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#1 Posted by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH 
 
sure. 
 
When I see it on shelves, I will buy a copy, throw it away, and refuse to read/watch anything regarding its public inception and life after print. 
 
No game, however perfect, could ever follow-up my entire experience of this games production. It was a wonderfully kooky and storied (is it over? lulz) thing which should find a life into a movie made by the guy who made King of Kong, or someone similar. 
 
I wouldn't watch that though. 
 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH..... 
 
sure. 
 
When I see it on shelves, I will buy a copy, throw it away, and refuse to read/watch anything regarding its public inception and life after print. 
 
No movie, however perfect, could ever follow-up my entire experience.... you get the point.

#2 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -

My best friend had recently purchased Red Dead Redemption. I asked him what he thought of it, and he shrugged his shoulders and said that it was Grand Theft Auto in the 'west'. Since he is one of my friends on Xbox Live, I noticed that I didn't see him online playing it, so I pressed him further - if he liked it or not - and he said that he got bored with it about a few hours in, mainly because it was GTA in the 'west' (which I thought was a selling point). This is the same guy who spent countless hours on the new Final Fantasy to only stop playing it after his girlfriend asked if he was 'having any fun'. He said that he was miserable because you could 'play' the game by simply pressing X over several hours, so he stopped. 
 
Since I was feeling a little thin on games lately, I had asked him if I could borrow Red Dead Redemption. After which he told me that he went back to Fallout 3 recently, so I was more than happy to take it off his hands. 
 
I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else on Giant Bomb, since he is not the only friend of mine that has expressed these sentiments. Your thoughts?

#3 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -

I was pleasantly surprised to see that this thread was going after all this time. My resolve is the same if not more so since my initial post, I feel for a great deal of people here that are going to to be mistreated by companies like Activision Blizzard in the future.
 
I am obviously representing a group of people who do not feel the need to reveal themselves in any form, except when at the register purchasing games by companies who publicly disrespect their consumers and talent.  
 
Believe me when I tell you that this is the best course of action anyone can take against a company who conducts themselves in this manner.
 
I thank you all for your time and consideration.

#4 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -

When I mention RealID to a few friends, they immediately showed their disgust and contempt. 
 
I am more than surprised that a few people here show the opposite reaction. Brad M. also seems like this issue was placated by a vocal minority..

#6 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -

I can't wait when they start offering "air in a bag". Sign me up. 
 
sorry, j/k. the deal doesn't seem bad at all, maybe not glamorous, but not bad either.

#7 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -
@Rockdalf said:

" @misplacedcircus: So you're saying, in your world, you see this:
 
Board: Gamers aren't buying are games because you mouthed off Kotick!  We knew this day would come, and you'll never work in the business again.  By the way, we're personally calling up those IW guys and giving them their hard earned bonuses, out of our OWN pockets, because your completely independent actions to fire them.
 
Kotick:
*sobs* I now see the err of my ways.
 
--When I see:
Kotick: It would appear that Black Ops wasn't the financial success we expected it to be, which to be honest is a damn shame.  All hands for firing half of Treyarch?
 
Board:
Aye. "

My version
 
Kotick & crew: Hahahaha, we did it, now all we have to do is see the money come in even after all the things we did to those developers. 
 
(sales slide and become stagnant, or perhaps, *gasp* they lose money) 
 
Kotick & crew: oh my, we upset quite a few of our customers that we did all the things to those developers. 
 
(Board decides in the best interest of the stockholders for a change of company direction (a publicly cleaner face), chances are a part of that change is Kotick 'resigning' because of the massively unprofessional comments made regarding the industry he works in, thus tarnishing the company name and image (people started calling them Smacktivision and Infinity Who?).)
 
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Anyone reading either one of our hypothetical scenarios would have to agree that (statistically) I hold the advantage. History doesn't lie, and there are more instances of my scenario playing out given the factors (high profile comments by Kotick, comments already made in the press regarding the situation, change in sales, etc). Your scenario would have won out if none of these factors were made so public, and to top it all off I don't even need that incentive. 
 
You see: I already know that there has, and will continue to be, an impact to Activison-Blizzard due to this situation, and due to the idea that one of my favorite game makers (Blizzard) is a part of the equation, I had to make a personal choice if the issue is as important enough to stop paying/playing their games. I also think that it is important for people to know that if you stop buying Activision games on principal, you also inadvertently affect Blizzard, but the point is that this company - as a whole - are setting and leading a precedent in the gaming industry, which I whole-heartedly disagree with. I also know that a great deal of other people agree with me, but one important difference is that: I have had enough. 
 
If they want a dollar from me, let alone several hundred a year, they will begin to treat their workers with a little respect and dignity by paying them when they expect it.  
 
Trust me, Activision-Blizzard (you see, that is their name) are good for it; and isn't that why this is such of an important issue (you know, the fact that they are still refusing full payment)?!?!
#8 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -
@Rockdalf said:

" @misplacedcircus said:

" @mazik765 said:

" @misplacedcircus said:

Not for long. Do you not agree that the same thing could potentially happen to the talent at Blizzard? The whole issue is about Activision cutting talent out of profit, which is also in their company's business legacy. It's only a matter of when.

Activision owned Infinity Ward and that's why they had the power to do that. They don't own Blizzard, they are business partners. That's why there s Activision-Blizzard and why there never was an Activision-Infinity Ward.  I hate Activision as much as the next guy but do you really think boycotting their games is going to hurt Bobby Kotick? No, it's going to hurt the people who makes the games because they will fire more studios long before they decide to take a hit to their paychecks. "
Bobby Kotick is the public face of the company. EA partially changed their company's way in which they did business for a change, they might go back on that, but they did change. Kotick is what I represent with what is wrong with Activision, and since a great deal of companies change 'public' figures in their company to satisfy a new corporate culture (Microsoft, EA, all of them do it) Kotick would surely be on the losing end of the deal. There are so many examples of this that I cannot even begin to go into (Gamespot too).  Your position is perhaps the best to take on this topic, but then again it is the most fundamentally wrong one as well.  I can tell you as a person who would love a job as a developer, I would absolutely refuse to accept a job in an environment in which the company sells me short. No matter what. I think that Activision-Blizzard's corporate culture of disrespecting talent is absolutely inexcusable and unacceptable. Wouldn't that be a better fundamentally sound stand to take, than "they will never change in the face of a consumer whom demands it of them, so nothing changes"?  I for one will no longer tolerate the gross and obvious mistreatment of talent in the industry. Especially Activision-Blizzard because of just how obviously (remember the articles I listed) wrong they are in this situation. Since the gaming industry has failed to protect their own talent, I am taking it upon myself to see that I am not a part of the problem (I am not giving them money), and actively encouraging others to do the same. If another company follows in Activision-Blizzard's example, I will treat them the same. "
Not buying games will hurt the developers, not Kotick.  You may feel like you're doing the noble thing, but if you even succeeded at something no one else has (rallying a community to not purchase a game), you're only hurting the studio's who made those games.  If you want to stick it to Kotick, buy hell out of what Respawn Entertainment puts out. "
I disagree, but then again you probably already new that. I have already had other people outside of this forum admit independently that this one of the very few things that I can do as a consumer, and I encourage you (and others) to reconsider your view of power as a figurative stock holder in Activision-Blizzard products.
#9 Edited by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -
@mazik765 said:

" @misplacedcircus said:

Not for long. Do you not agree that the same thing could potentially happen to the talent at Blizzard? The whole issue is about Activision cutting talent out of profit, which is also in their company's business legacy. It's only a matter of when.

Activision owned Infinity Ward and that's why they had the power to do that. They don't own Blizzard, they are business partners. That's why there s Activision-Blizzard and why there never was an Activision-Infinity Ward.  I hate Activision as much as the next guy but do you really think boycotting their games is going to hurt Bobby Kotick? No, it's going to hurt the people who makes the games because they will fire more studios long before they decide to take a hit to their paychecks. "
Bobby Kotick is the public face of the company. EA partially changed their company's way in which they did business for a change, they might go back on that, but they did change. Kotick is what I represent with what is wrong with Activision, and since a great deal of companies change 'public' figures in their company to satisfy a new corporate culture (Microsoft, EA, all of them do it) Kotick would surely be on the losing end of the deal. There are so many examples of this that I cannot even begin to go into (Gamespot too). 
 
Your position is perhaps the best to take on this topic, but then again it is the most fundamentally wrong one as well. 
 
I can tell you as a person who would love a job as a developer, I would absolutely refuse to accept a job in an environment in which the company sells me short. No matter what. I think that Activision-Blizzard's corporate culture of disrespecting talent is absolutely inexcusable and unacceptable. Wouldn't that be a better fundamentally sound stand to take, than "they will never change in the face of a consumer whom demands it of them, so nothing changes"? 
 
I for one will no longer tolerate the gross and obvious mistreatment of talent in the industry. Especially Activision-Blizzard because of just how obviously (remember the articles I listed) wrong they are in this situation. Since the gaming industry has failed to protect their own talent, I am taking it upon myself to see that I am not a part of the problem (I am not giving them money), and actively encouraging others to do the same. If another company follows in Activision-Blizzard's example, I will treat them the same.
#10 Posted by misplacedcircus (56 posts) -
@Stubert73 said:
" While I think it's admirable to take a stand, it's up to the current and former employees of activision (and their lawyers) to get what is coming to them. "
What if it I told you that Activision is getting exactly what they wanted by way of not honoring their contract and keeping a case in court until a year, which only the Infinity Ward bosses could afford to take to task? Doesn't that sound wrong to anyone? 
 
@NoXious said:
" No thanks. Unlike the other Activision properties - Blizzard makes good games and reaps the reward.The way it should be. "
Not for long. Do you not agree that the same thing could potentially happen to the talent at Blizzard? The whole issue is about Activision cutting talent out of profit, which is also in their company's business legacy. It's only a matter of when.
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