It's just not doin' it for me...

First off, let me say one thing: I LOVE ME SOME ZOMBAES! I have always liked anything having to do with zombies, and played CoD:WaW's Nazi Zombie mode obsessively for a long while. I just think they're awesome. But, enough of that, no point in going on about something everyone knows to be true. Left 4 Dead 2: a game I should like. Everything about it screams enjoyment for a person like me. Tons of zombies, cool weapons, fun co-op. But... It just doesn't work for me... A lot of people say it's awesome, and it makes me want to go try it again (especially when they were talking about it on the recent Bombcast). And, every time I do, I'm disappointed. This isn't a rant on how L4D2 is the worst game in the world, but I am trying to figure out just why I can't enjoy it like most do. 
 
Let me get the mechanical issues I have with it, rather than my personal preferences, out of the way. There's no aim mode other than the, always on hip-fire mode. This makes shots less accurate, and I just think it would make it more satisfying when you do blow a zombie away with a well placed shot. Second, when you're being swarmed by zombies, even if they're only coming from one direction, you can't run away from them without knocking back or shooting all them first. What I always felt myself wanting to do, was run away from them, to then turn around and spray some bullets into the masses from a relatively long distance. And lastly, the specials. When you're doing pretty well on a mission, and you get to a section like when you have to fuel up the car to escape, then the game decides to throw 5 special infected at you, one after another, just as almost all the cans are done, it really sucks. You just escape from the charger's clutches, to be rammed by a tank instantly. It's just plain frustrating, and sometimes you don't have any chance to defend yourself. 
 
Onto the things that are keeping me, personally, from enjoying it. The shooting. I find myself comparing most of this game to Nazi Zombies, and while it is different, the shooting in NZ is just soooo nice. It feels like it packs a real punch, and the zombies react appropriately. In L4D2, it's just not the same. Seemingly random limbs will pop off of their bodies when you fire at them, and they don't get knocked back at all with some shots. It all just seems like it was the cheapest reaction they could come up with and decided to stick it in there. Each and every zombie in NZ has a weight to it when you blast it away. The ones in L4D just feel like they have no substance to them. Even the iPhone version of NZ feels more satisfying (if you completely ignore the controls). Also, the movement feels floaty. It has a momentum to it, albeit a small amount, that makes it seem imprecise. I just don't prefer that type of control over my character, especially in an FPS. One more thing, purely a personal preference. Fast zombies. I am all for it in a movie like 28 Days Later, but when I'm trying to shoot them, I want slow moving ones similar to in NZ. They're 1000x better. The speed has to level off somewhere at the speed of the fastest zombies in NZ to be perfect.
 
So, that's all I have for now, and I guess that sums up my problems with it. I liken it to my love for ketchup on almost everything, but absolute hate tomatoes in any other form. I WANT TO LIKE IT DAMMIT! I just don't understand how so many people like it so much. Let the disagreements/insults commence!    

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Edited by Sanryd

First off, let me say one thing: I LOVE ME SOME ZOMBAES! I have always liked anything having to do with zombies, and played CoD:WaW's Nazi Zombie mode obsessively for a long while. I just think they're awesome. But, enough of that, no point in going on about something everyone knows to be true. Left 4 Dead 2: a game I should like. Everything about it screams enjoyment for a person like me. Tons of zombies, cool weapons, fun co-op. But... It just doesn't work for me... A lot of people say it's awesome, and it makes me want to go try it again (especially when they were talking about it on the recent Bombcast). And, every time I do, I'm disappointed. This isn't a rant on how L4D2 is the worst game in the world, but I am trying to figure out just why I can't enjoy it like most do. 
 
Let me get the mechanical issues I have with it, rather than my personal preferences, out of the way. There's no aim mode other than the, always on hip-fire mode. This makes shots less accurate, and I just think it would make it more satisfying when you do blow a zombie away with a well placed shot. Second, when you're being swarmed by zombies, even if they're only coming from one direction, you can't run away from them without knocking back or shooting all them first. What I always felt myself wanting to do, was run away from them, to then turn around and spray some bullets into the masses from a relatively long distance. And lastly, the specials. When you're doing pretty well on a mission, and you get to a section like when you have to fuel up the car to escape, then the game decides to throw 5 special infected at you, one after another, just as almost all the cans are done, it really sucks. You just escape from the charger's clutches, to be rammed by a tank instantly. It's just plain frustrating, and sometimes you don't have any chance to defend yourself. 
 
Onto the things that are keeping me, personally, from enjoying it. The shooting. I find myself comparing most of this game to Nazi Zombies, and while it is different, the shooting in NZ is just soooo nice. It feels like it packs a real punch, and the zombies react appropriately. In L4D2, it's just not the same. Seemingly random limbs will pop off of their bodies when you fire at them, and they don't get knocked back at all with some shots. It all just seems like it was the cheapest reaction they could come up with and decided to stick it in there. Each and every zombie in NZ has a weight to it when you blast it away. The ones in L4D just feel like they have no substance to them. Even the iPhone version of NZ feels more satisfying (if you completely ignore the controls). Also, the movement feels floaty. It has a momentum to it, albeit a small amount, that makes it seem imprecise. I just don't prefer that type of control over my character, especially in an FPS. One more thing, purely a personal preference. Fast zombies. I am all for it in a movie like 28 Days Later, but when I'm trying to shoot them, I want slow moving ones similar to in NZ. They're 1000x better. The speed has to level off somewhere at the speed of the fastest zombies in NZ to be perfect.
 
So, that's all I have for now, and I guess that sums up my problems with it. I liken it to my love for ketchup on almost everything, but absolute hate tomatoes in any other form. I WANT TO LIKE IT DAMMIT! I just don't understand how so many people like it so much. Let the disagreements/insults commence!    

Edited by HitmanAgent47

It sounds like you have an aim issue and on pc I can aim at their heads and has no problem with the game. There are snipers that has scopes and it's running on a valve engine. Valve doesn't belive in using your sights like call of duty games.

Posted by Spiral_Stars

You need to play with friends too.

Posted by Bigandtasty

Yeah, the AI Director in L4D2 is sadistic, I'll give you that. It was a little too lenient in the first, and now it's too harsh.
 
I think aiming down sights is a bit much to expect when there are hundreds of zombies to be killed, especially when you are often running to shut down an alarm.
 
If common infected in this game were slow, then they'd really be no threat. They have to be fast to give you a sense of urgency, because they die easily to most primary and secondary weapons.
 
Overall, your problems with the game seem like personal preference more than anything, so it's a bit hard to get over it.

Edited by Sanryd
@Spiral_Stars: I do, but that is only part of the fun. 
 
@HitmanAgent47: Well, for the record, I was playing with a 360 controller so I could play split-screen with a friend, but that's not really the issue. I just like having sights on my guns in general. It just feels more accurate, like I'm spraying bullets everywhere when there aren't sights.
Posted by HitmanAgent47
@tdk08: Use sniper rifles more, they have sights. Still even if they had sights, will it help when your swarmed by 50 zombies? Your only aiming at one at a time and your going to get hit. You won't be able to move that quickly when the gun is in your way. Remember it's an updated counter strike engine, it's really old and if you played counter strike source, you would be able to accept it. Maybe just give it more time to get used to it then.
Posted by W0lfbl1tzers

I normally hate when people say this but "You're playing it wrong." That game is frenetic and aiming down the sights isn't going to help you much. If you really need to be accurate you can always crouch. It's not meant to be played like other games. I think you just want it to be Nazi Zombies in an era that isn't WWII.

Posted by Sanryd
@W0lfbl1tzers: Yeah, the sights thing is definitely lowest on the list. It's more of the lack of satisfaction when blowing the zombies away. That'd be the #1 thing on the list. The focus of why I don't enjoy it as much as I feel I should. This has been a "make or break" thing for me in the past, so I guess it just matters a whole lot more to me than it does to everyone else.