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#1 Posted by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

@topcat88 said:

This seems fairly cool if true. The more companies that do this, the more chance it has of becoming the norm. More flexibility of digital games ownership can only be a good thing.

One question: Why is it a bad thing when Microsoft does it and a great thing when Valve does it? (I'm not getting paid to write this :P) I guess that's what good reputation buys you and MS are going to have to work really hard to win people back over. As Ryan has said multiple times on E3 podcasts, Valve had to do the hard work when it launched Steam in the first place.

Microsoft has piss poor PR and do come off as elitist aholes., Valve are incredibly smart , pretty simple :P.

and also there are some differences i believe, "

  • "SteamUI_JoinDialog_SharedLicenseLocked_OwnerText" "Just so you know, your games are currently in use by %borrower%. Playing now will send %borrower% a notice that it's time to quit."

im assuming here that this means more than one user would be able to borrow a game from your shared library?

#2 Posted by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

oh damm, thanks for the heads up, will be avoiding this update till further notice, wanna make this ps3 last till ps4.

definitely not the type of thing you'd want to hear if you were sony.

#3 Posted by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

@mrfluke said:

hey you know, if the policies are no trouble to you and you see something that you're digging on the xbone, then more power to ya, no snark, no bull.

im going the ps4 route, yes yes, ultimately the policies wont fully be bothering most folks...

(i do sincerely sympathize with the cases that the xbox one completely says fuck you to though),

.....but i just simply like having the assurance that my games can work offline and i just like physical copies of games.

Respawn guys have been coy on twitter saying that the titanfall IP wont remain full xbox exclusive, so im down to wait for the multiplatform release of titanfall 2 when there is a single player campaign.

, normally i would just say fuck everything and get the xbox one for the new halo, but i thought halo 4 was very disappointing so i really lost the care i had for that series, so i kinda dont care about halo 5. and with cliff gone from epic, same goes for gears as i didnt really care for gears judgement also. and then fable 3 sucked, so their big first party trio doesn't appeal to me anymore.

so im gonna wait and see what the next wave of exclusives are before i even think about an xbox one again.

Ya I am sure in a year or year in a half Titan Fall 2 will come out. And Halo 5 or what ever has no release date yet I do not think.

nah halo 5 is confirmed for next year, https://twitter.com/DavidEllis/status/344151003467218944

#4 Edited by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

hey you know, if the policies are no trouble to you and you see something that you're digging on the xbone, then more power to ya, no snark, no bull.

im going the ps4 route, yes yes, ultimately the policies wont fully be bothering most folks...

(i do sincerely sympathize with the cases that the xbox one completely says fuck you to though),

.....but i just simply like having the assurance that my games can work offline and i just like physical copies of games.

Respawn guys have been coy on twitter saying that the titanfall IP wont remain full xbox exclusive, so im down to wait for the multiplatform release of titanfall 2 when there is a single player campaign.

, normally i would just say fuck everything and get the xbox one for the new halo, but i thought halo 4 was very disappointing so i really lost the care i had for that series, so i kinda dont care about halo 5. and with cliff gone from epic, same goes for gears as i didnt really care for gears judgement also. and then fable 3 sucked, so their big first party trio doesn't appeal to me anymore.

so im gonna wait and see what the next wave of exclusives are before i even think about an xbox one again.

#6 Posted by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

@oginor:

you got to understand, there is that userbase that just likes having their options, of rentals and used games and physical games vs the digital way. and everyday there is new gens growing up with consoles (less than before sure, i still dont discount them and wont label it as a niche market though)

(sony would not have gotten that roar of applause over those policies if it didn't mean something to a group of people),

Used games and rentals are a significant way users experience games, gamefly and gamestop wouldn't be multimillion companies if this wasn't the case.

i dont deny that we'll imo sadly end up full digital in the future, but the physical media is very very engrained into society and into regular physical stores that i don't see it going FULLY away for another 10 years minimum. it is very narrow minded to think the digital way is acceptable RIGHT NOW for people.

just cause the pc crowd didn't have the ability of used games and rentals doesn't mean the console crowd will follow suit, that crowd's been raised much differently. and everyday more are being raised that way.

you seem like a pro digital guy, at the end of the day, i just don't see how does the other group of users that prefers the traditional way bother YOU and your purchasing habits though, insulting other crowds because they dont follow suit just in turn pisses people off more and just makes you seem more like an asshole than you actually are, (it costed that dude adam oarth his job),

look at the best sellers preorder list on online websites,

ps4 is in 1st yes, but xbox one is right up there in the top 5, there will still be an audience that machine will have.

also, all 3 major platforms (excluding wiiU) have the ability to have day 1 digital releases, and all 3 platforms will have their version of a cloud based service (remember sony does have gaikai), you're still getting cloud tech in your consoles regardless.

#7 Edited by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

original playstation is probably my favorite one of the bunch.

#8 Posted by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

@theht said:

It's a Social Media Manager warzone up in here.

#9 Posted by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

@golguin said:

@oginor said:

@golguin: 'Murica!'

The DRM is no different, and in many ways more lax, than most digital content DRMs. Can we all take off the tinfoil hats for 30 seconds?

And I do have gaming friends (and scuba friends, and artsy friends), like a lot of mature, older people, I realize that my friends don't all share the same interests, that that is a good thing, and that I can't imagine that someone doesn't have various social groups unless that person is very young or very sheltered. Or both, y'know, like the kind of person who lives near all their friends and family, who, coincidentally enough, are this monolithic group that all share the same interests. I think that pretty much defines young and sheltered.

How old are you? It sounds like you are describing me and everyone else who has issues with Microsoft's anti consumer policies as "young and sheltered" so I would like to know more about you.

I don't buy games on Steam so trying to make a comparison with other DRM models doesn't mean anything to me and the people who just play games on their consoles. I just put some batteries in my gameboy color and Pokemon Yellow still works.

best you drop it dude, that guy seems far up his own ass to realize there is another group of people in which digital games doesn't work for them, and just writes them off as a niche market and calls them entitled,

besides, he's waging war with that other dude atm

#10 Edited by mrfluke (5089 posts) -

@oginor said:

@mikewarrior: CD's were the norm in 2001 when the ipod was released too...now, not so much.

What 'long-run' are you talking about? The long-run is digital distribution...we all know that. Some people aren't okay with the jump right now, but why should that hamper those who are?

so,

is it hard for you 2 to realize that there are 2 groups, the ones who want to go digital and have experience with digital due to them using steam?.

and the other camp that just likes to have the options of being able to play games offline, being able to rent games, and to trade in games for currency to buy more games?

ultimately both systems didn't create the catch all device.

between the two of you all, one's being a douche and calling people entitled just for liking to have options and the other is trying to convert the digital guy who seems to already made up their mind.

ultimately the 2 groups seem split enough that both consoles will have a good sized userbase, one will be bigger over the other of course, but radically bigger? wayyy to early to call.