paradox121

Would anyone be able to PM me suggestions for acceptable paid email services? I don't have a work email and the one non-free email I originally used for GAF is long gone so I'm kinda out of options. Any advice would be awesome.

@hirst: I think it's a fair enough shorthand, at least in the early days, to keep the 'riffraff' out, but I'd much rather just make a donation or something to keep the site up and running.

Guess I've got to sign up for an email service now then. I wish there was a list of approved stuff. I'd hate to start paying money for something that just gets rejected.

Still slightly amazed that the Wii U came out of nowhere to have the most interesting line up this Christmas....they got me you guys :/

Anyway, my ID is halcy0n

What more can be said that hasn't been already?

Truly one of the funniest people I've ever had the pleasure of listening to on a week in week out basis.

He had the unique skill of being sarcastic and acerbic and yet you could still tell he had a kind heart and looked after those around him.

Huge, unimaginable loss. R.I.P. Sir

You've just made me feel very old. Thanks.

But then why would the Songbird even take Our Elizabeth in the first place? Surely a version of her is locked up away somewhere and no one is chasing after her. And also how would Our Elizabeth and Songbird go through to the end game dimension? I guess you could say Songbird is some kind of omnipotent dimension hopper too, but its just presented in the story as Elizabeth and Booker hop over to the Martyr dimension, find some weird stuff going on, and then end up just hunted by the same people all over again.

The implication being she was taken away to Comstock House. Thats the issue- if she's meant to have been taken to Comstock House, where is she by the end of the game? But yeah, I guess its not that big a thing to get hung up on, its just something that bugged me at the time.

@starvinggamer: Yeah its pretty handwave-able. It just seems like an odd oversight for a game that prides itself on everything being tied up nicely. Even if they'd just thrown in a voxophone from Alt-Booker saying how there were rumours Alt-Elizabeth had escaped/died whatever.

I think the whole tear thing in the game in general never really sits right with me. Like I said, Ive just come off the back of watching Primer which has a very strict logic and set of rules, but here tears kinda just appear and Booker and Elizabeth just randomly decide to jump through them on a whim. It feels like one of those cases where the idea of alternate realities/infinite possibilities came first and then the reasoning and details came later. But meh. Rant over.

Finally finished the game last night. Turns out its pretty good.

I love a good time travel/multi-dimensional story (coincidentally I just watched Primer too) mainly because they stick with you and get you to pick apart the narrative in a satisfying manner. Weirdly I was listening to the radio this morning, and an oddly precient song came on. It's by Biffy Clyro, I don't think they're that well known overseas but they're fairly big over here in Blighty. Anyway song and lyrics below.

I have hit one stumbling block when I look back over the narrative, and naturally it's one of those cases where I may have missed a voxophone/dialogue piece or it may have been answered previously in this thread but anyway:

From what I can tell, when you move through tears to different dimensions, you don't replace the alternate version of yourself, you coexist, which allows Booker and Comstock to be in the same universe. My problem lies with Booker and Elizabeth going through a tear and coming out in a dimension where the Vox are fighting back and overthrowing Comstock.

In this reality, Booker never reaches Elizabeth because she is taken away to Comstock house, and instead he dies a martyr. Fine, but what happens to the other Elizabeth? I assume this is the Elizabeth that goes on to become OldElizabeth at the end of the game, but where is she during the second half of the game? Surely she'd still be locked up in Comstock house, and if thats the case, why would Songbird/Comstock still be after your version of Elizabeth?

Massive condolences Patrick. I can't begin to imagine what you're going through, particularly before such another life changing event, but I hope you and your family are holding up as best you can. This thread is evidence enough for the support behind you.