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So, i beat Mom on my first try.

Oh,Binding Of Isaac. A 2D randomly generated Dark Souls. With permadeath, and many of your powers and status depending or your LUCK, it's not hard to see many people saying "Man, i took 8 hours to beat Mom." and things like that. Hell, there's a thread like that here on Giant Bomb! There are even some blogs out there using The Binding Of Isaac to discuss death in videogames and shit like that... But the thing is, i couldn't join the Dead Party until my second try...

I think the game makes it harder for you if ou are very lucky once. And now, i'm 8 hours without beating Mom again, *le sigh*.

But at least i can say: "Man, i beat Mom in my first try." like it was a real achievement.

Yeah, i didn't killed her. BUT... I Beat her, and now Isaac is standing on her sleeping body. 'Cause real heros don't kill. See: Snake, Adam Jensen.
Yeah, i didn't killed her. BUT... I Beat her, and now Isaac is standing on her sleeping body. 'Cause real heros don't kill. See: Snake, Adam Jensen.
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Oh,Binding Of Isaac. A 2D randomly generated Dark Souls. With permadeath, and many of your powers and status depending or your LUCK, it's not hard to see many people saying "Man, i took 8 hours to beat Mom." and things like that. Hell, there's a thread like that here on Giant Bomb! There are even some blogs out there using The Binding Of Isaac to discuss death in videogames and shit like that... But the thing is, i couldn't join the Dead Party until my second try...

I think the game makes it harder for you if ou are very lucky once. And now, i'm 8 hours without beating Mom again, *le sigh*.

But at least i can say: "Man, i beat Mom in my first try." like it was a real achievement.

Yeah, i didn't killed her. BUT... I Beat her, and now Isaac is standing on her sleeping body. 'Cause real heros don't kill. See: Snake, Adam Jensen.
Yeah, i didn't killed her. BUT... I Beat her, and now Isaac is standing on her sleeping body. 'Cause real heros don't kill. See: Snake, Adam Jensen.
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Congrats in this remarkable feat I am so happy for you.

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@laserbolts said:

Congrats in this remarkable feat I am so happy for you.

Yeah, i'm thinking of asking the president to make a statue for me or something. I deserve it, don't you think?

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Wow.

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I put hours into it yesterday with no real luck....

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Lucky.

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Thats pretty impressive. I've spent 4 hours on this game so far, and no luck. Only can get up to the cave part2 and thats it lol. I must really suck :)

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Congrats! I still haven't been able to beat her.:(

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Good for you. I've beaten her 7 times now and Satan twice.

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I beat her first time too. It really helped though that I had a bunch of really awesome power ups from making deals with the devil so I could shoot charged up beams of blood out of my mouth for an absurd amount of damage. Course, I can't say that I didn't die, but since I bought 9 lives from the devil, it didn't matter that I died (though, me dying was then also entirely my fault, since deals with the devil cost you your hearts permanently and I didn't understand that until the second time through the game, buuuuut) congrats on not dying at all!

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@FateOfNever said:

I beat her first time too. It really helped though that I had a bunch of really awesome power ups from making deals with the devil so I could shoot charged up beams of blood out of my mouth for an absurd amount of damage. Course, I can't say that I didn't die, but since I bought 9 lives from the devil, it didn't matter that I died (though, me dying was then also entirely my fault, since deals with the devil cost you your hearts permanently and I didn't understand that until the second time through the game, buuuuut) congrats on not dying at all!

Oh, man, the cat is an A-M-A-Z-I-N-G powerup. Specially if you have Whore Of Babylon, because if you take half heart of damage you go full berserk on anything. The 1UP Mushroom is better, but oh well. 
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Good for you. I've beaten her 7 times now and Satan twice.

OH YEAH!? WELL, YOU... YOU... Ahn... *sigh* You're no fun. 
 @Video_Game_King said:

Lucky.

Tell that to the 8 hours i spent trying to beat her again. 
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Yeah, but now you need to kill her again, and then her heart, which sucks. And then I think Jesus/Satan/God are next. Good replay value though, Cain's lucky foot thing is super useful (all pills have good effects).

I don't have Cain yet, but that seems impressive. My favorite character now is Eve since her Dead Bird is useful as hell. And i don't like Magdalene. She sucks balls.
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I couldn't eve get past the 3rd of 4th floor. I haven't played that games in ages.

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@MikeGosot: My recommendation is, if you collect enough coins - say 30 - then hit a slot machine (you can also summon one with a tarot card). If you're lucky, the thing eventually explodes and you get a big stinking dollar (well, 99 cents to be exact). It'll give you the achievement and you don't need to then go on to complete the game to unlock him. Just quit out and get on that shit double time. Enjoy spamming the shit out of everything with the lazer eye thing combined with the charge power up.

I did that, and i got a heart. I think the game hates me or something. Also, the deadliest combination i've ever found is Lord Of The Pit, Spoon Bender, Ouija Board.
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@MikeGosot: The first 6 times I beat the game was with maggy, which really just speaks to how diverse you can be when it comes to playstyle. Based on your love of dead bird and the whore it seems you aren't overly defensive, personally those are 2 of my least favorite items. If you haven't figured it out yet the less damage you take on a floor the higher chance you have of summoning a satan room after completing a boss which can be used to get a lot of great items (Brimstone being my go-to item personally as if used correctly you can walk into a room and immediately kill everything in 1 shot).
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@MikeGosot: The first 6 times I beat the game was with maggy, which really just speaks to how diverse you can be when it comes to playstyle. Based on your love of dead bird and the whore it seems you aren't overly defensive, personally those are 2 of my least favorite items. If you haven't figured it out yet the less damage you take on a floor the higher chance you have of summoning a satan room after completing a boss which can be used to get a lot of great items (Brimstone being my go-to item personally as if used correctly you can walk into a room and immediately kill everything in 1 shot).
When i see i'm not doing well with Isaac, i go with Eve because of her items. But i understand your point. Also...  
 And... What does Brimstone do? I remember something about Brimstone meaning "Wrath Of God" so i assume it's a Space Item where God helps you for one room. 
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I thought you actually beat your mom for a second or two....

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I thought you actually beat your mom for a second or two....
I put it on Off-Topic by accident. So i don't doubt you thought that.
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@MikeGosot: Brimstone allows you to shoot a laser beam from one side of the screen to the other that ignores rocks, armor, etc and assuming you have a good amount of power will just 1 shot most enemies.  It's particularly useful on bosses with adds because you can kill all the adds in 1 attack while also doing plenty of damage to the boss. Technology is a similar item you can simply find in item rooms, but it doesn't do near as much damage nor does it reach from one side of the screen to the other.  
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@Zenaxzd said:
@MikeGosot: Brimstone allows you to shoot a laser beam from one side of the screen to the other that ignores rocks, armor, etc and assuming you have a good amount of power will just 1 shot most enemies.  It's particularly useful on bosses with adds because you can kill all the adds in 1 attack while also doing plenty of damage to the boss. Technology is a similar item you can simply find in item rooms, but it doesn't do near as much damage nor does it reach from one side of the screen to the other.  
Like Monstro 2's(?) laser beam? That's pretty awesome. Is it a space item?
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@MikeGosot: It's exactly like Monstro 2's laser beam, and nope it is not a space item it replaces your default tears completely, hence why I think it is amazingly overpowered (I believe it was even nerfed at one point, but it's still super powerful).
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I beat her my first try as well. I didn't announce it to the world though :( I also can't get back to her either. I tried loading it back up for the Steam achievement stuff, and the game just ran too poorly for it to be feasible to even try getting to Mom, much less trigger the achievement.

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9 hours played, and I finally got to mom only to have her beat me when she was almost beaten.

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@CL60 said:

9 hours played, and I finally got to mom only to have her beat me when she was almost beaten.

Same thing happened to me just now, man. Her hand, man. WTF...
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you keep saying "i beat my mom" , lol

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@TrashMustache said:

you keep saying "i beat my mom" , lol

Yeah, i usually put myself in the place of the main character when playing. That's why i say "My" partner when talking about Dom in Gears Of War, "My" sword when talking about RPG's, and i even said "my wife" when refering to Krato's past once. 
Yep. It's weird.
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@MikeGosot: Mom is the harder part of the game, imo. When you get to play with Cain, everything feels easier. Lucky Foot is great. Now all you have to do is S-rank the game :)

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@MikeGosot: Mom is the harder part of the game, imo. When you get to play with Cain, everything feels easier. Lucky Foot is great. Now all you have to do is S-rank the game :)

The "No Damage" achievements are going to be hard, since i've already stated that i'm not very defensive.  But, strangely enough, i feel like the achievement for dying 100 times is going to be the hardest.
Also, i don't doubt that Mom is the hardest part BECAUSE HER FUCKING HAND APPEARS FROM FUCKING NOWHERE. I'm trying to get Cain, but sometimes i don't resist and just throw all the money in the Slot Machine. 
  
Edit: And i just got "Basement Boy", wooray.
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@MikeGosot: Nice. Well, the good thing for those "No Damage" achievements is that you don't need any of the defensive stuff like increasing hearts and all that. You just go for offensive items. Then, well, then you just to have to mix luck with skill. That's why Cain is good, because he takes care of the luck side of things. All you need to do is play well.

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@Winternet said:

@MikeGosot: Nice. Well, the good thing for those "No Damage" achievements is that you don't need any of the defensive stuff like increasing hearts and all that. You just go for offensive items. Then, well, then you just to have to mix luck with skill. That's why Cain is good, because he takes care of the luck side of things. All you need to do is play well.

Doesn't Lucky Foot has the same effect as PHD? 
Also, the good thing about  not taking damage, is that your Pacts with The Devil are always worth it. And can you use Blood Donation Machines and still get the achievements?
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@MikeGosot said:

@Winternet said:

@MikeGosot: Nice. Well, the good thing for those "No Damage" achievements is that you don't need any of the defensive stuff like increasing hearts and all that. You just go for offensive items. Then, well, then you just to have to mix luck with skill. That's why Cain is good, because he takes care of the luck side of things. All you need to do is play well.

Doesn't Lucky Foot has the same effect as PHD? Also, the good thing about not taking damage, is that your Pacts with The Devil are always worth it. And can you use Blood Donation Machines and still get the achievements?

Lucky Foot is luck. PHD is better pills. Things like items dropped, stuff in the item rooms, Satan rooms, chances and results in the Arcade room have all a luck factor in them. Lucky Foot gives you better odds at these kind of stuff.

I don't know about the Blood Donation Machines. But, you really don't need them, so why bother?

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@Winternet: Then holy guacamole, Lucky Foot is a bless. I'm currently at The Womb, i used the shovel to bypass Mom and Womb I, i picked Guppy by accident and i'm kinda fucked. Just kinda.
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Man, I really need to play this game.

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@MikeGosot said:

@Winternet: Then holy guacamole, Lucky Foot is a bless. I'm currently at The Womb, i used the shovel to bypass Mom and Womb I, i picked Guppy by accident and i'm kinda fucked. Just kinda.

Hahaha. I like this play-by-play commentary. Funny thing about the shovel. You can use it to get the "no damage" achievement, but only if you use it on the 1st floor of each "area".

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Man, I really need to play this game.

You totally should.

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@MikeGosot said:

@Winternet: Then holy guacamole, Lucky Foot is a bless. I'm currently at The Womb, i used the shovel to bypass Mom and Womb I, i picked Guppy by accident and i'm kinda fucked. Just kinda.

Hahaha. I like this play-by-play commentary. Funny thing about the shovel. You can use it to get the "no damage" achievement, but only if you use it on the 1st floor of each "area".

Guppy screwed me, man. I'm totally desperate and used shovel in Womb II, and now i'm on an arena-like area with parasites with eyes.  And that thing about the shovel is really cool. 
 
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Man, I really need to play this game.
You totally should.²
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@MikeGosot: You can do it man!

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@Winternet: So, there's Satan in this floor. I paused the game and i'm going to eat and then play some more. I mean, it's Satan, man. Satan.
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@MikeGosot: Wait, you're in Sheol? Oh, maybe you mean a boss satan-like called The Fallen or something. Be careful with that one. He is tough, compared to other bosses.

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@MikeGosot: Wait, you're in Sheol? Oh, maybe you mean a boss satan-like called The Fallen or something. Be careful with that one. He is tough, compared to other bosses.

I think it's him, i never saw a message saying "ISAAC VS SATAN!" or anything like that. He Turns into two small forms of him, and looks like Krampus. There's a boss room next to him.
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@MikeGosot: That's because you faced him a normal room and not in the boss room. He is called The Fallen. Ok, you're still in Womb.

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      Not the Womb, man, not the Womb.
      Not the Womb, man, not the Womb.
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@MikeGosot: Oh you're in Sheol then. Nice. Good luck on the boss.

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@MikeGosot: Oh you're in Sheol then. Nice. Good luck on the boss.

I died on The Fallen. It's not very hard to kill it, it's just hard to kill it without taking any damage. Man, this game is awesome.
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@MikeGosot: Better luck next time. And you're right. This game is awesome.

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OMFG I WAS LIKE 1 SHOT AWAY FROM KILLING MOM

I used magadelene, i literally was fighting mom with half a heart for the whole encounter, i was so tense. I was one shot away but for some reason her shoe hit me (i was at the edge of the screen, thought i could avoid it, but clearly not)

Im so angry. I now MUST beat mom, i refuse to play anything else.

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OMFG I WAS LIKE 1 SHOT AWAY FROM KILLING MOM

I used magadelene, i literally was fighting mom with half a heart for the whole encounter, i was so tense. I was one shot away but for some reason her shoe hit me (i was at the edge of the screen, thought i could avoid it, but clearly not)

Im so angry. I now MUST beat mom, i refuse to play anything else.

Same thing happened to me at Mom's heart. But i started to laugh, actually. This game is full of amazing moments.
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@MikeGosot said:

@Sayishere said:

OMFG I WAS LIKE 1 SHOT AWAY FROM KILLING MOM

I used magadelene, i literally was fighting mom with half a heart for the whole encounter, i was so tense. I was one shot away but for some reason her shoe hit me (i was at the edge of the screen, thought i could avoid it, but clearly not)

Im so angry. I now MUST beat mom, i refuse to play anything else.

Same thing happened to me at Mom's heart. But i started to laugh, actually. This game is full of amazing moments.

YAY, literally my next game i abolished mother! with loads of hearts to spare :D was probably luck

This game is so great, i wanna play more:P

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@Sayishere said:

@MikeGosot said:

@Sayishere said:

OMFG I WAS LIKE 1 SHOT AWAY FROM KILLING MOM

I used magadelene, i literally was fighting mom with half a heart for the whole encounter, i was so tense. I was one shot away but for some reason her shoe hit me (i was at the edge of the screen, thought i could avoid it, but clearly not)

Im so angry. I now MUST beat mom, i refuse to play anything else.

Same thing happened to me at Mom's heart. But i started to laugh, actually. This game is full of amazing moments.

YAY, literally my next game i abolished mother! with loads of hearts to spare :D was probably luck

This game is so great, i wanna play more:P

Yep, it's a pretty awesome game. Who did you used to beat Mom?