NIveous

@Murra said:

well yea he appreahanded the murderer.... or just some random stalker,which was pointed out already BEFORE rise got kidnapped...

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Nah, that was the culprit, all right.

No two ways about it.

For everyone else, I'm guessing Star Arcana next episode.

@SilvarusLupus said:

@NIveous said:

Also, is anyone else bothered that they can never draw his face right?

You're just gonna be on that forever aren't you, silly?

It is a sore point.

@Murra: What? There's lots of opportunity to get to know Adachi better. Isn't it the next episode that he brings Dojima back drunk? And he's already apprehended the murderer, silly. How could you think he's a poor cop? Edit: Haha, he's been in almost half of these episodes, actually.

However, I agree that they haven't fully developed his ineptitude, as much as we seem to gather of his character by this point in the game. We'll see how it goes, I guess. There's time to fix that.

Also, is anyone else bothered that they can never draw his face right?

Pssh, it would have been easy to shift the cliffhanger one episode.

@FluxWaveZ said:

All I know is that I didn't want both Shadow battles concluding in a single episode, because it made it feel rushed and not special.

Fair enough. I admit, I would have loved two episodes, I only don’t mind it being truncated. And to be completely selfish… I really wish this was coming out in two seasons. Everything could have been explored in its whole. Arguably nothing of substance happens in the drama CDs, but they are wonderful. Imagine that level of interaction in an anime. There are opportunities here, but they are constrained by the episode limit and their choice to go through all of the social links.

Yu still doesn’t have the Star Arcana, and here’s the thing—if they don’t make use of it, I will be upset. Mitsuo had better have some depth to him as well.

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Nah, Teddie’s been whining about himself just like in the game, and like the game, he’s comical and no one takes him seriously. I distinctly recall watching the start of Kanji’s episode and thinking, ‘this is obviously set up for later’. In Yukiko’s too, he complains at the end, and Yosuke never lets him forget that he’s empty. There’s been stuff all over the place.

And again, Rise had a whole episode before this, and her self-reflection took place by the river. Her flashback got its own opening. I can appreciate wanting to see that moved to the dungeon, but it may be unfair to say it wasn’t there, or maybe I misunderstood.

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@FluxWaveZ said:

It's not a question of being spoiled; it's a question of not having the anime be a literal translation from what we've already seen in the game—since this is obviously fan service—and have it flesh out the characters in a way that we didn't see in Persona 4.

Yes, and that was the joy of Yukiko’s episode, wasn’t it? I was so hoping we would get something similar with Kanji, anything really. To be honest, I was disappointed by that, despite scenes with Bunny Boy.

(As a side note, and as that rare Naoki fan, I was also disappointed with how the anime treated his S-Link, as if just crossing another Arcana off the list. However, Naoki is absolutely unimportant except for making saps like me feel really awful about the murders and liking the murderer. You didn’t get that in the anime, which is actually a regress from the game—but like I said, Naoki is a nobody. I don’t really have a right to whine over him. I will complain about not capturing the essence of his link, since they bothered at all.)

@FluxWaveZ said:

I don't know how I would have scripted an episode dedicated to Teddie's psyche; I'm not a writer.

Here goes?

Spoilers for space. Tldr; you could probably make it work after all.

NOW, we can’t actually have a Shadow Teddie episode because Yu needs that Star Arcana, and that’ll take it’s own episode. Star Arcana can’t happen in the dungeon itself, since Teddie’s surprise is a better moment for it, and without the Link there, that event in the anime is diminished in its potential. If Star Arcana is not happening in the dungeon, it doesn’t make sense to unload Teddie’s issues there, since that’d make the S-Link episode really unnecessary. Probably their rationalization, anyway.

@FlarePhoenix: I agree, can't you just picture the epic? Though I think they'd run into problems in an anime that the game glosses over--like hiding weapons on themselves, storing them, so-I-heard-you've-been-selling-sharp-things-to-minors. At least they react to their Persona's injuries... In any case, I'm pleased with the way it is now. Yu can do fusions; that's more that I anticipated.

I got through watching all the Shadow battles last night and then concluded that we've been spoiled with Yukiko's and Kanji's dungeons. Rise's Shadow gets about as much screen time as Chie's, and Teddie's problems have been peeled back gradually. So, I dunno. How would you have scripted a whole episode for Shadow Teddie?

@gakon: Budget :) We don't get to see it because the animators can't be bothered to draw it. Which is to say, they've got lives and deadlines and pocketbooks.

Mmh. When you actually go to write out P4, what happens is that everything past the second note takes up a lot more space than you'd think. P4 is so story laden that you really can't take your time with only 25 episodes. Act 3, at the barest, is seven episodes long. Between there and episode 10 there's some wiggle room, but it's still tight. Especially without knowing what they'll do with S-Links.

I genuinely didn't have any issues with the pacing of this one. Rise's backstory was laid out in the whole of ep 9, so I feel like another Rise-centric episode would have actually been overkill. I'm a fan of what they accomplished in Yukiko's dungeon too, but Rise is Lovers, and wrapping her in metaphor doesn't mesh so well as it does with Yukiko's personality. Narukami doesn't have the Star yet either, so Teddie will be revisited. I'm curious, and in no way to be caustic, how you'd direct an entire episode about Shadow Teddie without it losing its momentum?

The animation itself was a treat after ep 9. I guess that's another thing-- if Rise wasn't set up well enough, that's a fault on ep 9, not ep 10. Shadow Teddie was excellent. As for the IT fighting poorly, Margaret predicted it: Hanged Man and Emperor. A dangerous situation in which you need to delegate power to another to survive. That's represented three times--with Kanji, Teddie, and with Rise at the end. (She didn't actually speak about fusion.) I swear, it's like they plan these things.