RockyRaccoon37's forum posts

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#2 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

I really like the McElroys, and love FMV games, but I cannot endorse anything Polygon does.

I'm at a difficult crossroads with this one.

Dammit.

You can't endorse coverage of video games?

You're missing out on some great content from some really talented people by writing off the entire website.

#3 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

@shagge said:

Justin McElroy is a hero among men.

Also, I wonder how deep down this rabbit hole he intends to go. Would, say, Myst or Riven count, despite only having a little bit of FMV?

Here's what Justin said in the comments:

"I think I’m gonna try to stick to games that were predominantly FMV, interactive movies. But I’ll probably branch out into others as it becomes necessary to feed my psychosis."

There's hope!

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#5 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

@rorie said:

@rockyraccoon37 said:

To be inclusive you need to allow for all kinds of respectful conversations to occur, even if some of those conversations bore, upset, or provoke you.

@giantlizardking You talk about how "too many other threads are derailed by discussion of diversity", but can you actually name any? I think you're misusing the term "derailed" here because if someone can make a conversation about diversity or representation or whatever within a conversation that wasn't initially about that specifically then it isn't necessarily derailing anything.

And, as to the last quote, "if someone can make a conversation about diversity or representation or whatever within a conversation that wasn't initially about that specifically," we would probably treat such comments as off-topic, dependent on what the original topic was.

Right, I'm not saying it fits for every topic but for a thread about what you thought of the new Mortal Kombat game, saying that the female character design is gross and off-putting would be a legitimate criticism to make even if everyone else is talking about the specific mechanics rather than representation.

Sorry, I should have elaborated a bit there.

#6 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

@julius said:

Having slept on these ideas, I see now that outright banning won't solve things. However, redirecting overly loud members to discuss things in dedicated forums/threads or PMs does seem like a good solution. Not that anyone here is on this horrible level, but you couldn't have r/mensrights and r/shitredditssays suddenly merge with r/starcraft and expect anyone to talk about how cool Maru's marine control is anymore.

There is ZERO reason for a political/social forum ghetto. Whether you like it or not video games are political. All art is. Everything we consume and how we consume it is political by nature.

Creating a separate forum for those kinds of discussions only ignores the reality of the situation.

There are many reasonable options available to you (and people who feel the same way) right now:

  1. A conversation in a thread is often individuals conversing with other individuals, you could easily avoid any conversation by speaking to those in that thread about what you want to speak about while ignoring any conversation that doesn't interest you. We do this all the time already in threads that have zero political discussion occurring.
  2. If something is legitimately off-topic you can flag it

What you're basically saying is, you just don't want to see this kind of conversation at all, and I guess to that I'd have to say too bad.

#7 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

I just want to say how happy I am to see that the vast majority of people are coming out against the OP's position and have done so in a way that is respectful and articulate. It wasn't that long ago that the majority would have echoed his sentiment. And so much of that goes back to the "It's a website, about video games!" video, which I guess is being misinterpreted as a serious manifesto as to what the website was designed to be. These guys are critical by nature, their job demands it, so why shouldn't the community be critical too?

To be inclusive you need to allow for all kinds of respectful conversations to occur, even if some of those conversations bore, upset, or provoke you.

@giantlizardking You talk about how "too many other threads are derailed by discussion of diversity", but can you actually name any? I think you're misusing the term "derailed" here because if someone can make a conversation about diversity or representation or whatever within a conversation that wasn't initially about that specifically then it isn't necessarily derailing anything.

#8 Edited by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

This is a new character, they didn't just turn Thor, son of Odin, into a woman. Great quote from Jason Aaron: “This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before.”

More details at The Mary Sue

And she looks badass:

#9 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (421 posts) -

I wasn't even aware that the Bombcast was talking about this situation, and yet somehow this thread is "not being respectful of the guests" Why, because many people here don't share their opinion?

Many people?

Far as I can tell this site get thousands, if not more, people visiting it on a regular basis. The dozen or so people in this thread with a stick up their ass are the same people who show up in every thread with a meaningful discussion about representation to say:

"It's not an issue"

"Fuck Polygon"

"Social justice...."

It's the same people every time regurgitating the same uncritical, insular nonsense every single time. You say many, and you may be right, but your voice is growing smaller and smaller as time goes on, and I couldn't be happier about it.

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@rockyraccoon37 said:

@watchdog_gamer: I think the better questions is why are you here?

Here as in Off-Topic or here as in the website? I love video games, podcasts, Quick Looks, etc. I was just interested in hearing from Let's Play and Twitch viewers why they are interested. Not hating at all, just legitimately interested in hearing why people like it.

Sorry was just being a little snarky. The appeal of Let's Play videos are similar to the appeal of watching the Giant Bomb guys, it's largely based on the personalities of the people playing the games.