As someone who has put 300+ hours into Payday 2 on PC, I can't really blame anyone for not getting into it. It's a bad heist/stealth game and a decent horde survival game. Payday's biggest downfall is that it can't decide if it wants to be Heat or Ocean's Eleven. As it a result it falls short of being a really good heist game or a really good 4 player horde game.The stealth mechanics are shallow and an unintuitive with you arbitrarily only able to kill 4 guards before triggering an alarm. And you can only move bodies if you have body bags. And it's fucked up that the ideal way to stealth most heists is to kill every civilian in the map. Stealth is boring, tedious, and only really satisfying the first time through. If your idea of fun is to sit around monitoring a camera while one or two guys hide in a corner for 5 minutes waiting for a guard to turn around, then you'll love Payday 2. Or maybe you would like to be the guy waiting in the corner wondering whether or not the guard will move or if his AI randomly decided that's where he will stay forever. They don't have a disguise system or anything. You can walk around incognito as a civilian in the beginning of a heist, but you can't take any action except pick up keycards and spot people and that's only if you have the perk that lets you do it. You can't distract guards with noises or even close doors. The game is only really fun when you're going loud. But even then there are only a few heists where going loud is really fun. They should have dropped any pretense of this being a heist game and just strengthened the horde gameplay with perks that let you weld doors shut or reinforce window barricades.No matter how many new characters, weapons, and heists they add. Those addons will never change the way the base game plays. Payday 2 just doesn't support proper heist gameplay. They should stop adding onto Payday 2 and just make a Payday 3 with a gameplay formula that can support complex heist setups.