@hailinel: My stance has always been "it's weak for a Final Fantasy but excellent for a JRPG in general", especially with the slim pickings we saw for big console RPGs in the previous generation (and probably this generation, seeing how many there aren't for the PS4/XB1). I thought highly enough about it to include it on this list of recommendations, anyway. While the whole "corridors" and "20 hour tutorial" remarks kind of took on their own lives as obnoxious, repeated mantras about how terrible the game is from those who barely played it, there's at least some basis for those criticisms, as exaggerated as they ended up becoming. I've heard similar instantly dismissive arguments against Final Fantasy VIII, again from folk who didn't play much of it but had heard enough about it to know about the infamous "same orphanage" and "time compression" moments. While I can't easily refute some of the more problematic elements, there's always better aspects of the game to steer the conversation towards that people who were immediately critical of the game willfully overlook.