Since when were cheats DLC?

Okay so I know this is nothing new but it still bugs me just the same. While checking out the Playstation store I see a Tiger Woods 11 section, so I look and see that for a small fee you can unlock 11 courses, or some clothes, or some clubs, the game isn't even out in Europe till tomorrow. I know this isn't the first time EA have done this but it does seem to me to be just EA doing it, and doing it for all the big games. Christ I can remember when you had to have 3 thumbs and move the sticks while pushing buttons and singing songs just to unlock a stupid 'big head' mode but at least it was free, now you have to pay for it, I dread to think where this will all end.

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Posted by senote

Okay so I know this is nothing new but it still bugs me just the same. While checking out the Playstation store I see a Tiger Woods 11 section, so I look and see that for a small fee you can unlock 11 courses, or some clothes, or some clubs, the game isn't even out in Europe till tomorrow. I know this isn't the first time EA have done this but it does seem to me to be just EA doing it, and doing it for all the big games. Christ I can remember when you had to have 3 thumbs and move the sticks while pushing buttons and singing songs just to unlock a stupid 'big head' mode but at least it was free, now you have to pay for it, I dread to think where this will all end.

Posted by The_Laughing_Man

Dice is doing the same with BFBC2. You can buy all the items for a class. 

Posted by fwylo

I miss the days of cheat codes.

Posted by Scooper

They started charging for it when people started paying for it. Money talks. It's a horrible practice, selling cheats, but these are big businesses in big business suits and they look at a chart that says more $$$ and they like it.

Posted by senote

Yeah but at least Dice waited a few months, EA do it when the game hits the shelf

Posted by senote
@Scooper: Then I guess a better question is what the hell happened that made gamers want to buy this, what is wrong that we have to do this? is it us or is it the games?
Posted by Scooper
@senote said:
" @Scooper: Then I guess a better question is what the hell happened that made gamers want to buy this, what is wrong that we have to do this? is it us or is it the games? "
It's just that some people will buy anything. No one is not buying Tiger Woods just because it doesn't have free cheat codes so EA aren't loosing any money there, so if just 1% buy these cheats or hats which would normaly be free and unlockable then EA are making more money then they would otherwise.  Now I think it's more important to keep your customer base happy and reward them for buying your game by enriching the game they bought with all these things like unlockable outfits, hats, characters, swords, cheats, whatever it may be but hey, I'm not business man and those guys are just stone cold money makers getting paid to make the percentage of profits get higher.
 
Not all companies charge for this stuff, now. Valve have been great at giving really good updates to their games for free which has kept the community vibrant and their reputation in the clouds, not to mention alot of respect. I see alot more companies starting to charge for this sort of stuff in the next few years though, which is hugely unfortunate. If people want this stuff to go away they've got to be smart with what they buy and to resist buying things they think is a rip off. I am not buying the extra costumes for Super Street Fighter IV for instance because I don't think that it's worth it. Maybe I'll eventualy buy them though so hey ho. It's just something to get used to.
Posted by senote
@Scooper: Thats my other problem, the crap that gets released as DLC, for example the costume pack for Mass Effect, what a total load of crap, and this is where I take biggest issue, MS, because they allow this to happen.
Posted by Scooper
@senote: I know what ya mean. It sucks. It's quite sad that they'd rather get a couple bucks from a few people than make the experience better for everyone who bought your game for $60.
Posted by Zidd
@senote: Not everyone has the inclination to unlock all of that stuff. If you are playing less than say 10 hours a month it would take you forever to unlock all of that stuff. some would say that there is no reason to play the game since everything is unlocked but guess what? some people just want to play golf on their Xbox.
Posted by senote
@Scooper: I'd love to see a class action lawsuit taken against MS for allowing its customers to be exploited. I'd laugh for a week on that alone.
Posted by davidwitten22
@senote said:
" @Scooper: Thats my other problem, the crap that gets released as DLC, for example the costume pack for Mass Effect, what a total load of crap, and this is where I take biggest issue, MS, because they allow this to happen. "
Sony allows it too buddy. Unfortunately.
Posted by senote
@Zidd: While wearing blue flares and an affro wig? which may or may not be in the 'apparel' download lol 
 
@davidwitten22: Sadly yes, but it bugs me less with PSN store because its much better than XBL marketplace in terms of functionality.
Posted by Pie

I remember the first time this happened it was with Crackdown and the "Keys to the city" DLC. That was free however if I remember rightly

Posted by StaticFalconar
@senote: You still don't have to pay for it. All those unlocking of stuff would have been done naturally if you play the game and have 3 thumbs and such apparently. This is purely for those people that have no skill in these games but want to experience everything the game has without having to work for it. 
Posted by senote
@StaticFalconar: I don't mind it so much after say 2-4 weeks or more, but to do it on release day removes the need for people to even try to do it.
Posted by iam3green

 EA has been doing this for a while now. it is nothing new for them to do that. it is sad that they are removing cheats and are selling them instead. cheats codes have also kind of stopped for a while now, also.

Posted by senote
@iam3green: Whats funny is the old fashioned 'cheat code' has become a method of delivering supposed 'pre-order' or 'retailer exclusive' bonuses. I don't fall for that any more.
Posted by Make_Me_Mad

I don't mind them putting things like that up for money, but only when they include a way to unlock it within the game itself.  That way, if you really like the game, you can get it just by playing well enough or whatever, but if you just play every now and then and don't want to bother, then you can shell out a few bucks.

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Posted by adoggz

can I ask a question? When did the industry start removing cheat codes? It feels to me like they were already being removed before DLC was even a thing, but I might be wrong on that.

Posted by senote

Plenty of companies still put them in, the problem is plenty are taking them out, so they can sell them to you.

Posted by ZanzibarBreeze

I haven't experienced games including cheats for DLC (maybe I'm just not playing those games that are). Why cheat codes have been taken out is an interesting question. I'm really not sure. Compare GTA IV to the five PS2 GTA games, which have, like, an order of magnitude more cheat codes. Are the game engines too complicated these days? Like, would GTA IV just straight up crash if you pumped the "Armageddon" list of cheat codes from GTA:SA into it? I'm not sure; I'd think not, but I'm not a programmer.
 
I prefer cheat codes that act as an assist. I'm not really interesting in a big heads mode, but a cheat that gives you 25% of your health back in FPS games can be quite useful, because it's an optional use, and sometimes you just hit those hard spots where you can't get past.
 
The worst example of cheats I saw was this: in Resistance 2 single player mode cheats unlock when you unlock trophies; silver trophies to be precise. But most of the silver trophies are only unlockable in multiplayer. So, to unlock these cheats, you need to play multiplayer, and if you're a person like me that doesn't play multiplayer, this is impossible to do. What the hell is the point of making single player cheats only unlockable in multiplayer? Ask Insomniac, I guess.

Edited by spazmaster666

There are still plenty of ways to cheat though, even if there are no cheat codes explicitly coded into the game, including plenty of methods that don't involve you having to pay EA any sum of cash. ;) And EA isn't the only company that does this either. Another notable is Namco (i.e. Tales of Vesperia). In truth though, as much as this may suck, as others have said, it's completely optional and only designed for people who don't want to play the game normally. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to spend hours unlocking everything in a game.