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While the changes put them more in line with the competition, I'm still siding with the PS4. Even if they were the same machine with the same games, Sony's attitude and the way they presented themselves during E3 and the reveal got me on their side. Seeing the likes of Mark Cerny, Johnathon Blow, Greg Kasavin, Adam Boyes and a wealth of other recognisable faces who seemed passionate about what they were doing spoke to me as a long time gamer. When MS did it, I just saw a bunch of business people. Mine Craft is no longer an indie darling when it's sold over 20 million at this point and while it's nice of you to show Capy's new game and you wear a t-shirt, it speaks louder volumes if you actually got them up on stage with a few others like Sony did.

It still doesn't change the fact that the One is £80 more expensive than the PS4, doesn't support F2P in the same capacity, it's exclusive games don't interest me in the same way Sony's do especially in the case of Naughty Dog and their stance on indie games got worse and worse as time went on with the 360 and seems no different on the One.

At the end of the day though, it will actually come down to using these consoles. The PS3 won me over in the end due to PS+ and playing games such as Uncharted and inFamous whereas the more and more MS updates the 360, the more it pissed me off but the PS3 has massive quirks that are really hard to ignore such as no background downloading, poor controller, deleting shit is weirdly confusing and inconvenient, downloads take forever and their UI is inconsistent as fuck.

As much as this sucks for #firstworldproblems, this is beneficial for consumer rights and the gaming world. MS were being downright dicks to a large majority of the world by not offering in those countries and then region locking it so importing is out of the question. This also applies to people who's internet isn't as great as others or people who have internet with download caps.

I think people have been over looking the 'family' sharing plan. Sure you can share it with my friends but if you want to go over and play a game without the disc, you're going to be sitting there for hours downloading 40+ gigs of data. While games will be able to download parts, I don't see this being the case for open world games where you'd need all of the data.

I don't want to hate against the new Xbox but MS's past don't put much faith in me that they'll actually fulfill what they want you to believe. For example:

Vista: Was meant to be a revolutionary new version of Windows that was buggy and didn't work and forced people back to XP

Xbox 360: The HD console that didn't have a HDMI port and suffered from RRoD

Zune: MP3 player that was meant to take on the iPod but MS did nothing to support it and eventually killed it (despite it actually being a very good product)

Kinect: Originally shown scanning skateboards and the like just turned into a glorified dance controller

Bing: Not very good search engine with most features missing for anyone outside the US

Windows 8: A beta product with playing catch up with Apple

Windows Phone: Their original marketing was actually showcasing using the phone less and continues to struggle finding itself within the smartphone market

This is also how Microsoft advertised the cloud back in Windows 7:

Please note that non of what happens in the above video has anything to do with the "cloud". MS spout it as a marketing buzzword to make it sound much more interesting and cool than it really is.

I started out this console generation buying used games with the 360 and I did the same when I bought my PS3 Slim in 2009 but since I've just sought out good deals using Google and CheapAssGamer. I did at one point trade in over 20 360 games at once though because I wasn't playing them and they were taking up space nor did I care much for them. When I buy stuff for my computer I usually buy it on sale through Steam or GreenManGaming or physically through Amazon (though that's pretty rarely). That said, I don't condemn people for wanting to trade in or sell their games. They paid their money for it so they should be able to do what they want with it afterwards. You can do that through anything else. eBay wouldn't be a thing otherwise.

The only reason digital took off so well on PCs is because there is a lot of competition out there for it to thrive and because PC gaming has always been dicked on. If you'd been into a gaming retail store in the past decade you would've seen PCs will have always had the smallest space, even when games such as The Sims or WoW were thriving. Gaming retail stores also had a pretty strict rules for PC gaming too. Once you bought the game and used the code, it couldn't be returned unless you could prove something was wrong e.g. the wrong code was printed or your PC meets the requirements but doesn't work.

Thinking it'll be dead in 2 years is just silly, especially for a company as big as Microsoft. Just look at Windows Phone. It's been on the market for over 2 years and has seen very little traction yet they continue with it because it's an important market worth a lot of money. The same with gaming. I don't even think the majority of people will even care outside of Sony fans or people that care about consumer rights about any of the DRM stuff. Just look at the popularity of iTunes. They used to sell songs that had DRM and could only be used on Apple products but no one cared. Xbox is also a massive brand now. It has a following that people just aren't suddenly going to give up. There are people out there that actively hate Microsoft products such as Windows but love the Xbox. I even met someone recently who wouldn't even touch a PS3 controller his love for Xbox and Halo was so deep(I'm legit serious on that one).

I may take the resources back to be honest. There are obviously going to be large clans than others so it definitely seems in the interest of balancing the game that they change the costs for smaller clans as larger clans will just have a castle while smaller clans will just have a shed at the current costs especially when the new items they added with 8 are rare.

So far everyone who has posted here has an invite but 5 people are still pending until they accept.

Btw, if you want an invite to the clan, pm me if you don't get one from posting in this thread as I don't check it everyday.

I had the opportunity to play a bit of the game on Monday at ETOO in London but I don't know what the settings were. It seemed pretty hard though. Enemies will flank you and take you out if you're not on your shit. I was watching a guy play and while he was aiming at someone, an enemy came flying in from a blind spot to his left and knocked him on the ground. Although I had a pretty funny/dumb moment when I grabbed a guy and held out my pistol but didn't realise I had no bullets at that point the guy i'm holding knew realised and then proceeding to break out and beat me up.

It seems people are making their way there

I was never really into Live but cancelled last year. I was taking advantage of their sales they were having for £1 a month but some weird shit happened and my security locked me out on my comp(says I'm not using the correct PC when I haven't changed comp?) so I had to call them to cancel.

I do have PS+ however. I find it a more worthwhile service and I can play what I want without feeling like I'm wasting money whereas with Live I felt like I needed to be online more regularly to justify having it.

@zombie2011: The game has changed a lot since that quick look. It didn't even have any of the wall running in it at that point. I can only assume by the time the PS4 is released, it'll be a much more complete game as it's still a beta.