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#1 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

I think this has been asked by now, but I'm wondering now, how many of you have gone through Hardcore mode? More specifically, though still not exclusively, how many of you have gone through it on PS3? What did you think?

#2 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

@FengShuiGod said:

@NTM said:

@FengShuiGod said:

People don't remember Half Life very well. Remember all the dialog from the first Half Life prior to the Resonance Cascade? The scientists comically complain that nothing is running smoothly and their calculations are off but, "It probably won't be a problem....probably." Then there are the myriad ways scientists are killed off throughout the game, seemingly for laughs, as well as their panicked dialog. The scientists at Black Mesa were wildly incompetent, and Black Mesa's failed experiments are somewhat reminiscent of Aperture. If anything, Black Mesa is more comically tragic. Aperture's undoing was Glados. Black Mesa's was causing the Resonance Cascade which filled the planet with Xen life forms and attracted the Combine. Not to mention the ironic bravado displayed by the security guards as they take on hellish things with their puny pistols.

The humor is carried on in HL2 and it's Episodes by Kleiner and Lamar, Magnusson's berating, Odessa Cubbage, dialog from NPCs, the slightly off-kilter Father Gregori, some dialog from the Vortigaunts, ect.

There has always been plenty of wry, sardonic, black humor in the series. While it may not be as silly as Portal, Half Life's seriousness has always been tempered by humor throughout and the two franchises' tones are not as wildly different as many seem to think.

Yeah, that sums it up. Thanks for saying this, 'cause while it's in my mind, I didn't have a way of saying it. It is how I see it though. I'm assuming you read the other comments that said the tone is far from the same, so it wouldn't work?

Yeah. Even though I don't believe the tones of Portal and Half Life are wildly divergent, I don't think the games will or should be connected more than they are. I'd count on easter eggs in the Borealis, but I don't think Erik, Chet, and Marc are going to write in something like the inclusion of Chell into HL3. Like Ajamfalous said, that just doesn't seem like Valve's MO.

I don't want Chell to be in it. I've never thought about that, and when someone mentions it I think it's awkward. I think GLaDOS is a different story though.

#3 Edited by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

I liked Downfall. I've seen it two or three times actually, it's surprising considering no matter how big or small they do games to film it often always fails. Aftermath was really no exception, it wasn't good. I think Aftermath and Ignition are the two worst parts of the Dead Space universe even if some of the stuff are likable. If Aftermath had been consistent by only using the animations and not 3D crap, I would have probably liked it more.

#4 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

@FengShuiGod said:

People don't remember Half Life very well. Remember all the dialog from the first Half Life prior to the Resonance Cascade? The scientists comically complain that nothing is running smoothly and their calculations are off but, "It probably won't be a problem....probably." Then there are the myriad ways scientists are killed off throughout the game, seemingly for laughs, as well as their panicked dialog. The scientists at Black Mesa were wildly incompetent, and Black Mesa's failed experiments are somewhat reminiscent of Aperture. If anything, Black Mesa is more comically tragic. Aperture's undoing was Glados. Black Mesa's was causing the Resonance Cascade which filled the planet with Xen life forms and attracted the Combine. Not to mention the ironic bravado displayed by the security guards as they take on hellish things with their puny pistols.

The humor is carried on in HL2 and it's Episodes by Kleiner and Lamar, Magnusson's berating, Odessa Cubbage, dialog from NPCs, the slightly off-kilter Father Gregori, some dialog from the Vortigaunts, ect.

There has always been plenty of wry, sardonic, black humor in the series. While it may not be as silly as Portal, Half Life's seriousness has always been tempered by humor throughout and the two franchises' tones are not as wildly different as many seem to think.

Yeah, that sums it up. Thanks for saying this, 'cause while it's in my mind, I didn't have a way of saying it. It is how I see it though. I'm assuming you read the other comments that said the tone is far from the same, so it wouldn't work?

#5 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

@believer258: Half-Life does have some humor in it though, and at times it can too make you laugh, maybe not quite as much as Portal, but still. There are times in many games that are violent, that you'll have a silly character, or moment. It's fine that you think this, and I don't need to try and change your mind any further, 'cause I probably can't no matter what I bring up, but all I can say is that I guess I feel differently.

#6 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

You should have to pick up rations for health, and if you have too many rations in your inventory, you'll move slowly, so you have to find a hiding place to take a dump so you can move at normal speed again.

#7 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

@habster3: @believer258: @MikkaQ: I don't agree about the tone aspect. I think they can fit perfectly, without clashing. I mean, if you imagine GLaDOS massacring a bunch of Combine, and blood all around, then I can see why it'd be a little off, but that's not how I see things.

#8 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

I don't understand people saying that there's probably not going to be a third, or if there is, it's going to be disappointing. From Half-Life to HL2 it took longer, if you don't consider Half-Life 2's original release on PC in 2004, but also include the Episodes and what not.

#9 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

@Tim_the_Corsair: Yeah, maybe. That'd still be pretty cool though.

#10 Posted by NTM (6478 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago

@Soapy86: Yeah I know, that's why I said "more so than they have already." And hopefully.