statement. The United States of America was literally founded on riots and protest over taxes.

Just reading through the thread to catch up, and I can't help but comment on this. Comparing what happened in colonial America to Ferguson is disingenuous. I assume you are alluding to events such as the Boston Tea party, an event with a clear goal and message. Ferguson is chaos and looting as the family of the victim calls for peace. The concerns of the colonists were being aired for years before war broke out (ex: Virginia house of burgesses). These grievances were levied against a Parliamentary Monarchy, which is a far cry from means in which people in our society today can protest/change government. The events in Ferguson are a reaction to a single event of perceived injustice.

If Ferguson is in some way equivalent to the founding of the United States, then what protest isn't it comparable to.

Sorry, you are one hundred percent wrong here. Ferguson is not a reaction to a single event of perceived injustice. It's a reaction to hundreds and hundreds of years of injustice. If it wasn't Michael Brown, it would have been Eric Garner or Tamir Rice or Trayvon Martin. You are missing the big picture.

Sorry, you are one hundred percent wrong about me being one hundred percent wrong :)

Regardless if it is or is not a reaction to one single event, your attempt to link Ferguson to the protest over British Colonial rule in the 1700's needed to be corrected. That was the main purpose of my post, and I'm glad you seem to have dropped that point.

@extomar said:

@manmadegod said:

@milkman said:

@athleticshark said:

@milkman: I'm not about to justify the news but at some point these are people making the decisions. Our culture and our country.

Also generalizing and relating the founding of our country to rioting leaves me speechless. A little thing called the revolutionary war happened.

Obviously, I would prefer if people didn't riot. But I'm not going to let that distract from the real issue here.

I'm not sure your point with your last statement. The United States of America was literally founded on riots and protest over taxes.

Just reading through the thread to catch up, and I can't help but comment on this. Comparing what happened in colonial America to Ferguson is disingenuous. I assume you are alluding to events such as the Boston Tea party, an event with a clear goal and message. Ferguson is chaos and looting as the family of the victim calls for peace. The concerns of the colonists were being aired for years before war broke out (ex: Virginia house of burgesses). These grievances were levied against a Parliamentary Monarchy, which is a far cry from means in which people in our society today can protest/change government. The events in Ferguson are a reaction to a single event of perceived injustice.

If Ferguson is in some way equivalent to the founding of the United States, then what protest isn't it comparable to.

So a little history lesson: The Seven Years War had a branch in the New World called by us as "French and Indian War" which was an astounding success. If you lived in the colonies out on the frontier, you were probably weeping for joy at the British Army breaking the back of French colonial aspirations in your backyard. The problem was that this success was expensive and labor intensive. Now they had a bunch of British troops stationed over here and spent a lot of money to win where the sensible thing to do from London's view was to order the states to host the army and apply taxes to help pay for the gigantic expense. For a lot of colonists, this made sense: American Colonies where the beneficiaries of the war where they should pay something for it isn't crazy or unreasonable.

At the start, it wasn't that any of the states were unhappy to host troops and pay taxes or that they weren't represented (as far as Parliament was concerned, states could ask Parliament to pass laws and acts just like any other constituents). The problem was a state would say "Lets do this tax" or "This is the best place to station troops" and some general or London would "We'll do this instead". Up until the final break a lot of people considered themselves British subjects and had no interests in breaking with 'home'. There is a lot of evidence lying around that if London had just said "Massachusetts (or whatever colony), you need to give us 1 million pounds. Raise it how ever you want" and negotiated like that then a lot of the problems and unrest would have been reduced.

Fun side note: This "mistake" was the basis of The English Civil War years before which is why a lot of left for America in the first place...

So now we see there is a place where the citizens have some complaints and suggestions but those in power appear to not listening or care about it. When the protests get bigger, instead of trying to find a solution and bring in those leaders to work out a solution, those in power bring in bigger troops. Yeah..its totally different.

I'm well aware of the history/build up to the American Revolution. I wasn't making the call of whether the "concerns of the colonists" were justified or not, just stating that they existed. But I agree with your last sentence, it is/was totally different.

#4 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

@stonyman65 said:

Reports of patrol rifles (M4s) being stolen from police cruisers

"Patrol rifle". Fucking hell, how is that a thing?

@manmadegod If you actually believe this is over a single injustice, and not decades of institutionalised injustice, you haven't been paying attention. This shit is the result of something much bigger than Michael Brown.

I would say that verdict of the grand jury regarding Darren Wilson is the reason for the protests in Ferguson right now. I'm paying 100% attention.

#5 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

@milkman said:

@athleticshark said:

@milkman: I'm not about to justify the news but at some point these are people making the decisions. Our culture and our country.

Also generalizing and relating the founding of our country to rioting leaves me speechless. A little thing called the revolutionary war happened.

Obviously, I would prefer if people didn't riot. But I'm not going to let that distract from the real issue here.

I'm not sure your point with your last statement. The United States of America was literally founded on riots and protest over taxes.

Just reading through the thread to catch up, and I can't help but comment on this. Comparing what happened in colonial America to Ferguson is disingenuous. I assume you are alluding to events such as the Boston Tea party, an event with a clear goal and message. Ferguson is chaos and looting as the family of the victim calls for peace. The concerns of the colonists were being aired for years before war broke out (ex: Virginia house of burgesses). These grievances were levied against a Parliamentary Monarchy, which is a far cry from means in which people in our society today can protest/change government. The events in Ferguson are a reaction to a single event of perceived injustice.

If Ferguson is in some way equivalent to the founding of the United States, then what protest isn't it comparable to.

#6 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

Just to be clear, support for Windows 7 does not end in Jan 2015. "Mainstream support" ends, but the OS will be getting security updates until 2020.

To this day I still don't understand the people that hate the Win8 interface. The desktop view is exactly the same as Windows 7. The start menu is used to pin program shortcuts just like the start menu in Win7, except the menu is full screen now. To each his own, I suppose.

#7 Edited by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

There is no reason for them to sell 3 day passes. They make more money if everyone buys three one day passes. I wonder how many they even offer.

#8 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

The Wyatt thing should have happened after the match. I don't understand how yet another fucky finish to a PPV main event is anything other than pathetic at this point. It is the go to thing for shitty creative. If Ambrose wins that match, what happens? Rollins doesn't look weaker, fuck you if you think so. When has taking a single loss, especially one in the Cell, ever made a guy look weak?

I agree. They have Mick Foley come out on RAW and talk about how Hell in a Cell can/will define a person's career, hype the feud up for months (Shield broke up in April) and then we get a shit no finish once again.

I've never been closer to ending my WWE Network Sub. That's cool that other people here enjoyed it, but I honestly feel like I could have just got the recap online instead of spending 3 hours watching the event.

#9 Edited by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

Everything about that main event was great . If you're whining about it , nothing will please you .

Yes, people who don't share your opinion are whiners. Sorry, but the ending sucked and ruined what could have been a classic match.

#10 Posted by ManMadeGod (1585 posts) -

I am not one to complain about WWE shows, as I usually enjoy them no matter what (low standards), but that was easily one of if not the worse endings to a WWE PPV I have ever seen. I feel like I just wasted my night watching this.