Mr_Scumbag

I always found the defense that "It's in a bikini cause that's the setting of the game, DUH!" pretty lacking. Even if that were so, if they weren't trying to appeal to their "target demographic" sexually, then surely there are MUCH better options for a statue. Like: Remember all the special zombies? the Thug? Floater? Butcher? They would all be both more appropriate for a statue and much less offensive, and there's NO POSSIBLE WAY that the marketers didn't first think of those possibilities before settling on a decapitated set of breasts. As such, the bikini/setting defense comes of as extremely dishonest to me. It's grabbing at straws, and I think most of the people making the argument know that.

@Crunch_Buttsteak: Only if you take that comment to exist in a vacuum, ignoring society, culture, and history. To argue without that context is intellectually dishonest, or ignorant.

@fustacluck said:

@Mr_Scumbag said:

@Strife777 said:

I can't wait for this whole sexual gender/sexism/misogyny/whatever the fuck you want to call it thing to go away.

I seriously can't.

Good lord....

Step 1: Place fingers in ears.

Step 2: "LALALALALALALA"

That's how most people ignore real problems that won't go away, anyway. YMMV

Yeah, cause this is a "real" problem.

You got it in one! It's a real problem and it's so insidious and ingrained in our culture that there are people who completely and earnestly deny its existence.

@Strife777 said:

I can't wait for this whole sexual gender/sexism/misogyny/whatever the fuck you want to call it thing to go away.

I seriously can't.

Good lord....

Step 1: Place fingers in ears.

Step 2: "LALALALALALALA"

That's how most people ignore real problems that won't go away, anyway. YMMV

@Funzzo said:

Also if you were playing a game where the main character is a women would you rather play as ugo fatty no tits or a hot bombshell?

In case you're wondering later on, this is precisely the point where people decided you have nothing of importance to add to this conversation. I'd like to thank you for re-enforcing the fact that these news stories are entirely relevant and important. Now kindly climb back under whatever rock you crawled out from.

@Gamer_152: ...and that's why I think GB comments need upvote options. Very well put. The people who deny those obvious points tell us exactly why they should keep being brought up and why articles like this one should kept prominent. Deniers will continue to deny, but change will come about eventually. It always has and always will.

@AutoBarn said:

Shit Patrick, a spoiler alert on the Far Cry 3 quote would have been good. Thanks for ruining the ending for me.

I've finished the game, but yeah, not spoilering that is pretty uncool.

@Wakka: You say you know why people are offended, but your post implies that you think people are offended because they can't take a joke or are taking the "joke app" too seriously. That isn't why a good number of us are offended at all. Why is it that you think we are offended? Why are we hypersensitive? Because we are offended by something that you aren't? That seems like a very narrow-minded way of looking at the world, not to mention kind of arrogant. It implies that you think that your threshhold of offense is the correct one and anyone on either side of your demarcation is wrong. Maybe rather than all of us being babies who are easily offended, it could be you who is not fully considering the aspects of these issues and dismissing them out of hand because they are either too inconvenient or too difficult for you to honestly address. Either way when there are this many people getting this up in arms about so many things as often as they are lately and you handwave them away you end up looking both ignorant and arrogant. Society and culture change over time and this issues being brought up so much is a sign of that change. If you want to dig your heels in and stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that change it's your business but like it has been said so many times before, if you don't think there's reason to be offended, move on to the next story rather than announcing how thick your skin is to the the rest of us. It adds nothing to the discussion and no-one is impressed by how unfazed you are by real cultural issues. It's not a badge of honour, it's raising the flag of ignorance.

@Laivasse: I pretty much agree with you. The part about principled or responsible gamers/consumers is particularly depressing and would be funny if it wasn't such a problem. Even after all the leaks when the game shipped early, people went on and on about it looking like shit but that they would still buy it anyway because they might enjoy some of it. It's that kind of stuff that leads to more bad advertising or bad products. Marketers and producers respond almost exclusively to the bottom line. How much money they pull in. If people don't have the self control to vote with their dollar, they just re-enforce bad practice. It's not always easy, but it's the best way to make change. If you don't approve of something withdraw your dollar completely.

@Wakka: You don't understand why people are offended.