NMC2008's forum posts

#1 Posted by NMC2008 (1231 posts) -

Mayo only goes on sammiches, and by mayo I mean Miracle Whip. I'm an old man so when I use ketchup my Tums are right there to save me from bullshit.

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@cloudymusic said:

@nmc2008 said:

I see. You know, I was always curious if there are any female creepers, I only see that word being thrown at dudes 100% of the time. Anyway, I don't like saying this but there are female equivalents of all those things you listed, the difference is that nobody cares.

This is a pretty obvious false equivalence. You cannot possibly be attempting to say that the incidence of women acting making sexist jokes, acting like creepers, and generally making men feel unwelcome at real-life gaming events is anywhere near as prolific as men doing that to women. I'm a fighting game fan, and pretty much every single large fighting game tournament I go to is filled with this stuff. Remember the stuff Jared Rea brought up on the Bombcast about the whole "kill the bitch" thing, "send her back to the kitchen," at Evo 2011 due to Dark Phoenix being an overpowered (and hated) character? I was there for that, and it was fucked up. Even if it's done in jest, that sort of stuff creates a ridiculously hostile environment for women who are there.

I was talking about in general, I don't know what happens at FGC events. I am gonna take my leave now(posting wise) though, I don't like these discussions too much, I don't agree with people having to alter their vocal behavior when not directing it at anyone, if you're telling a lady to get in the kitchen then fine, do something about it, but if someone saying "kill that bitch" or "get back in the kitchen" towards a fictional character then I think that is fair game. Police bad behavior aimed at another human but don't try to police public noise pollution.

Let me ask you this question, do you believe using the world "bitch" in front of a woman is wrong? Do you think using the word bitch in front of a woman directed at another woman is wrong? OR!! Do you think calling saying the word is wrong in general? I am talking in general, not at FGCs, I am sure FGCs are considered private affairs and so they can set rules and regulations as they see fit. What I am trying to gather here is where then line is exactly when it comes to women because it seems like it moves a lot depending on who you talk to while the line for dudes seems to be pretty much in the same spot at all times. What do I know? I am just an observer 99% of the time.

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#4 Posted by NMC2008 (1231 posts) -

@nmc2008 said:

@example1013 said:

@nmc2008: the reason it's a big deal is men de facto have their own space already because of how hostile certain environments can be to women. now that's not to say there aren't environments that are hostile to men as well, and that's not cool, but let's face it, there are a LOT more of those for women than men.

Such as? I am curious, I mean I feel like things can become out of control pretty much anywhere for anyone and anytime.

Fucking creepers who won't stop staring at them like starved wolves in front of a fresh kill. Rape comments, awkward come-ons, kitchen jokes, you name it. Social retards who don't know the first thing about healthy interactions with women. It won't get better until they learn that their behavior is unacceptable, and that won't happen until more women enter the scene.

I see. You know, I was always curious if there are any female creepers, I only see that word being thrown at dudes 100% of the time. Anyway, I don't like saying this but there are female equivalents of all those things you listed, the difference is that nobody cares. *shrug* At least you(I feel like you're a lady for some reason though I am not sure, if I am wrong then I am sorry) have people who try to fight against it, which is good but if some dude came and said "Man these damn girls keep making rape comments at me" do you know what would happen next? I am sure you do. Again I don't like doing this but I feel like I have to. Shit is rough all over.

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@jadegl said:

@nmc2008: The problem that I had with the set-up when I read the article was that it was never fair to begin with. There was no female only Hearthstone tournament. Women only had tournaments for Tekken Tag and StarCraft II. Men had tournaments for other games, including Hearthstone. That made some Hearthstone players upset, probably female ones that didn't have a way to participate. My main problem with the entire premise was that if they have tournaments, make them equal. That means mix them (easiest, fairest option) or have one for each game for each gender, cost be damned at that point. It's really that simple.

Oh... I thought the first grouping had both groups playing all games... well that's dumb, why only two games?

#6 Posted by NMC2008 (1231 posts) -

@wrecks said:

Grilled. If no grill, boiled. If no stove, nuked. If no microwave, raw dog.

Now that's something I would never do for some reason, I can't.

#7 Posted by NMC2008 (1231 posts) -

@nmc2008: the reason it's a big deal is men de facto have their own space already because of how hostile certain environments can be to women. now that's not to say there aren't environments that are hostile to men as well, and that's not cool, but let's face it, there are a LOT more of those for women than men.

Such as? I am curious, I mean I feel like things can become out of control pretty much anywhere for anyone and anytime.

#8 Posted by NMC2008 (1231 posts) -

Digital Future HOOOOOOOO!!!!! -_- So wait, it's not on your console? They can't remove it from your console can they? Can they? Let me check mine.....mine is still here and works fine.

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Hot Dogs & Hot Links - Boiled or grilled

Common Breakfast Meats - Fried or Broiled

Every other sausage type - grilled.

#10 Posted by NMC2008 (1231 posts) -

@jadegl said:

@nmc2008: I assume you're trying to say that the "special treatment" in this situation is a net benefit or gain for women. I would argue it's actually quite patronizing. Either have a separate men's tournament and a separate women's tournament for all the games they feature or do all mixed tournaments.

This was not what they were originally doing, so it was inherently unfair. They were saying men will have tournaments for a, b, c and d games while women get tournament for a and z. So men not only had more games to play than the women's offerings, but they also had different games. As someone said earlier, what makes Tekken Tag a women's game and not a men's game? What makes Street Fighter IV the opposite? It made no sense to me as an outsider looking in. Games are games and the people who play them shouldn't be portioned out as though one side is more delicate than the other or one side is "better" than the other.

As a woman, If I had a choice between a mixed tournament and a women's only tournament, I would pick the mixed tournament every single day of the week. The thought at the back of my mind would be that I would never get any real recognition from people if I won the women's tournament when there is a mixed tournament going on at the same time. In the back of some minds, there would be talk that you were good enough to do well with the other women, but if you joined the other tournament you'd get smoked because guys are just better. Duh. This is similar to me when I see people argue the numbers of actual women who play games. Whenever the numbers come up that say close to half play games, a deluge of people chime in and say that they aren't playing "real" games, they're playing Facebook games and Candy Crush, so they aren't really gamers. I would feel worse for not trying my absolute best, which would be the mixed tournament that has, what I would assume, the best players of both genders.

Now the only good argument, I suppose, for this is that some women may be intimidated by joining the men. Well, intimidation is a natural part of competition. Maybe men are also intimidated by women, why wouldn't they get the benefit of not facing them? I think segregating only leads to bad things and reinforces stereotypes. I understand it in some instances, classes at a gym for instance where women would otherwise not exercise at all and decide to pay for the added privacy, but I don't approve of it in most other cases, especially the situation that precipitated this post.

All I am saying is that if they had a female group and a male group, people complained, now they have a female group and an everybody group, but why can't it be either an everybody group or a female/male/mixed, but that's too damn much, so if they decided to cave then they should have just had an everybody group. Now special treatment was perhaps the wrong word(my mistake)to use, but I think it's kinda unfair to keep the female only and toss the male only, that's all i'm saying. I think my whole deal is that society(from my POV)seems to be ok with women having their own space for them but when dudes want their own space they have issues with it and call it sexist and unfair and to me that is sexist and unfair. *shrugs* That's just how I see it though, I am about fairness for both sides at all times and this seems a bit unfair and it seems like most are fine with things being unfair as long as it's in womens' favor. *shrugs* I think they should have gave the male and female groups a shot, I think it would have game women a time to shine.

I mean look at EVO, where the ladies at? Cheering from the back? Is that how it's gonna be all the time? I dunno but I can almost guarantee that EVO 2014 will have probably 1 lady in the top tier spot, probably.... probably. I really don't care too much about this stuff to be honest but I thought it was interesting that they were doing separate groups but alas they were pressured into changing it, that seems to be how things go these days, if we don't like what someone does we will press their faces to the pavement and demand change, sucks. FYI, I am not talking about big shit, I am talking about petty bullshit, like video games, real world bullshit that needs change is fine but carrying that mentality into entertainment which are expressions of art is really grinding my gears. Hey if the participants prefer it this way great, it should be all about them anyway.

I think I am full of pent up aggression from years of stupid petty bullshit from the game community and press. *shrugs* -_- I do apologize to anyone whom may have taken offense of my comment but things are getting rough and I don't know how to ignore it. -_-