Microsoft is killing my love for the 360...

Ok, I used to be a massive PC gamer, played CS 1.6, Starcraft back in the day, went on to WoW and TF2 etc. Before all of that i owned a PS1.

After my love for WoW was gone, i turned to the 360. And it replaced my PC... All my gaming consisted of the 360 whilst the PC was left collecting dust.

Recently i have been venturing into DLC due to finances being tight this time of year, I check GB and www.majornelson.com for updates on sales and other happenings with Xbox Live, and although its taken a long time for me to catch on, there is hardly anything available for people who do not live in the US. Its always US only this, US only that. If anyone wants to have a read of majornelson.com today, Larry has posted up the Black Friday deals, as GB has also. So far about 200 comments have been made about how Microsoft has never been good to their customer base other than inside the US (mostly).

I pay premium prices for my xbox (Elite is $549, Pro is $399), xbox live ($90ish a year), xbox games ($80-110 RRP).

Its a massive slap in the face by Microsoft to not offer the same services to anyone out of the US, not even Canada get the same service. Major Nelson as a community manager says that he tries to get the content out there, but Microsoft 'have tried and have too many issues rolling it out', presumably due to licensing agreements and such.

But why can't Xbox UK, Europe, AUS etc come up with deals which suit us. I'm not saying that the Black Friday deals should be in Australia (we don't celebrate it), but what about days such as Australia Day, Boxing Day, Good Friday etc... We don't see anything like that, only US people seem to be favored in terms of these offereings.
 
What about an Australian/UK/European equivalent to NetFlix, or an equivalent to the deals that seem to happen every week for US only customers.

We all pay for consoles and get substandard hardware (ie RROD), Most people pay for Xbox Live and get a substandard service (No Netflix, no specials etc).
 
PC gaming seems to be different, the whole 'region' debacle isn't as prominant, everything is more widely available. In regards to PS3, PSN is free to use, and it don't seem to have as harsh region issues either.

Next time my 360 RROD's, It's going to take something special for me to buy another one. Maybe i should go back to the PC or buy a PS3? I may get value for money. Yes the console price is higher, there are some 360 only titles which i would miss, but at least then I wont have to pay for a substandard online service.

Does anyone else have the same opinion?

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Posted by Psynapse

Ok, I used to be a massive PC gamer, played CS 1.6, Starcraft back in the day, went on to WoW and TF2 etc. Before all of that i owned a PS1.

After my love for WoW was gone, i turned to the 360. And it replaced my PC... All my gaming consisted of the 360 whilst the PC was left collecting dust.

Recently i have been venturing into DLC due to finances being tight this time of year, I check GB and www.majornelson.com for updates on sales and other happenings with Xbox Live, and although its taken a long time for me to catch on, there is hardly anything available for people who do not live in the US. Its always US only this, US only that. If anyone wants to have a read of majornelson.com today, Larry has posted up the Black Friday deals, as GB has also. So far about 200 comments have been made about how Microsoft has never been good to their customer base other than inside the US (mostly).

I pay premium prices for my xbox (Elite is $549, Pro is $399), xbox live ($90ish a year), xbox games ($80-110 RRP).

Its a massive slap in the face by Microsoft to not offer the same services to anyone out of the US, not even Canada get the same service. Major Nelson as a community manager says that he tries to get the content out there, but Microsoft 'have tried and have too many issues rolling it out', presumably due to licensing agreements and such.

But why can't Xbox UK, Europe, AUS etc come up with deals which suit us. I'm not saying that the Black Friday deals should be in Australia (we don't celebrate it), but what about days such as Australia Day, Boxing Day, Good Friday etc... We don't see anything like that, only US people seem to be favored in terms of these offereings.
 
What about an Australian/UK/European equivalent to NetFlix, or an equivalent to the deals that seem to happen every week for US only customers.

We all pay for consoles and get substandard hardware (ie RROD), Most people pay for Xbox Live and get a substandard service (No Netflix, no specials etc).
 
PC gaming seems to be different, the whole 'region' debacle isn't as prominant, everything is more widely available. In regards to PS3, PSN is free to use, and it don't seem to have as harsh region issues either.

Next time my 360 RROD's, It's going to take something special for me to buy another one. Maybe i should go back to the PC or buy a PS3? I may get value for money. Yes the console price is higher, there are some 360 only titles which i would miss, but at least then I wont have to pay for a substandard online service.

Does anyone else have the same opinion?

Posted by StaticFalconar

To add to your point.

When the last console gen ended think how long MS kept supporting the XBOX when the 360 came out?
Less than two months!!!!!!

Now compare that to how much Sony still supports the PS2 even with the PS3 out.
Two years and still going on.


Its shit like that why I choose PS3 over the 360 even though I agree XBL is better than PSN and all that crap.
Or if you don't like the PS3, then the PC. If you don't mind playing with the graphics lowered a bit, your PC can last longer than you think. (Also, never had a PC break down on me based on a game related incident.)

Posted by Rayfield

I heartily agree with you Psynapse. The money we have to fork out for what is essentially sub-standard versions of stuff the US takes for granted is extremely frustrating.

Edited by Psynapse

Yeah but at the end of the day whats going to change? Microsoft surely aren't going to turn around and go... 'Hang on a second, if we actually pay ATTENTION to our consumer base, then maybe we will sell more, or keep people happy'... Its funny, i used to swear by the 360...

Edit: Also StaticFalconar, they have also taken licensing fee's off the PS2 so developers can release games without getting Sony approval, cutting costs at the consumer end, can you imagin Microsoft doing that?? Yeah right.

Posted by StaticFalconar
Psynapse said:
"Yeah but at the end of the day whats going to change? Microsoft surely aren't going to turn around and go... 'Hang on a second, if we actually pay ATTENTION to our consumer base, then maybe we will sell more, or keep people happy'... Its funny, i used to swear by the 360...

Edit: Also StaticFalconar, they have also taken licensing fee's off the PS2 so developers can release games without getting Sony approval, cutting costs at the consumer end, can you imagin Microsoft doing that?? Yeah right."
Oh, so thats how PS2 games keeps getting released. Cause two years and running does seem excessive, but if there are no fees to release on PS2, I don't see why games will ever stop being released on it.
Posted by BestUsernameEver

Microsoft sucks, period. Especially now with the new dashboard.

Posted by Red

Man I'd hate to have a PAL Xbox.

With such crappy prices like that, just order stuff from Play-asia.
Posted by Rayfield

Oh, we do.

Posted by Psynapse
Red said:
"Man I'd hate to have a PAL Xbox.
With such crappy prices like that, just order stuff from Play-asia.
"
With the exchange rate at the moment its not worth it... Also taking into account the postage + handling. <-- i used to do this.

Now its easier to shop around and go to a store... Aussies, go to www.ecogamer.com for cheaper game prices.
Posted by Rayfield

Yeah JB Hifi's been pretty amazing recently.

I only order from overseas when something is banned/edited.